From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: [jidanni@jidanni.org: parts of modeline live in spacious suburbs, others can't even pay rent] Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:15:28 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1076779192 10402 80.91.224.253 (14 Feb 2004 17:19:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:19:52 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 14 18:19:44 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1As3SC-0000oo-00 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2004 18:19:44 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1As3SC-000327-00 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2004 18:19:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1As3S0-0007zU-P0 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:19:32 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1As3RR-0007ws-Ey for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:18:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1As3Qu-0007d0-QF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:18:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1As3Qu-0007cv-Jl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:18:24 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1As3O4-0007b4-1h; Sat, 14 Feb 2004 12:15:28 -0500 Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:19938 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:19938 He seems to be suggesting that we leave the parent file name out of the mode line, or truncate it. ------- Start of forwarded message ------- To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Dan Jacobson Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:04:46 +0800 Subject: parts of modeline live in spacious suburbs, others can't even pay rent Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+rms=gnu.org@gnu.org Gentlemen, let's examine the modeline on my already 95 column wide terminal. - --B-:%%-F1 fetch-script-wget-jidanni.org (fetch-script-wget-jidanni.org.zip) (Shell-script[ Certainly you notice the big gap between the parenthesized items, and at the same time there are things truncated. Try it yourself, hit v v on a .zip file in dired. But this exposes a larger problem, a systemic problem perhaps: Some parts of the modeline are basking in the leisure space only found in the most affluent of suburbs, whilst other parts are being shoved off the 3rd world cliff of destitution. The modeline needs to operate as a whole, a continuum, a gestalt... I prescribe a dose of fill-paragraph, with the JUSTIFY argument, on it before airing it in public... _______________________________________________ Bug-gnu-emacs mailing list Bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/bug-gnu-emacs ------- End of forwarded message -------