From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:58:56 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> <3E8345E8.4090509@swipnet.se> <1048872463.17161.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1049134327.3326.74.camel@localhost.localdomain> <84of3p2m44.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <200304021352.h32DqLO11793@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <1049729721.4045.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1049813819.27194.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1049853776 30059 80.91.224.249 (9 Apr 2003 02:02:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 02:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 09 04:02:53 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1934vN-0007oV-00 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 04:02:53 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 1934zd-0004gZ-00 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2003 04:07:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 1934tf-00083d-03 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 22:01:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 1934sK-0007N9-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:59:44 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 1934sB-00071f-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:59:38 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 1934rZ-0005zF-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:58:57 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 1934rY-00052w-00; Tue, 08 Apr 2003 21:58:56 -0400 Original-To: Owen Taylor In-reply-to: <1049813819.27194.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> (message from Owen Taylor on 08 Apr 2003 10:56:59 -0400) Original-cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se Original-cc: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net Original-cc: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13056 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13056 The problem I see with a minimum size is that the technique of shrinking the thumb to represent overscrolling won't work if the scrollbar thumb is already at its minimum size. That depends on how it is implemented. The minimum size should apply to the "whole thumb", which includes the part that is virtually beyond the end of the trough.