* re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
@ 2006-04-25 19:40 Christian Plate
2006-04-26 6:56 ` martin rudalics
0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Christian Plate @ 2006-04-25 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello,
I encountered strange behavior with re-builder:
I made a testcase to show it. Consider the following buffer:
t-t-t-t
t-t-t-t
t-t-t-t
t-t-t-t
re-builder with the regex "\\(.\\)-\\(.\\)-\\(.\\)" correctly highlights
all first groupings. But if i make another group,
"\\(.\\)-\\(.\\)-\\(.\\)-\\(.\\)", it only highlights the first
match. Perhaps this has something to do with missing faces for more than
three groupings.
Christian Plate
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-25 19:40 re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings Christian Plate
@ 2006-04-26 6:56 ` martin rudalics
2006-04-27 4:36 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2006-04-26 6:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
> I encountered strange behavior with re-builder:
>
> I made a testcase to show it. Consider the following buffer:
>
> t-t-t-t
> t-t-t-t
> t-t-t-t
> t-t-t-t
>
> re-builder with the regex "\\(.\\)-\\(.\\)-\\(.\\)" correctly highlights
> all first groupings. But if i make another group,
> "\\(.\\)-\\(.\\)-\\(.\\)-\\(.\\)", it only highlights the first
> match. Perhaps this has something to do with missing faces for more than
> three groupings.
In fact you should have noted the message:
reb-update-overlays: Too many subexpressions - face `reb-match-4' not defined
You can add as many deffaces
(defface reb-match-4 ...
(defface reb-match-5 ...
...
you want to your .emacs.
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-26 6:56 ` martin rudalics
@ 2006-04-27 4:36 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-27 8:55 ` martin rudalics
2006-04-27 9:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2006-04-27 4:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: cplate, emacs-devel
You can add as many deffaces
(defface reb-match-4 ...
(defface reb-match-5 ...
Can we do something so that it cycles thru the provided faces
once it has used them all?
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-27 4:36 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2006-04-27 8:55 ` martin rudalics
2006-04-27 9:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2006-04-27 8:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: cplate, emacs-devel
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> You can add as many deffaces
>
> (defface reb-match-4 ...
>
> (defface reb-match-5 ...
>
> Can we do something so that it cycles thru the provided faces
> once it has used them all?
>
>
The attached patch tries to do that.
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2006-04-27 Martin Rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
* emacs-lisp/re-builder.el (reb-update-overlays):
Cycle thru provided faces once they have been used all.
*** re-builder.el Sat Nov 5 19:44:46 2005
--- re-builder.el Thu Apr 27 10:35:20 2006
***************
*** 112,118 ****
(if (not (fboundp 'make-overlay))
(require 'overlay))
! ;; User costomizable variables
(defgroup re-builder nil
"Options for the RE Builder."
:group 'lisp
--- 112,118 ----
(if (not (fboundp 'make-overlay))
(require 'overlay))
! ;; User customizable variables
(defgroup re-builder nil
"Options for the RE Builder."
:group 'lisp
***************
*** 627,637 ****
beg (match-end 0)))
i))
-
(defun reb-update-overlays (&optional subexp)
"Switch to `reb-target-buffer' and mark all matches of `reb-regexp'.
If SUBEXP is non-nil mark only the corresponding sub-expressions."
-
(let* ((re (reb-target-binding reb-regexp))
(subexps (reb-count-subexps re))
(matches 0)
--- 627,635 ----
***************
*** 645,668 ****
(or (not reb-auto-match-limit)
(< matches reb-auto-match-limit)))
(if (= 0 (length (match-string 0)))
! (error "Empty regular expression!"))
! (let ((i 0))
(setq matches (1+ matches))
(while (<= i subexps)
(if (and (or (not subexp) (= subexp i))
(match-beginning i))
(let ((overlay (make-overlay (match-beginning i)
(match-end i)))
! (face-name (format "reb-match-%d" i)))
! (if (not firstmatch)
! (setq firstmatch (match-data)))
(setq reb-overlays (cons overlay reb-overlays)
submatches (1+ submatches))
! (overlay-put
! overlay 'face
! (or (intern-soft face-name)
! (error "Too many subexpressions - face `%s' not defined"
! face-name )))
(overlay-put overlay 'priority i)))
(setq i (1+ i))))))
(let ((count (if subexp submatches matches)))
--- 643,677 ----
(or (not reb-auto-match-limit)
(< matches reb-auto-match-limit)))
(if (= 0 (length (match-string 0)))
! (error "Empty regular expression!"))
