From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: windows-1251 language environment Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:02:34 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200310032356.54476.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <200310060013.52049.pogonyshev@gmx.net> <200310070254.LAA11795@etlken.m17n.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1067238627 31535 80.91.224.253 (27 Oct 2003 07:10:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2003 07:10:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@m17n.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA, jasonr@f2s.com, pogonyshev@gmx.net Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 27 08:10:24 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AE1WC-00085U-00 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:10:24 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AE1WC-0003F7-00 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 08:10:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AE1Vr-00016R-Kb for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:10:03 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AE1UH-0008Dr-Ae for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:08:25 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AE1Tf-0007LK-QR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:08:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AE1Tf-0007Hi-42 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:07:47 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1AE1Oc-0007Ps-QR; Mon, 27 Oct 2003 02:02:34 -0500 Original-To: Dave Love In-reply-to: (message from Dave Love on Sat, 25 Oct 2003 17:10:28 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17451 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17451 The trouble with `language' environments is that they have little to do with the language per se. If you're not going by system defaults (locales), I think you want to provide orthogonal customization of language, codeset, and other features. If you lump them all together, you'll have probably four for each Western European language: latin-1, latin-9, windows-1252 and utf-8. that wd be tru if thatwere the one and only way to spec all of them. but we already have other ways in emacs.