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From: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs 27.1 released
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2020 21:07:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1CA79CA-6C2D-475F-848A-D55FCAFC9988@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837du3oh2w.fsf@gnu.org>

12 aug. 2020 kl. 20.27 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:

> It has a potential of affecting a lot of code and customizations,
> since 'kbd' is used so widely.

I don't see how, but am not going to press the matter further.

>>>> 8ef84632c2 Accept lexical lambda in auto-insert-alist
>>> 
>>> I don't think this is important enough, but you could try convincing
>>> me by telling more details, including when this was introduced.
>> 
>> The code is old and assumes that a list not starting with 'lambda' cannot be a function. That ceased to be true when lexical binding was introduced; it was a test failure on master that alerted us to it. Fixing this obvious flaw just seemed natural and risk-free. It's nothing I'd fight for, in any case.
> 
> How easily would people bump into this in real-life use cases?  I
> think the answer to that will tell how important is it to fix it in
> Emacs 27.

We have no idea. Most bugs are never reported; people blame themselves and try a different approach, or just blame Emacs in general. That's why it's important to fix bugs we find even absent any concrete evidence that it has affected anyone else.

>>>> 60cd6cce55 Calc: GCD(0,x)=GCD(x,0)=|x|, not x (bug#41279)
>>> 
>>> I'm uneasy with this, as it would indirectly affect many functions.
>> 
>> Which many functions did you have in mind?
> 
> Its callers inside Calc.  Suppose there's some subtle issue with the
> change, or some unintended consequence.

Mind being more specific? I could certainly have overlooked something, but am not helped by these vague allegations in the slightest.

>  OTOH, how probable is it to have a negative x here?

The post-hoc probability is 1 because a user was affected by and reported the bug, but that's not the point: the erroneous simplification GCD(x, 0) -> x leads to trouble later on, as the report shows.




  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-12 19:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-10 23:00 Emacs 27.1 released Nicolas Petton
2020-08-10 23:52 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-12  2:24   ` Richard Stallman
2020-08-12 14:05     ` Noam Postavsky
2020-08-24 14:25   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-08-24 14:30     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-08-24 14:56       ` Drew Adams
2020-08-11  0:50 ` Mingde (Matthew) Zeng
2020-08-11  2:59 ` 황병희
2020-08-11  4:24 ` Jay Sulzberger
2020-08-11  8:19 ` Ulrich Mueller
2020-08-11 18:25   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-12  8:09     ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-12 13:48       ` Phil Sainty
2020-08-12 14:21       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-12 16:20         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-08-12 16:33           ` Robert Pluim
2020-08-12 16:47           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-12 18:01             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-08-12 18:27               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-12 19:07                 ` Mattias Engdegård [this message]
2020-08-12 19:21                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-13 19:50                     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-08-14  6:02                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-14 12:51                         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-08-14 13:28                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-16  8:19                             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-08-13 14:34         ` Michael Albinus
2020-08-12 12:01 ` phillip.lord
2020-08-15 17:49   ` Emacs 27.1 Windows Binaries -- testing wanted phillip.lord
2020-08-15 17:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-08-15 18:38     ` Stephen Leake
2020-08-15 19:57     ` Alan Third
2020-08-17  4:44     ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2020-08-17  5:40     ` 范凯
2020-08-17 23:24     ` Emacs " Tak Kunihiro

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