From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changing the no-toolkit scrollbar thumb color. (minor issue) Date: Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:24:27 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87fzijz4th.fsf@raven.i.defaultvalue.org> <200309262123.h8QLNNi07638@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309272155.h8RLttv09524@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309281642.h8SGgxc11119@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309281801.h8SI1gV11332@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <200309300011.h8U0B6021222@raven.dms.auburn.edu> <3F7F1343.2020208@swipnet.se> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065324519 13348 80.91.224.253 (5 Oct 2003 03:28:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2003 03:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, teirllm@dms.auburn.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 05 05:28:37 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A5zZV-0006b5-00 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 05:28:37 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A5zZU-0000Qz-00 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2003 05:28:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5zYA-0002Ld-JP for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:27:14 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A5zY4-0002LU-4w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:27:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A5zXW-0001hB-1D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:27:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A5zXV-0001fq-57 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:26:33 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1A5zVT-0008Ng-2t; Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:24:27 -0400 Original-To: "Jan D." In-reply-to: <3F7F1343.2020208@swipnet.se> (jan.h.d@swipnet.se) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16938 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16938 > Only one of the four I did not try out myself, but Bob tried it and > found that it had no effect whatsoever. things do not seem easy, > however. > > That's a bug. Yes, but where? That depends on details I don't know. Maybe we should go the "official" GTK way and tell people to use themes for cuatomizations? I don't think so. Emacs customization mechanisms ought to work if they can. > Those are four colors to customize. If we want full customizability > through Custom, we would have to allow the user to specify four > colors. > > Maybe we want two or three faces to specify all these colors. What sould those faces mean in other toolkits? Nothing, I guess. That is ok. This still will not change the fact that pixmap based themes may not use these colours. Yes, but I don't see that as a problem.