From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customize buttons that change user's custom fileshouldaskforconfirmation Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:32:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: <00e301c509c1$9c761690$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> <018201c5132c$d1cd7940$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1108547399 7175 80.91.229.2 (16 Feb 2005 09:49:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 09:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: abraham@dina.kvl.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, storm@cua.dk, snogglethorpe@gmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com, miles@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 16 10:49:58 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D1Lod-0001Ub-DK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:49:52 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D1M4Y-0005cn-0e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 05:06:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D1Lvc-0003Rj-QT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:57:05 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1D1LvV-0003QD-TZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:57:00 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D1LvR-0003LF-8R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:56:53 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1D1Lbh-0001Rz-B7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:36:29 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1D1LXU-0001pi-2N; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 04:32:08 -0500 Original-To: "Lennart Borgman" In-reply-to: <018201c5132c$d1cd7940$0200a8c0@sedrcw11488> (lennart.borgman.073@student.lu.se) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:33534 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:33534 > One possible solution for that is to discourage, or even get rid of, > of the per-variable command button. If there is only the whole-buffer > Set and the whole-buffer Save, this confusion won't happen. I do not think that is a good solution because the customization buffer might be a result of a search. I don't understand "result of a search" or how that relates to the issue. Could you please spell out your agrument? > ISTR that I have seen apps where there is no difference between the > field value and the active value within the customization tool, but > all the changes require confirmation when you exit the customization > tool. It is an unusual behaviour I think. Maybe it is because it is tedious? It was not tedious at all. To confirm when exiting is no more work than giving the "Save" command. > In addition to Activate, there would be Cancel and Standard Values. > And perhaps What's Changed, which says what would change if you use > Activate right now. I miss the Set button. IMO opinion the names you propose makes it a bit more difficult to have a Set button. Eliminating that distinction is part of the idea I'm considering now.