From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: not too happy with Emacs 21 vertical-line dragging when scrollbars present Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:44:07 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097336720 3344 80.91.229.6 (9 Oct 2004 15:45:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2004 15:45:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 09 17:45:14 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CGJPF-0002Yt-00 for ; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 17:45:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CGJW6-0007sX-DV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:52:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CGJVH-0007P8-65 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:51:27 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CGJVE-0007Mt-N2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:51:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CGJVE-0007Me-J2 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:51:24 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CGJOC-0000In-9R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:44:08 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CGJOB-0000kj-AW; Sat, 09 Oct 2004 11:44:07 -0400 Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) In-reply-to: (storm@cua.dk) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:28130 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:28130 My response was that it is just as easy to grab the thin line (between modelines) in 21.x as it was to grab the square in 20.x Yes, after seeing what you were telling me, I agree with you. I would prefer the "thin line on the side of the scrollbar" (all the way up). That is common in many applications. Hopefully, it wouldn't be _too_ difficult to grab, and it would have the big advantage of being where you If we make it artificially easy to grab, as has been done for the line between mode lines, it would interfere with scrolling using the scroll bar.