From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joe Corneli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:22:36 -0600 Message-ID: References: <20050321125324.45006.qmail@web26604.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111419327 8552 80.91.229.2 (21 Mar 2005 15:35:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:35:27 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 21 16:35:27 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDOn5-0007YU-0P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:26:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDP4C-0004yX-7Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:43:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DDP3T-0004k9-3x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:42:59 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DDP3M-0004h3-GP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:42:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DDP3M-0004f6-3k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:42:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [146.6.139.124] (helo=dell3.ma.utexas.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DDOjl-0002ir-Pd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 10:22:38 -0500 Original-Received: from lab40.ma.utexas.edu (mail@lab40.ma.utexas.edu [128.83.133.142]) by dell3.ma.utexas.edu (8.11.0.Beta3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id j2LFMbC24065; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:22:37 -0600 Original-Received: from jcorneli by lab40.ma.utexas.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DDOjk-00014E-00; Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:22:36 -0600 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-reply-to: <20050321125324.45006.qmail@web26604.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> (message from nfreimann on Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:53:24 +0100 (CET)) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:25074 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:25074 > Another extreme possibility would be to use > html2text or 'lynx -dump' > (or something similar) as one's primary "browser" Joe, we aren't living in the 80ths anymore! Sadly, I'm not entirely sure about that. Michael Jackson is a big celeb. again, who'd have thunk it? A seamless web browser feature for previewing the content of a HTML document, like Editplus does using OLE and Internet Explorer, is what we really need in the third Millenia, and not redirecting the output of inferior text mode browsers into an emacs frame. Why not have both? I hacked together a totally excellent text browser redirection program last night[*], now its your turn. Actually, there is already something like this for previewing javascript[**], so I'd assume that there is also something for previewing HTML out on the market too. [*] watch for this on gnu-emacs-sources [**] see thread http://mozdev.org/pipermail/conkeror/2004-November/000006.html