From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: moving point and invisible text Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:42:42 -0500 Message-ID: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1140478210 2930 80.91.229.2 (20 Feb 2006 23:30:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 23:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 21 00:30:09 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBKTd-0006DN-Pb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Feb 2006 00:29:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBKHu-0006S2-N6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 18:17:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FBFzh-000442-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:42:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FBFzf-00042x-KI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:42:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FBFze-00042t-Tz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:42:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FBG5k-0006Ar-Dx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:49:00 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1FBFze-00032W-49; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 13:42:42 -0500 Original-To: monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:50826 Archived-At: It looks like the your code to move point out of invisible text is not behaving consistently. The previous invisible/intangible code, which your code replaced, worked consistently. Here is what martin rudalics said: Stefan then told me that The behavior depends on many things: whether the invisible text is replaced by ellipsis, whether the invisible property is front-sticky and/or rear-sticky, whether the command made changes to the buffer, ... > Further experimentation shows that this case works the way the > manual previously said: it allows position 5 but does not allow > position 17. Not really: It rarely ever moves "point forward past the first visible character that follows the invisible text", that is, position 18. (It does so only with `line-move-ignore-invisible' nil.) It needs to consistently allow one of the two possible point positions next to invisible text--either just before it, or just after it--and not allow the other. Would you please work on fixing this?