From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customize interface: The use of "boxed" buttons Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:31:33 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1086532328 21372 80.91.224.253 (6 Jun 2004 14:32:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 14:32:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 06 16:32:04 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BWygu-0006jK-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:32:04 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BWygt-0003Dc-00 for ; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 16:32:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BWyhO-00076r-A2 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:32:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BWyh0-0006xX-8A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:32:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BWygy-0006x1-S5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:32:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BWygy-0006tO-KC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:32:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BWygP-0004kE-UQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:31:34 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BWygP-0005Z0-Ab; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 10:31:33 -0400 Original-To: Per Abrahamsen In-reply-to: (message from Per Abrahamsen on Sat, 05 Jun 2004 16:12:41 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:24605 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:24605 3) The use of "raised" and "pressed" display does not seem to correspond to any standardised look and feel I know of. How would you suggest implementing a look for pressed and unpressed buttons? My suggestion is therefore that we "go back" to use a textual representation for buttons (and other stuff) in Customize. I consider that too drastic--but fixing these specific problems (when we're sure what would be an improvement) would be useful.