From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Info-scroll-prefer-subnodes default in Emacs. Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:30:50 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200306251343.h5PDhm805324@f7.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1056605777 19343 80.91.224.249 (26 Jun 2003 05:36:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 05:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 26 07:36:13 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19VPQb-00051b-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:36:13 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19VPUy-0006V7-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 07:40:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19VPNx-000095-IJ for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:33:29 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19VPLt-0007Jv-0a for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:31:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19VPLg-00071n-Dc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:31:09 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19VPLV-0006fY-BJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:30:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19VPLO-0004C2-6Q; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:30:50 -0400 Original-To: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) In-reply-to: <200306251343.h5PDhm805324@f7.net> (karl@freefriends.org) Original-cc: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15267 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15267 One way is to have two kinds of menus, one that represents the document's structure and one that doesn't. The index could say `* Index:' instead of `* Menu:'. It would work the same in m but differently in SPC. Karl, what do you think? That sounds like a very clean idea to me, except ... that new info files then won't be compatible with old Info readers. We've gone to great lengths to avoid such incompatibilities in the past. My idea along these lines was not as elegant, but it retains compatibility: have makeinfo output a magic cookie (say ^H^[index^H^], for the sake of argument, similar to the new cookie we use for images) at the beginning of an index. That seems like a good idea.