From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joe Corneli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Question on Mule and Makor2, font display vs char input? Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:10:41 -0600 Message-ID: References: <87u0r754pw.fsf@access4less.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1101924695 4525 80.91.229.6 (1 Dec 2004 18:11:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2004 18:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 01 19:11:21 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CZYwi-0003u9-00 for ; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 19:11:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CZZ6B-0000tH-5d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:21:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CZZ62-0000t4-Cy for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:20:58 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CZZ61-0000sd-Mi for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:20:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CZZ61-0000sC-AO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:20:57 -0500 Original-Received: from [146.6.139.124] (helo=dell3.ma.utexas.edu) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CZYw6-0002mo-El for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 13:10:42 -0500 Original-Received: from linux183.ma.utexas.edu (mail@linux183.ma.utexas.edu [146.6.139.172]) by dell3.ma.utexas.edu (8.11.0.Beta3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id iB1IAf806867; Wed, 1 Dec 2004 12:10:41 -0600 Original-Received: from jcorneli by linux183.ma.utexas.edu with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1CZYw5-00027R-00; Wed, 01 Dec 2004 12:10:41 -0600 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Wed, 01 Dec 2004 17:39:10 GMT) X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by dell3.ma.utexas.edu id iB1IAf806867 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:22476 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:22476 > I think the way the encoding issue is supposed to be solved here is > for the file not to be utf-8, but instead just plain-text-unix, and UTF-8 *is* plain text. What I meant is that the file would contain "\lambda" whereas the buffer would appear to contain a single lambda character (does this look right on your screen? "=CE=BB"). > the buffer was made to look like it was in utf-8. If I understand > X-Symbol right, Hebrew characters would be handled the same way as > math characters are handled by X-Symbol... This part of my reply was unrelated to X-Symbol. X-Symbol is not an answer for Hebrew text. It appeared to me that the X-Symbol-like setup we were talking about would accomplish exactly what the OP & me are after. > There's X-Symbol which does just that (tho in a different way). > But I ran into trouble trying to build X-Symbol; it seems to have be= en > written with XEmacs in mind. It was originally written for XEmacs. It's been ported to Emacs, tho. Maybe you should try and figure out why you couldn't get it to work. I didn't say I couldn't get it to work, just that I had trouble getting it to build ;). I didn't actually try to make it work. Perhaps I tried to build some unneeded files that haven't been ported. The README does say that the build process for Emacs should be improved, and I'd agree. > So it occured to me that maybe there was a relatively straightforwar= d way > to do the same thing using Quail. Maybe it can be done easly, but AFAIK nobody's done it. Well, it would be easy enough to do if there was a function to simulate a keypress/keysequence. One way could be to write a function that builds a throw-away keyboard macro based on a string, for example, I assume that would work & that I could figure out how to do it - but I had expected that there would be a standard way to simulate a keypress. (Maybe keyboard macros are the standard way.)