! (let ((i 0)
! suffix max-suffix)
(setq matches (1+ matches))
(while (<= i subexps)
(if (and (or (not subexp) (= subexp i))
(match-beginning i))
(let ((overlay (make-overlay (match-beginning i)
(match-end i)))
! ;; When we have exceeded the number of provided faces,
! ;; cycle thru them where `max-suffix' denotes the maximum
! ;; suffix for `reb-match-*' that has been defined and
! ;; `suffix' the suffix calculated for the current match.
! (face
! (cond
! (max-suffix
! (if (= suffix max-suffix)
! (setq suffix 1)
! (setq suffix (1+ suffix)))
! (intern-soft (format "reb-match-%d" suffix)))
! ((intern-soft (format "reb-match-%d" i)))
! ((setq max-suffix (1- i))
! (setq suffix 1)
! ;; `reb-match-1' must exist.
! 'reb-match-1))))
! (unless firstmatch (setq firstmatch (match-data)))
(setq reb-overlays (cons overlay reb-overlays)
submatches (1+ submatches))
! (overlay-put overlay 'face face)
(overlay-put overlay 'priority i)))
(setq i (1+ i))))))
(let ((count (if subexp submatches matches)))
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-27 4:36 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-27 8:55 ` martin rudalics
@ 2006-04-27 9:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-04-28 22:03 ` Adrian Aichner
2006-04-29 8:12 ` martin rudalics
1 sibling, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2006-04-27 9:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
On 4/27/06, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
> (defface reb-match-4 ...
>
> (defface reb-match-5 ...
> Can we do something so that it cycles thru the provided faces
> once it has used them all?
Wouldn't be easier just to define reb-match-[4-9]? Faces aren't
exactly a scarce resource, and nine is the maximum re-builder is going
to use anyway.
--
/L/e/k/t/u
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-27 9:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2006-04-28 22:03 ` Adrian Aichner
2006-04-28 23:23 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-04-29 19:09 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-29 8:12 ` martin rudalics
1 sibling, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Adrian Aichner @ 2006-04-28 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
"Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
> On 4/27/06, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> (defface reb-match-4 ...
>>
>> (defface reb-match-5 ...
>
>> Can we do something so that it cycles thru the provided faces
>> once it has used them all?
>
> Wouldn't be easier just to define reb-match-[4-9]? Faces aren't
> exactly a scarce resource, and nine is the maximum re-builder is going
> to use anyway.
That's what I have done for the XEmacs re-builder package.
--
Adrian Aichner
mailto:adrian@xemacs.org
http://www.xemacs.org/
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-28 22:03 ` Adrian Aichner
@ 2006-04-28 23:23 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-04-29 19:09 ` Richard Stallman
1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2006-04-28 23:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
On 4/29/06, Adrian Aichner <adrian@xemacs.org> wrote:
> That's what I have done for the XEmacs re-builder package.
I did it on my .emacs.el a long time ago. I use re-builder quite a
lot, and seems a bit silly to limit yourself to only three
subexpressions.
--
/L/e/k/t/u
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-27 9:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-04-28 22:03 ` Adrian Aichner
@ 2006-04-29 8:12 ` martin rudalics
2006-04-30 1:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-04-30 3:03 ` Richard Stallman
1 sibling, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: martin rudalics @ 2006-04-29 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: rms, emacs-devel
> Wouldn't be easier just to define reb-match-[4-9]? Faces aren't
> exactly a scarce resource, and nine is the maximum re-builder is going
> to use anyway.
The maximum of nine expressions applies only in "sub-expression mode".
In "normal" mode you would have to settle on an appropriate strategy
anyway when there are more than nine subexpressions. On the other hand,
in sub-expression mode one face is all you need - you could use say
(face-name (format "reb-match-%d" (if subexp 1 i)))
in `reb-update-overlays'.
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-28 22:03 ` Adrian Aichner
2006-04-28 23:23 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2006-04-29 19:09 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-29 20:36 ` Adrian Aichner
2006-04-30 1:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
1 sibling, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2006-04-29 19:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
> Wouldn't be easier just to define reb-match-[4-9]? Faces aren't
> exactly a scarce resource, and nine is the maximum re-builder is going
> to use anyway.
