From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.bidi Subject: Re: merge emacs-bidi into the main tree Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:08:07 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20030811163200.38193.qmail@web14916.mail.yahoo.com> <200308130033.JAA25184@etlken.m17n.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1060830868 21324 80.91.224.253 (14 Aug 2003 03:14:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 03:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, developer@arabeyes.org, shaikli@yahoo.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 14 05:14:26 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19n8ZG-0003w0-00 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 05:14:26 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19n8Zd-00029M-00 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 05:14:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19n8Xf-0007ke-Ky for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:12:47 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19n8W6-0007d1-Pi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:11:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19n8VS-0006pT-1i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:11:01 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.164] (helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19n8Uu-0006K4-IF; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:09:56 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19n8T9-00031X-S0; Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:08:07 -0400 Original-To: Kenichi Handa In-reply-to: <200308130033.JAA25184@etlken.m17n.org> (message from Kenichi Handa on Wed, 13 Aug 2003 09:33:19 +0900 (JST)) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15937 gmane.emacs.bidi:152 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15937 > It sounds like there are three different bidi efforts for Emacs: the > emacs-bidi, the m17n, and Eli Z's code (not ready yet). Is that > correct? No. The emacs-bidi and the m17n are the same thing. As emacs-bidi is now distributed at www.m17n.org, it is referred as "the m17n". So it sounds like some people are saying that the emacs-bidi code is usable as it stands and is worth installing, and nobody thinks it is useless. Meanwhile, it looks like you are ready to make use of Eli's code in the short term. If we can use Eli's code soon enough, then it's not worth installing the Emacs-bidi code; it would just be extra work. On the other hand, if it looks like the difficulty of using Eli's code is enough to make it hard, then I think we should install the Emacs-bidi code now.