From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: mouse-1-click-follows-link Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:46:10 -0400 Message-ID: References: <42AEC039.10207@gnu.org> <873brhtcin.fsf@jurta.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1119034844 493 80.91.229.2 (17 Jun 2005 19:00:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 19:00:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk, drew.adams@oracle.com, jasonr@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 17 21:00:41 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DjM4f-0007R3-Cp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 21:00:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DjMAJ-0002Jx-P0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DjM9o-0002GQ-2h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:05:36 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DjM97-000295-Nd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:05:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DjM96-0001y6-Uu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:04:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DjLtp-0001cx-1u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:49:05 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1DjLr0-0006BN-Bn; Fri, 17 Jun 2005 14:46:15 -0400 Original-To: Juri Linkov In-reply-to: <873brhtcin.fsf@jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:04:48 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:39036 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:39036 Underlining doesn't make text look like a link. There are faces with the underline attribute put on text which is not a link. It would be confusing for users to think that such text is a link and try to click it after learning a new Emacs convention of underlining all mouse-1 sensitive areas. That logic is backwards. Many links in Emacs are underlined, but a few are not. If we move towards underlining them, it will make things more consistent, not less so. Also underlining often produces visual clutter, especially in buffers with high link density like dired, grep and compilation buffers. I don't think so, but people can try my patch and tell me if they think so.