From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Getting more info on a variable in Customize buffers Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:54:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1104868993 25636 80.91.229.6 (4 Jan 2005 20:03:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:03:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 04 21:03:04 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ClutU-0003XA-00 for ; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:03:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Clv4h-0001Eu-Kd for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:14:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Clv4R-0001E8-B2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:14:23 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1Clv4Q-0001DS-0o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:14:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1Clv4P-0001D7-Rl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:14:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Cluro-0005l2-Fo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 15:01:20 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1ClulT-0004f2-Vm; Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:54:48 -0500 Original-To: Stefan In-reply-to: (message from Stefan on Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:13:26 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:31838 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:31838 (defvar foo-map (let ((map (make-sparse-keymap))) (define-key map X1 Y1) (define-key map X2 Y2) (define-key map X3 Y3) (substitute-key-definition X4 Y4 map global-map) map)) so I suggested (defkeymap foo-map '((X1 Y1) (X2 Y2) (X3 Y3) (X4 Y4))) with some additional options like :inherit and :suppress. What it does w.r.t Custom can then be adjusted as you please and improved over time. defkeymap appears to be just an abbreviation. You could argue for it as an abbreviation, but I don't see how it would have any effect on what we can or can't easily do with Customize. How would replacing the defvar with defkeymap affect Custom's handling of this?