From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: terminal escapes in Info files? Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:07:38 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200310281746.h9SHk2915693@f7.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067561932 4378 80.91.224.253 (31 Oct 2003 00:58:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 00:58:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, dirt@gtk.org, karl@freefriends.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 31 01:58:49 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AFNcn-0007F3-00 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 01:58:49 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AFNcn-00010K-00 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2003 01:58:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AFNY6-0000cG-Ar for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:53:58 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AFNXz-0000ao-Uz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:53:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AFNOV-0003pv-W4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:44:35 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AFMua-0002Zw-BI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:13:08 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AFMpG-0000Kq-Va; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:07:38 -0500 Original-To: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Eli Zaretskii on 30 Oct 2003 08:11:10 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17626 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17626 > If we combine this idea with the idea of using an ESC character before > each <...> sequence, perhaps the result could be such that we can make > the info reader handle old info files correctly also. I doubt that. Currently, unless invoked with the -R switch, the standalone reader converts ESC into the ASCII string "^[", but doesn't remove anything else. So you will see "^[<...>" for each such sequence. We are not talking about the same question. What I said is that we *could* make the info reader which handles the new version of the format continue to handle old info files correctly. Your example seems to concern new info files and old info readers. It is impossible for the new info format, whatever it is, to work in old info readers with no change to them.