From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: skeleton.el _ versus @, a new patch Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 21:50:28 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200303242005.h2OK57gr013285@rum.cs.yale.edu> <1048554010.20622.66.camel@zircon> <200303311740.h2VHeZNG017518@rum.cs.yale.edu> <1049242082.66437.15.camel@zircon> <200304020020.h320K4de023432@rum.cs.yale.edu> <1049245381.66437.33.camel@zircon> <20030403084549.2a5aca76.occitan@esperanto.org> <200304091626.h39GQlwc000430@rum.cs.yale.edu> <1050020736.419.11.camel@zircon> <200304112359.h3BNxpw5012335@rum.cs.yale.edu> <1050879051.74664.17.camel@zircon><1050975058.74664.30.camel@zircon> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1051149371 3091 80.91.224.249 (24 Apr 2003 01:56:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 01:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 24 03:56:09 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 198Vy5-0000nj-00 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 03:56:09 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 198W46-00045c-00 for ; Thu, 24 Apr 2003 04:02:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 198Vx8-0001Dp-05 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 21:55:10 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 198Vuj-0000OL-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 21:52:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 198VuT-0000IW-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 21:52:26 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 198Vsa-0007kX-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 21:50:28 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 198Vsa-0000lJ-00; Wed, 23 Apr 2003 21:50:28 -0400 Original-To: Joe Kelsey In-reply-to: <1050975058.74664.30.camel@zircon> (message from Joe Kelsey on 21 Apr 2003 18:30:58 -0700) Original-cc: dapfy@t-online.de Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13411 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13411 The behavior I propose adds a new character whose only purpose is to provide an alternate method to set skeleton-point without interacting with regions at all. Therefore, the proposal I have made will set skeleton-point to the first occurrence of either - or _ while preserving the original semantics of both @ and _ otherwise. It seems logical. Are there skeletons that use - that might break with this change? (Is it meaningful to use - in a skeleton now? Is that an error?)