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From: "Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: cyd@stupidchicken.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 00:47:17 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1EpJIL-0006Vm-Ii@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200512212258.jBLMwt329838@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:58:55 -0600 (CST))

    But the user has some bad experiences with the new value and wants to
    get rid of it.  He chooses "Erase Customization" in a Custom buffer.

    _Now_ what is supposed to happen?  Do we restore the value set by foo
    or the "standard" value that would be in effect if there were no themes?

It should restore the value set by foo, because that's the only
consistent meaning.  It should get rid of "user" customizations,
but it cannot get rid of theme values.

    Loading a theme means installing a new set of defaults.  "Erase
    Customization" should restore the theme value.  If the user wants the
    no-themes default, he should set and save bar in a Custom buffer to
    the no-themes default, thereby making the no-theme default the user
    theme value which explicitly overrides any theme, present or future.
    That is the only way one can be consistent.

I agree.

In what way does the current behavior differ from that?

    I have the impression that the purpose of the:

    (custom-reset-variables
     '(bar nil))

    is to override foo's value and restore the no-themes default.

I'm not sure what that ought to do.  Looking at the doc string, it is
not clear that this case was intended to be used at all.

Thus, if it doesn't do anything useful, and it's not easy to make it
do anything useful, we could simply make it an error.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-22  5:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-21  2:54 Bug, probably related to Custom Themes Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 18:31 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-21 18:40   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 21:12     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-21 22:58       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22  5:47         ` Richard M. Stallman [this message]
2005-12-23  0:20           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23  4:04           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23  4:26           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23 18:12             ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-23 19:38               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23 20:22                 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-23 23:18               ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-23 23:21                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  1:50                 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-24  1:53                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  2:03                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  4:11                     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-24 16:33                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-02  1:49                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  2:35                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  4:05                     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-24 16:33                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-24 17:14                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24 21:18                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-25 19:06                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25 19:38                       ` Drew Adams
2005-12-26  6:22                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-26 18:43                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25 20:34                       ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-26 18:43                         ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-23  5:03           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 19:03   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 19:08   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-21 19:59   ` David Kastrup
2005-12-21 21:19 ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-21 22:19   ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22  3:50     ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-22  3:51       ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22  3:57         ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-22  5:14           ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22 17:51           ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-23  0:29             ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  2:36               ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-24  2:49                 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2005-12-24  4:19                   ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-24  4:55                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-24  7:04                       ` Chong Yidong
2005-12-25  2:52                     ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25 23:43                     ` Kim F. Storm
2005-12-25  2:51                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-12-25  3:24                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-02 15:03                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-02 15:38                         ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-02 20:26                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-02 22:11                           ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-03 16:25                           ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-03 19:07                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 17:58                             ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 19:03                               ` Giorgos Keramidas
2006-01-04 19:31                                 ` Reset buttons in Customize David Kastrup
2006-01-04 19:31                               ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 20:00                                 ` Reset buttons in Customize Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 20:16                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2006-01-04 20:45                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 20:51                                     ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 21:04                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 21:20                                         ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 21:20                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 21:28                                             ` Chong Yidong
2006-01-04 21:34                                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-05  1:50                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 20:25                               ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 21:27                                 ` Reset buttons in Customize Chong Yidong
2006-01-05  0:32                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-04 21:39                               ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Drew Adams
2006-01-05 16:35                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-05  1:35                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-05 15:50                               ` Reset buttons in Customize David Kastrup
2006-01-05 23:10                               ` Reset buttons in Customize (Was: Bug, probably related to Custom Themes.) Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-06  5:51                               ` Reset buttons in Customize Bill Wohler
2006-01-07 21:03                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-08  3:54                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-08  4:01                                   ` Bill Wohler
2006-01-08  4:05                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-08 10:19                                     ` David Kastrup
2006-01-09 11:24                                       ` Kim F. Storm
2006-01-08  4:24                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-09  0:52                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-09  4:26                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10  2:02                                       ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10  4:54                                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10  5:14                                           ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-11  0:49                                             ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-11  1:14                                               ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-11  3:27                                                 ` David Kastrup
2006-01-11  4:05                                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-11 15:18                                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-12  2:56                                                     ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-12 18:24                                                       ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-12 15:11                                                 ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-12 23:12                                                   ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10  5:23                                           ` Bill Wohler
2006-01-10 17:53                                             ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-10 18:23                                               ` Bill Wohler
2006-01-10 22:08                                                 ` Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-11 13:56                                                   ` Richard M. Stallman
2006-01-02 20:42                         ` Bug, probably related to Custom Themes Luc Teirlinck
2006-01-05  1:31                         ` Luc Teirlinck
2005-12-22  5:46   ` Richard M. Stallman

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