From: "Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Making fsync() optional
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:06:53 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1EFXuX-0004t1-0B@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mzmgsudo.fsf@pacem.orebokech.com> (message from Romain Francoise on Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:19:31 +0200)
In theory, yes. In practice, IDE drives use write caching and lie to
the kernel about the status of the data: even if fsync() returns the
data may not be on the platter. The drives do that to write data to
disk out of order, and to be able to delay writing blocks as long as
needed under heavy seek load. The only way to ensure immediate data
consistency is to disable write caching (on GNU/Linux, using the -W
option to hdparm) or to use SCSI disks.
Will the drive finish writing the blocks even if the computer crashes?
If so, this isn't a serious problem, because only a sudden power failure
would stop it. That simply does not happen on a laptop. It could
be a real problem on a desktop machine without UPS. It has been many
years since I had a desktop machine; are IDE disks commonly used on them?
It seems really dumb if there is no way for the CPU to tell the disk,
"Write these blocks now, and tell me when you're done."
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-09-14 14:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-12 19:27 Making fsync() optional Romain Francoise
2005-09-13 15:55 ` Richard M. Stallman
2005-09-13 18:19 ` Romain Francoise
2005-09-14 14:06 ` Richard M. Stallman [this message]
2005-09-15 8:45 ` Romain Francoise
2005-09-16 1:01 ` Richard M. Stallman
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