From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: yet another todo editing system Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:59:58 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <16098.1698.415992.223606@nick.uklinux.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055693854 26852 80.91.224.249 (15 Jun 2003 16:17:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 15 18:17:29 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19RaC9-0006yS-00 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:17:29 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19RaZ8-0006qB-00 for ; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:41:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19RaAu-0005Hg-Ba for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 12:16:12 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Ra2B-0001qy-7S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 12:07:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19RZvI-0000Fn-AE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 12:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19RZvC-000073-OT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:59:58 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19RZvC-0003WW-IH; Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:59:58 -0400 Original-To: Joe Corneli In-reply-to: (message from Joe Corneli on Mon, 09 Jun 2003 05:05:02 -0500) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:15112 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:15112 * Unlike outline-mode, Todo only displays one "level" of text at a time. If I want to write an outline of a paper in Todo, the top page would be a list of links to the sections. You could customize Outline mode to do to operate in this way, I think. * Todo can be used to "mark up" text. This is currently done by giving each list entry a one-letter tag. An example of the source for a Todo list is: Math <> Physics <> Outline mode has nothing like this feature, but it seems to me that you could use a macro processor to achieve this and use Outline mode to do the editing. o By exporting all the lists in a "path" (as in, math_hw*), you can build hypertext outlines. I don't understand what that means in concrete terms. So I cannot tell whether it would be easy or hard to make Outline mode do this too. * Unlike Emacs Wiki or Hyperbole, Todo provides a highly structured text editing/viewing environment. What does that mean? (I have never used Wiki.) > Unlike Emacs Wiki or Hyperbole, Todo provides a highly structured text > editing/viewing environment. Everything you see is is a list or an > "atom"; an atom is either a simple string or a link. Unlike with these > packages, in Todo links do not appear automatically. (At least not > currently!) I.e. forward links do not appear automatically; backwards links as discussed in my eariler email to Kai do appear automatically. I am not sure what "forward links" and "backward links" mean in this context. Outline mode does not have anything to do with links. It might turn out to be useful for editing code, since you could easily see which functions use the current function -- though of course you can do that with plain ol' grep too. A feature for browsing programs certainly ought to be part of Emacs.