From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail
From: "Richard M. Stallman" <rms@gnu.org>
Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel
Subject: Re: make `occur' use word at point as default
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:35:51 -0400
Message-ID: <E1EATgt-0000Ix-Rn@fencepost.gnu.org>
References: <gdek8eteyi.fsf@tiscali.de> <E1E9fAl-0005BH-Hs@fencepost.gnu.org>
	<2gpsrwr6b6.fsf@tiscali.de> <m2hdd7y1ys.fsf@emptydomain.de>
Reply-To: rms@gnu.org
NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1125499265 3968 80.91.229.2 (31 Aug 2005 14:41:05 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:41:05 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 31 16:41:04 2005
Return-path: <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>
Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165])
	by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43)
	id 1EATj7-0004K5-JA
	for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:38:09 +0200
Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org)
	by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43)
	id 1EATnJ-00031Y-2v
	for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:42:29 -0400
Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43)
	id 1EATmP-0002xV-SP
	for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:41:34 -0400
Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43)
	id 1EATmO-0002wu-Nu
	for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:41:32 -0400
Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org)
	by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EATmO-0002wr-IW
	for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:41:32 -0400
Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org)
	by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1EATkM-0006aK-Q2
	for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:39:26 -0400
Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34)
	id 1EATgt-0000Ix-Rn; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:35:51 -0400
Original-To: kai@emptydomain.de (Kai =?iso-8859-15?Q?Gro=DFjohann?=)
In-reply-to: <m2hdd7y1ys.fsf@emptydomain.de> (kai@emptydomain.de)
X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel.gnu.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel>,
	<mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/emacs-devel>
List-Post: <mailto:emacs-devel@gnu.org>
List-Help: <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel>,
	<mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe>
Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org
Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org
Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:42525
Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/42525>

    > But the problem remains: too often I have to first mark a word or symbol,
    > copy the region, start a command (`grep', `occur', `query-replace',
    > whatever), paste it, press <enter>.  That's three keystrokes too many.

    How about making the thing at point be accessible via M-n?

By convention, M-n is supposed to insert _the default_.
I do not want to make exceptions to that.

We could conceivably make a second M-n insert another possible input
that one might want.  In effect, this would mean putting another
element at the "front" of the history list.  That could be a new
convention that could be generalized to other things.

Now is not the time to implement this, but I'm interested in hearing
if there are any objections to the idea.