From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kenichi Handa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: FW: Emacs non-ascii characters Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:46:45 +0900 Message-ID: References: <43825633.5040403@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - "Ushinoya") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1132992210 27296 80.91.229.2 (26 Nov 2005 08:03:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jorussel@cisco.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com, jasonr@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 26 09:03:21 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Efv1D-00068C-Ai for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 09:02:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Efv1C-0000BK-5j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 03:02:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Efum3-0001FO-Ak for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 02:47:07 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Efuly-0001EM-SJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 02:47:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Efuly-0001EI-KE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 02:47:02 -0500 Original-Received: from [192.47.44.130] (helo=tsukuba.m17n.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_3DES_EDE_CBC_SHA:24) (Exim 4.34) id 1Efuls-0004ex-8y; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 02:46:56 -0500 Original-Received: from nfs.m17n.org (nfs.m17n.org [192.47.44.7]) by tsukuba.m17n.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id jAQ7klKD012052; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:46:47 +0900 Original-Received: from etlken (etlken.m17n.org [192.47.44.125]) by nfs.m17n.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Debian-3) with ESMTP id jAQ7kl4P019377; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:46:47 +0900 Original-Received: from handa by etlken with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Efulh-0000h9-00; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:46:45 +0900 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-reply-to: (rms@gnu.org) User-Agent: SEMI/1.14.3 (Ushinoya) FLIM/1.14.2 (Yagi-Nishiguchi) APEL/10.2 Emacs/22.0.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:46601 Archived-At: In article , "Richard M. Stallman" writes: > But if the > locale is "en_US", emacs starts with "Latin-1" lang. env. because > of this entry. > I don't understand why that was done, > since this comment is not very clear. > ;; Users who specify "en" explicitly typically want Latin-1, not ASCII. > ;; That's actually what the GNU locales define, modulo things like > ;; en_IN -- fx. I don't the wording "modulo things like en_IN". But, I think he wanted to indicate this data in /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED. en_US ISO-8859-1 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 en_IN UTF-8 It says that in en_US locale, the encoding iso-8859-1 is supported, but, in en_US.UTF-8 and en_IN, the encoding UTF-8 is supported. So, I think, in en_US locale, setting the default coding system to iso-8859-1 is the right thing. Currently, we do that by setting "Latin-1" lang. env. But that sets default-input-method to latin-1-prefix, thus C-\ automatically activates it. > but I also don't see why we would want to change it. By the change, emacs started under en_US locale is put in "English" lang. env. (thus default-input-method is not set) but the default conding systems are still set to iso-8859-1. --- Kenichi Handa handa@m17n.org