From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: current CVS bootstrap broken? Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:54:49 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <3F79B75E.6070101@gnu.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065043286 21024 80.91.224.253 (1 Oct 2003 21:21:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 21:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: sds@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 01 23:21:23 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A4oPS-0004eU-00 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:21:22 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A4oPS-0003pz-00 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:21:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A4nKM-0004sM-7l for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 16:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A4kGk-00039i-01 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:56:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1A4kDw-0002jY-RC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 12:53:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A4iOv-0007pR-JR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:56:25 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.24) id 1A4iNN-0008DU-Fl; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 10:54:49 -0400 Original-To: Jason Rumney In-reply-to: <3F79B75E.6070101@gnu.org> (message from Jason Rumney on Tue, 30 Sep 2003 18:03:26 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:16831 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:16831 I noticed quite a few non-interactive functions and defvars have had autoload cookies added lately. I can see the point of autoload cookies for interactive functions, and maybe some defcustoms, but I am not sure of the value of bloating loaddefs.el by autoloading non-interactive functions. We make non-interactive functions autoloadable to make it easy to call them. We make variables preloaded so that programs can set them more easily. I had some problems with bootstrapping and parse-time-string last night, which I didn't have time to debug fully, but I think it might be caused by the removal of a require for parse-time and addition of an autoload cookie instead. If that is the case, I suspect that the code is setting some variable in the file parse-time.