From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Richard M. Stallman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: unnecessary fringe-indicators defcustom creates trouble Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:45:53 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200507290113.j6T1Drc18126@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200508010247.j712l3B02940@raven.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1122915544 32676 80.91.229.2 (1 Aug 2005 16:59:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 16:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 01 18:59:02 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dzdck-0004zI-GX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 18:58:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DzdfP-0003nw-93 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 13:01:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dzdcr-00036Z-JV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:58:53 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Dzdcj-00032x-CE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:58:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Dzdci-0002xD-KC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:58:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Dzdda-0001Hv-H1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:59:38 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1DzdQH-0008MD-M1; Mon, 01 Aug 2005 12:45:53 -0400 Original-To: Luc Teirlinck In-reply-to: <200508010247.j712l3B02940@raven.dms.auburn.edu> (message from Luc Teirlinck on Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:47:03 -0500 (CDT)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:41409 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:41409 The reason for this is to make it simple to request the usual options. I do not see why you need a separate variable for that. Why can one not use indicate-empty-lines and indicate-buffer-boundaries to do that? Because they are more complex. This is simple. It is meant for less experienced users. You would also need to change the Emacs manual If you tell me precisely where, I will do that. Another problem is that the first line of the indicate-empty-lines docstring is pretty self-explanatory. So somebody setting this through Custom may not click on MORE and see the warning about first setting fringe-indicators to `other'. To avoid small problem risks like that is probably impossible. It would not be worth making a major change because of this. Can you think of nay small change to avoid this risk?