From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [gnu.org #194297] Re: Emacs-devel list IS slow Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:37:01 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87hdtwsocu.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <874qpvgfpd.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1086197927 26373 80.91.224.253 (2 Jun 2004 17:38:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 02 19:38:35 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BVZhD-0006VC-00 for ; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 19:38:35 +0200 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BVZhD-00060u-00 for ; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 19:38:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BVZhU-0002D9-V1 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:38:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BVZgU-0001ZX-Tb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:37:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BVZgU-0001Yl-2f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:37:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BVZgT-0001Ya-SX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:37:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BVZfh-0008Un-P5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:37:01 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.34) id 1BVZfh-0006VV-7S; Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:37:01 -0400 Original-To: Juri Linkov In-reply-to: <874qpvgfpd.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (message from Juri Linkov on Tue, 01 Jun 2004 23:57:29 +0300) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:24414 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:24414 > | Emacs: The Sacred Editor > | Category: Computers > Open Source > Software > Editors > Emacs This is another flaw in Google categorization: Emacs is placed under Open Source category. Of all the problems, this one hurts us the worst--but they have surely done this intentionally, so it is unlikely that they would change it for us. It makes no sense to ask them to make a separate "free software" category. It is clearly right to have just one category containing GNU Emacs, Apache, and Linux; splitting it in two would be unhelpful for the users. What we would want them to do is to label this one category with "free software" as well as "open source". I suppose they will say that is too long. So people will keep coming to the GNU Project and our software, thinking that we agree with the open source movement. We therefore must continue to find frequent opportunities to say "Open source? We disagree completely with open source!" And as they recognize that part of what they were told is untrue, we can explain about free software.