From: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@surf.glug.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 13:37:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1DGxz2-0003wE-00@surf.glug.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: message from Miles Bader on Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:40:05 +0900
From: Miles Bader <snogglethorpe@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 10:40:05 +0900
So what exactly is that patch supposed to do?
here is a suitable ChangeLog entry:
* startup.el (fancy-splash-text): For tutorial line, consult
language environment and display accordingly, in format:
TITLE, tab, EN-PREFIX*, LIST-OF-AVAILABLE-TUTORIALS.
(fancy-splash-insert): If arg is a thunk, call it for a string.
the asterisk after EN-PREFIX means that it may be omitted if there is no
need for it. (arguably there is no need for it in any case.)
I'm not sure it's a good idea to take the description `first sentence
in the tutorial' literally; a sentence may not be the best unit to
use, as something that sounds natural when inserted into the splash
page may look odd as a standalone first sentence in the tutorial.
in this context, i interpret sentence as "text followed by period".
something like "Emacs Tutorial." (with period), in which case TITLE is
taken to be "Emacs Tutorial" (without the period). thus, this is not a
"normal" sentence w/ verbs and other words. the current standalone
first sentence is normal but will need to be changed (w/ the help of
translators) from:
BLAH BLAH BLAH. ETC ETC
to the stylized:
TITLE. BLAH BLAH BLAH. ETC ETC.
translators are encouraged to reduce awkwardness (w/ the advent of
TITLE) in the BLAH part, perhaps by reworking or eliminating it
entirely.
It seem better to do as I suggested earlier, and structure it more as
a `title' in the actual tutorial file (that is, simply the words
"Emacs Tutorial" or equivalent, on a line by themselves, possibly
centered on the first line, followed by a blank line).
this is the same as rms' design, except that TITLE is delimited by first
newline instead of first period. initially, i thought newline delim was
better since it could be added simply (w/o changing current text) and,
just as simply, be removed upon presentation. however, i suppose that
violates the "one source for data" principle, so i can see value in
using period delim and reworking the BLAH part.
thi
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2005-03-31 11:37 Thien-Thi Nguyen [this message]
2005-03-31 12:05 ` Possible change to startup.el Miles Bader
2005-03-31 13:32 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-31 14:29 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-31 16:15 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-31 22:23 ` Miles Bader
2005-04-01 4:10 ` Richard Stallman
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2005-04-03 10:31 Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-04-07 6:55 ` Juri Linkov
2005-04-08 3:22 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-08 6:31 ` Marcelo Toledo
2005-04-08 7:27 ` Kenichi Handa
2005-04-08 18:32 ` Juri Linkov
2005-04-08 18:43 ` Marcelo Toledo
2005-04-10 1:54 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-08 10:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-08 18:32 ` Juri Linkov
2005-04-09 8:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-13 23:58 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-14 4:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-14 9:46 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-15 8:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-04-14 19:03 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-14 23:40 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-17 1:49 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-17 9:31 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-17 19:20 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-17 19:51 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-10 1:54 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-31 12:01 Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-31 12:59 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-03-31 13:43 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-31 22:19 ` Kim F. Storm
2005-04-01 4:10 ` Richard Stallman
2005-04-01 4:03 ` Juri Linkov
2005-04-03 5:20 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-30 22:47 Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-30 23:38 ` David Kastrup
2005-04-01 4:11 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-31 1:40 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-31 1:02 ` Marcelo Toledo
2005-03-31 3:20 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-31 2:21 ` Marcelo Toledo
2005-03-31 6:59 ` Juri Linkov
2005-04-01 4:11 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-25 18:07 Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-27 3:52 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-27 23:15 ` Juri Linkov
2005-03-28 22:53 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-29 20:19 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-30 4:08 ` Marcelo Toledo
2005-03-30 9:42 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-24 10:49 Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-24 19:05 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-25 6:43 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-21 18:44 David Kastrup
2005-03-21 20:50 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-21 21:10 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-21 21:25 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-21 22:14 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-22 0:03 ` Andreas Schwab
2005-03-22 1:38 ` David Hansen
2005-03-23 18:25 ` James Cloos
2005-03-27 3:53 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-22 4:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-22 6:24 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-22 8:15 ` Kenichi Handa
2005-03-22 8:27 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-22 10:40 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-22 12:44 ` Jason Rumney
2005-03-22 20:31 ` Werner LEMBERG
2005-03-22 11:23 ` Kenichi Handa
2005-03-22 12:33 ` Juri Linkov
2005-03-22 19:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-22 10:18 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-22 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-22 22:24 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-22 20:44 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-22 22:32 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2005-03-23 6:21 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-23 13:55 ` Juri Linkov
2005-03-23 18:01 ` Werner LEMBERG
2005-03-25 12:51 ` Kenichi Handa
2005-03-23 20:25 ` Richard Stallman
2005-03-22 13:57 ` Richard Stallman
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