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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: jas@extundo.com, jan.h.d@swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: sendmail.el bug or expected behavior?
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 13:49:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E1AlYHa-0005ku-GY@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16405.6371.146753.920453@chiark.greenend.org.uk> (message from Ian Jackson on Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:40:51 +0000)

    Currently there are large numbers of places where Emacs sometimes
    loses mail !

If the mail gets lost, it is the mailer that loses it.
That is not Emacs's fault.
Emacs uses -oem -odb by default (when mail-interactive is nil)
and that says to start another process to deliver the mail.
-oem says to send the user mail to report any failure.
If the mailer obeys those options, you won't lose mail
without a failure report.

Some seem to be suggesting that when mail-interactive is nil, Emacs
could use -oem -odb, but even so wait for sendmail to terminate.  I
think that is what we used to do; but Emacs often had to wait for a
substantial time, and I found that intolerable.  Perhaps nowadays
the wait will be smaller and acceptable.  So people might want to
try this change and see if it is fast enough.

*** sendmail.el.~1.274.~	Sat Jan  3 09:10:43 2004
--- sendmail.el	Tue Jan 27 13:04:02 2004
***************
*** 820,826 ****
    (require 'mail-utils)
    (let ((errbuf (if mail-interactive
  		    (generate-new-buffer " sendmail errors")
! 		  0))
  	(tembuf (generate-new-buffer " sendmail temp"))
  	(multibyte enable-multibyte-characters)
  	(case-fold-search nil)
--- 820,826 ----
    (require 'mail-utils)
    (let ((errbuf (if mail-interactive
  		    (generate-new-buffer " sendmail errors")
! 		  nil0))
  	(tembuf (generate-new-buffer " sendmail temp"))
  	(multibyte enable-multibyte-characters)
  	(case-fold-search nil)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-01-27 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-20  6:14 sendmail.el bug or expected behavior? Rob Browning
2004-01-20 11:53 ` Simon Josefsson
2004-01-21  9:21 ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-21 18:28   ` Kevin Rodgers
2004-01-21 22:33   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-01-22 19:00     ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-22 19:09       ` Simon Josefsson
2004-01-23 12:29         ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-23 15:13           ` Jan D.
2004-01-26 11:20             ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-26 13:28               ` Jan D.
2004-01-26 13:40                 ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-26 13:50                   ` Jan D.
2004-01-26 14:10                     ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-26 14:25                       ` Jan D.
2004-01-26 14:29                         ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-26 14:35                           ` Jan D.
2004-01-26 14:42                             ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-27 18:49                   ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2004-01-27 21:03                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-01-29 17:52                       ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-25 14:46           ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-23 18:25         ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-23 18:33           ` Eli Zaretskii
2004-01-23 18:38           ` Simon Josefsson
2004-01-26 14:09             ` Ian Jackson
2004-01-26 16:21               ` Simon Josefsson
2004-01-26 18:22                 ` Stefan Monnier
2004-01-26 19:26                   ` Simon Josefsson
2004-01-26 20:47                     ` Stefan Monnier
2004-01-27 18:50                 ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-30  4:27 ` Rob Browning
2004-01-30 14:45   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-01-30 14:46   ` Stefan Monnier
2004-01-30 14:46     ` David Kastrup
2004-01-30 16:14       ` Stefan Monnier
2004-01-31  7:51   ` Richard Stallman
2004-01-31 17:26     ` Rob Browning

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