From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info tutorial is out of date Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:06:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1153152531 15912 80.91.229.2 (17 Jul 2006 16:08:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 16:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 17 18:08:48 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2Vds-0003W5-EG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 18:08:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2Vdr-0007BJ-R3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:08:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2VcH-0006D4-Ha for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:06:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1G2VcG-0006CG-Pk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:06:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1G2VcG-0006Bz-CR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:06:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G2Vex-0000Of-JW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:09:27 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1G2VcF-0006fM-Ay; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:06:39 -0400 Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:57187 Archived-At: My point is this: first things first. If I don't understand what Info is all about, why would I go through the effort of learning and practicing its key bindings? Isn't it obvious to everyone what Info is all about? It's all about browsing documentation files. What's an Info file? Info is about finding information in a manual. The most important things to teach are the structure of the manual and how to find info in it. This We are failing to communicate, because this isn't "what Info is all about". What Info is all about is browsing documentation. What you're talking about here are details of how one does that.