From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thien-Thi Nguyen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Possible change to startup.el Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:07:10 +0100 Message-ID: Reply-To: ttn@glug.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111774286 3253 80.91.229.2 (25 Mar 2005 18:11:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 18:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 25 19:11:25 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEtH1-0001ln-4y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:11:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEtWY-0008Rf-2h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:27:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DEtTt-0007Vf-JM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:24:25 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DEtTh-0007Og-Cl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:24:17 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DEtTe-0007NQ-Dc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:24:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [151.37.242.165] (helo=surf.glug.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DEt80-00008R-3F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 13:01:48 -0500 Original-Received: from ttn by surf.glug.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DEtDC-0002Nx-00; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 19:07:10 +0100 Original-To: Miles Bader In-reply-to: message from Miles Bader on Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:05:30 +0900 Original-References: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35160 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35160 From: Miles Bader Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:05:30 +0900 I'm confused as to why you don't like (a)... i empathize w/ the authors of the tutorials who may not wish to change their text. there are enough rules and regulations in the world (especially when you translate your thoughts into software) that i am inclined to favor approaches that extend the methods for collecting and accessing metadata (i.e., learning to be more descriptive) more than approaches that involve forcing conformity, especially when it comes to codified thought other than that which must be understood by the stupid computer. whether or not the required change is a big deal in practice is another matter entirely. as is anything "in practice". perhaps i'm weird (ok, i know i'm weird), but i would not wish to put creative energy into a Work and then be told post-facto that the effort must be redone due to limitations in the audience. i feel such a request shows disrespect. thi