From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tooltips and menus Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 22:18:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148437333 10917 80.91.229.2 (24 May 2006 02:22:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 02:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 24 04:22:12 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fij0g-0006qM-PB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 May 2006 04:22:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Fij0g-0006Iu-57 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 22:22:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FiixN-0004zC-Ec for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 22:18:41 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FiixM-0004yi-Ng for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 22:18:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiixM-0004yc-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 22:18:40 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fij1h-0006LC-Us for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 22:23:10 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1FiixL-0006WN-Sl; Tue, 23 May 2006 22:18:39 -0400 Original-To: "Drew Adams" In-reply-to: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55175 Archived-At: There should never be a tooltip for a submenu title - no need. Tooltips on menus should be on by default, but you should be able to turn them off (without turning off tooltips everywhere). I agree with those two suggestions. Would someone like to implement them, then ack? I don't think we should delete "uninteresting" tooltips because (1) the absence will look like a bug, and (2) turning off tooltip display for menu items that lead to submenus will solve most of the problem.