From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Could the new gud changes move to a branch? Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:35:06 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1081651234 28784 80.91.224.253 (11 Apr 2004 02:40:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 02:40:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 11 04:40:30 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BCUta-0003Do-00 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 04:40:30 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BCUta-0007pf-00 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2004 04:40:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BCUtT-0001uM-Da for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:40:23 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BCUp2-0007hC-Ey for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:35:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1BCUoN-0007Gp-Km for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:35:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BCUoM-0007Fl-Qs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:35:06 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1BCUoM-0006uK-7a; Sat, 10 Apr 2004 22:35:06 -0400 Original-To: John Wiegley In-reply-to: (message from John Wiegley on Fri, 09 Apr 2004 00:14:25 -0700) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:21460 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:21460 Anyway, it has felt very complicated, and I used to be such a fan of debugging with gdb under Emacs. So could we go back to the old, simple way until things settle down and the new code is better tested by the author? Certainly not. That would be giving up on it, not the way to make progress in getting it to work better! Perhaps we can add an option or options to turn off some of the new features, those that take the most time to start up.