From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Divergence in menu appearance between Emacs Info and standalone Info Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2003 06:57:53 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200306041404.h54E4SO30552@f7.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1054814181 16661 80.91.224.249 (5 Jun 2003 11:56:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 05 13:56:18 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19NtLl-0004JY-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 13:56:09 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Ntdn-0008DP-00 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 14:14:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19NtBu-0005FZ-Qv for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 07:45:58 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Nt6c-0003JJ-1z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 07:40:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.20) id 19Nt0q-0001PT-0k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 07:34:33 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19NsRP-0003PE-65 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 06:57:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.20) id 19NsRN-0002Hq-6t; Thu, 05 Jun 2003 06:57:53 -0400 Original-To: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) In-reply-to: <200306041404.h54E4SO30552@f7.net> (karl@freefriends.org) Original-cc: bob@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:14753 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:14753 In the example at hand, * Foo: A Node about Foo: ... the user will select `Foo', but then end up at `A Node about Foo', with no real way of making the connection between them. Actually I don't think the user would be very surprised if he followed a link named "foo" and ended up in a node named "A Node about Foo". They are clearly about the same topic. I gather the default is to hide the node names. Because of the problems above, I suggest making the default to show them, i.e., the traditional behavior. Since experienced people won't be bothered by the node names, this is tantamount to taking out the feature of hiding them. I would rather make standalone Info hide them too. So please do ask the other developers. However, I think it would be ok to simply say in info.texi, `Emacs Info does it this way, and standalone Info does it that way'. That is fine when both descriptions are short, but in this case the differences are in numerous places in the node. It may look very ugly to describe both alternatives. Could you try?