From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: macos.texi updated Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:16:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8C0A68AE-EF12-4D6C-9879-D0FF3B04DE1B@mac.com> <87r7bhw2o8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> <991DC775-381E-4B96-BBC6-B3701CCD6EAD@cogsci.ucsd.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1128881961 8136 80.91.229.2 (9 Oct 2005 18:19:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 18:19:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 09 20:19:19 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EOflU-0005J9-Bc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 20:19:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EOflT-0000N7-N5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:19:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EOfjE-0007mY-Pv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:16:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1EOfjE-0007mC-6y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:16:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EOfjD-0007m5-UT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:16:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EOfjE-0006tP-04 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:16:56 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1EOfjD-0006Lr-8Y; Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:16:55 -0400 Original-To: Adrian Robert In-reply-to: <991DC775-381E-4B96-BBC6-B3701CCD6EAD@cogsci.ucsd.edu> (message from Adrian Robert on Fri, 07 Oct 2005 10:53:22 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:43742 Archived-At: You're right.. But the population of "power users" in this case for whatever reason seems fairly large (just subjective impression), and the requirement to learn XLFD (to compose a fontset, or whatever else) and partake of the pleasures of asterisk-counting seems onerous. Is there a suitable font specification syntax in some other app that we could imitate? I don't think it is worth while for us to develop a new one, and if it were unique to Emacs, it probably would not be very useful. XLFD should be removed from non-window-system-specific code and replaced with a simple struct containing the same information. That is not a user interface proposal. That is a proposal for a simplification of internals of Emacs. Maybe that would be a simplification, maybe not. In either case, I would rather we NOT change this now. But it has nothing to do with the idea of presenting a different _syntax_ for specifying a font, so I think it is just a distraction from the issue we were talking about.