From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Divergence in menu appearance between Emacs Info and standalone Info Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:07:46 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200306041404.h54E4SO30552@f7.net> <5x8ysg6p4r.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200306052323.h55NNr4B002965@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1055034398 29787 80.91.224.249 (8 Jun 2003 01:06:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 01:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 08 03:06:35 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Oodn-0007kI-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2003 03:06:35 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Oox5-00053P-00 for ; Sun, 08 Jun 2003 03:26:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Oofo-0001g8-Em for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:08:40 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19OofJ-0001HT-IZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:08:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Oof0-0000Wc-W0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:07:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19Ooew-0000Fn-PG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19Ooew-0004HW-1d; Sat, 07 Jun 2003 21:07:46 -0400 Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com In-reply-to: (bob@rattlesnake.com) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14896 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14896 Because node names tell you where a file is located. Sometimes a file on on someone else's local area network, and your connection to it is slow or non-existant. That is not normal for Info files that are distributed. Normally every crossreference in Info goes to a file on your own machine. So what is significant here is not a distinction between same-manual and other-manual cross references. Rather, it is simply that following an Info reference never requires downloading a file. I am not sure of the best way to teach people about that, but I don't see how showing node names would do it.