Why does it use no more than 9? Is that a natural limit
or an arbitrary limit?
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-29 19:09 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2006-04-29 20:36 ` Adrian Aichner
2006-04-30 1:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Adrian Aichner @ 2006-04-29 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel, Adrian Aichner
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:
> > Wouldn't be easier just to define reb-match-[4-9]? Faces aren't
> > exactly a scarce resource, and nine is the maximum re-builder is going
> > to use anyway.
>
> Why does it use no more than 9? Is that a natural limit
> or an arbitrary limit?
I think it's an arbitrary limitation, aside from the fact that
reb-subexp-mode uses single digit key mappings to highlight individual
sub-expressions.
--
Adrian Aichner
mailto:adrian@xemacs.org
http://www.xemacs.org/
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-29 19:09 ` Richard Stallman
2006-04-29 20:36 ` Adrian Aichner
@ 2006-04-30 1:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2006-04-30 1:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel, Adrian Aichner
On 4/29/06, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
> Why does it use no more than 9? Is that a natural limit
> or an arbitrary limit?
In re-builder's subexpression mode, the user can highlight the text
matched by each one of the first nine subexpressions by typing 1-9, or
0 to highlight the full matched string.
--
/L/e/k/t/u
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-29 8:12 ` martin rudalics
@ 2006-04-30 1:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-04-30 3:03 ` Richard Stallman
1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2006-04-30 1:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: rms, emacs-devel
On 4/29/06, martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> wrote:
> In "normal" mode you would have to settle on an appropriate strategy
> anyway when there are more than nine subexpressions.
Yes. By definition any limit is arbitrary. However, in my limited
experience, three subexpressions is way too little. It doesn't take a
very complex regexp to go over three subexps.
> On the other hand,
> in sub-expression mode one face is all you need - you could use say
>
> (face-name (format "reb-match-%d" (if subexp 1 i)))
>
> in `reb-update-overlays'.
I like using different faces in subexpression mode...
--
/L/e/k/t/u
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-29 8:12 ` martin rudalics
2006-04-30 1:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2006-04-30 3:03 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-01 15:21 ` Kevin Rodgers
1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2006-04-30 3:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: lekktu, emacs-devel
The maximum of nine expressions applies only in "sub-expression mode".
In "normal" mode you would have to settle on an appropriate strategy
anyway when there are more than nine subexpressions.
Ok, would people please install the face-cycling patch?
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-04-30 3:03 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2006-05-01 15:21 ` Kevin Rodgers
2006-05-02 2:04 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2006-05-01 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
Richard Stallman wrote:
> The maximum of nine expressions applies only in "sub-expression mode".
> In "normal" mode you would have to settle on an appropriate strategy
> anyway when there are more than nine subexpressions.
>
> Ok, would people please install the face-cycling patch?
And define reb-match-[4-9] as well, to avoid cycling when there are less
than 10 subexpressions.
--
Kevin Rodgers
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-05-01 15:21 ` Kevin Rodgers
@ 2006-05-02 2:04 ` Richard Stallman
2006-05-02 8:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2006-05-02 2:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
> Ok, would people please install the face-cycling patch?
And define reb-match-[4-9] as well, to avoid cycling when there are less
than 10 subexpressions.
I don't see why we need them. What is wrong with cycling in that case?
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-05-02 2:04 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2006-05-02 8:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-05-02 9:06 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-02 21:37 ` Richard Stallman
0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2006-05-02 8:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Kevin Rodgers, emacs-devel
On 5/2/06, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
> I don't see why we need them. What is wrong with cycling in that case?
Nothing, probably. But, what *is* wrong with adding the faces? (It'd
be useful to know wheter frequent users of re-builder are defining
them in their .emacs; certainly it's what I would expect.)
--
/L/e/k/t/u
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-05-02 8:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2006-05-02 9:06 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-02 9:30 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-05-02 21:37 ` Richard Stallman
1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: David Kastrup @ 2006-05-02 9:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Kevin Rodgers, rms, emacs-devel
"Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
> On 5/2/06, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> I don't see why we need them. What is wrong with cycling in that case?
>
> Nothing, probably. But, what *is* wrong with adding the faces?
A complete waste of code for no apparent good whatsoever.
