From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tooltips and menus Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 20:42:43 -0400 Message-ID: References: <874pzjkuap.fsf@mit.edu> <85wtce2ino.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1148345116 20782 80.91.229.2 (23 May 2006 00:45:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 00:45:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: cyd@mit.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 23 02:45:14 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiL1G-0008GV-OV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 May 2006 02:45:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiL1F-0007gc-Pn for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 20:45:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FiKz0-0006jY-6v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 20:42:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FiKyz-0006j1-AR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 20:42:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FiKyy-0006is-Ur for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 20:42:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FiL35-0000oj-6Y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 22 May 2006 20:46:59 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1FiKyx-0004x5-Es; Mon, 22 May 2006 20:42:43 -0400 Original-To: David Kastrup In-reply-to: <85wtce2ino.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Mon, 22 May 2006 17:17:31 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:55090 Archived-At: I am using Emacs with GTK (though I don't think the toolkit makes much of a difference) and I find the tooltips on menu entries not disruptive (they do a pretty good job at disappearing). I wonder whether this is a difference in opinions or a difference in the behavior of Emacs. (I don't use Emacs with GTK.) When you say "they do a pretty good job at disappearing", could you elaborate? When you put the mouse on Help > More Manuals, and the submenu appears, and then the tooltip appears, what action makes the tooltip disappear again?