From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: VC-SVN problem Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 06:38:06 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20040508013158.GB7312@fornax.collapsar.net> <878yg4yppi.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1084099484 5289 80.91.224.253 (9 May 2004 10:44:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 10:44:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mdxi@collapsar.net, monnier@cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun May 09 12:44:38 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BMlnS-0005GF-00 for ; Sun, 09 May 2004 12:44:38 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BMlnS-000681-00 for ; Sun, 09 May 2004 12:44:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BMlmB-0007Bq-Eu for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 06:43:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BMlho-0005X2-HX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 06:38:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1BMlhE-0005Pa-6h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 06:38:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1BMlhD-0005PN-Aw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 09 May 2004 06:38:11 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.33) id 1BMlh8-0000Ew-MY; Sun, 09 May 2004 06:38:07 -0400 Original-To: kfogel@red-bean.com In-reply-to: <878yg4yppi.fsf@floss.red-bean.com> (message from Karl Fogel on 07 May 2004 14:58:17 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:22972 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:22972 Stefan, would you rather require 'cl', or just rewrite 'vc-svn-checkin' to not use 'list*'? Packages in Emacs are not supposed to require cl at run time. Users can have their own definitions for the function names that CL defines, and they won't want CL to be loaded.