> (It'd be useful to know wheter frequent users of re-builder are
> defining them in their .emacs; certainly it's what I would expect.)
So what? It is not like the cycling code would keep them from doing
that if they want to.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-05-02 9:06 ` David Kastrup
@ 2006-05-02 9:30 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-05-02 9:38 ` David Kastrup
0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2006-05-02 9:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Kevin Rodgers, rms, emacs-devel
On 5/2/06, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
> A complete waste of code for no apparent good whatsoever.
Then remove the definitions for faces reb-match-[1-3]. reb-match-0
should suffice. At the very least, reb-match-[2,3] are unnecessary,
from a zen-minimalistic POV.
Not to mention that "no apparent good whatsoever" is highly
subjective, isn't it? I have that very same feeling every time I look
at customize...
> So what? It is not like the cycling code would keep them from doing
> that if they want to.
No. But I think we could agree that there are at least three criteria
(perhaps more) to define something as a good default for Emacs:
- Defaulting to that something makes Emacs safer out-of-the-box
- Defaulting to that something is easier to understand for a newbie
- If not a default, most people interested in the feature will set
or define that something in their .emacs
I was hypothesizing about the third condition.
--
/L/e/k/t/u
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-05-02 9:30 ` Juanma Barranquero
@ 2006-05-02 9:38 ` David Kastrup
2006-05-02 10:17 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: David Kastrup @ 2006-05-02 9:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Kevin Rodgers, rms, emacs-devel
"Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
> On 5/2/06, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> A complete waste of code for no apparent good whatsoever.
>
> Then remove the definitions for faces reb-match-[1-3]. reb-match-0
> should suffice. At the very least, reb-match-[2,3] are unnecessary,
> from a zen-minimalistic POV.
The cycling patch was not reducing the number of distinct colors:
there never was a proposal to add more _distinct_ colors to the
standard scheme.
That's what "no apparent good whatsoever" is about: just defining more
faces in a cyclic fashion does not change the appearance in any way.
> Not to mention that "no apparent good whatsoever" is highly
> subjective, isn't it?
No, it isn't. If the colors are the same anyway, there is no point in
attaining that effect in a more verbose manner.
>> So what? It is not like the cycling code would keep them from doing
>> that if they want to.
>
> No. But I think we could agree that there are at least three criteria
> (perhaps more) to define something as a good default for Emacs:
>
> - Defaulting to that something makes Emacs safer out-of-the-box
> - Defaulting to that something is easier to understand for a newbie
> - If not a default, most people interested in the feature will set
> or define that something in their .emacs
>
> I was hypothesizing about the third condition.
So what? You have not given _any_ kind of rationale where this third
condition would in any way be affected. Users can define more colors
if they really want to.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-05-02 9:38 ` David Kastrup
@ 2006-05-02 10:17 ` Juanma Barranquero
0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Juanma Barranquero @ 2006-05-02 10:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-devel
On 5/2/06, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
> The cycling patch was not reducing the number of distinct colors:
> there never was a proposal to add more _distinct_ colors to the
> standard scheme.
>
> That's what "no apparent good whatsoever" is about: just defining more
> faces in a cyclic fashion does not change the appearance in any way.
And do you honestly think I was proposing to add more faces and not
make them distinct from the ones already existing?
> If the colors are the same anyway, there is no point in
> attaining that effect in a more verbose manner.
Sure. But to my eyes, it seems like you're fighting a strawman.
> So what? You have not given _any_ kind of rationale where this third
> condition would in any way be affected.
No. And I've not claimed to. I was just wondering. And from my wording
I think that was quite clear. Perhaps just not to you. I think that
tends to happen a lot every time you and I discuss something. Must be
some kind of failure to communicate on my part.
> Users can define more colors
> if they really want to.
Thanks for pointing that out, I would've never thought of it.
--
/L/e/k/t/u
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* Re: re-builder highlighting incorrect for more than 3 groupings
2006-05-02 8:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2006-05-02 9:06 ` David Kastrup
@ 2006-05-02 21:37 ` Richard Stallman
1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2006-05-02 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ihs_4664, emacs-devel
Nothing, probably. But, what *is* wrong with adding the faces? (It'd
It's only useful if they would be different (not the same as cycling).
We want the cycling code in either case--has someone installed it yet?
If not, please do.
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