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From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: handa@m17n.org
Subject: Re: setenv -> locale-coding-system cannot handle ASCII?!
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:59:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E18pv9d-0004nD-00@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030227000638.GA5470@gnu.org> (message from Miles Bader on Wed, 26 Feb 2003 19:06:38 -0500)

      It seems to me that `efficiency' should _never_ be a
    reason to use a unibyte buffer, because the emacs primitives should take care
    of it automatically -- that is, a buffer/string's should have an associated
    `unibyte encoding' attribute, which would allow it to be encoded using the
    straightforward and efficient `unibyte representation' but appear to
    lisp/whoweve as being a multibyte buffer/string (all of who's characters
    happen to have the same charset).

This is more or less what a unibyte buffer is now, except that there
is only one possibility for which character sets can be stored in it:
it holds the character codes from 0 to 0377.

If we wanted to hide from the user the distinction between unibyte and
multibyte buffers, we would have to change the buffer's representation
automatically when inserting characters that don't fit unibyte.  That
seems like a bad idea.

The advantage of unibyte mode for some European Latin-N users is that
they don't have to deal with encoding and decoding, so they never have
to specify a coding system.  It is possible that today we could get
the same results using multibyte buffers and forcing use of a specific
Latin-N coding system.  People could try experimenting with this and
seeing if it provides results that are just like what European users
now get with unibyte mode.

As for the idea that efficiency should never be a factor in deciding
what to do here, I am skeptical of that.

  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-03 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-02-25  0:18 setenv -> locale-coding-system cannot handle ASCII?! Sam Steingold
2003-02-25  6:34 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-25  6:47   ` Miles Bader
2003-02-26  0:58     ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26  2:11       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26  2:34         ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26  2:52           ` Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26  5:32             ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26  5:50               ` Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26  7:49                 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26  8:05                   ` Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26  8:08                     ` Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26  8:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26  8:38                     ` tar-mode Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26  8:53                       ` tar-mode Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26 11:53                         ` tar-mode Kenichi Handa
2003-02-26 12:22                           ` tar-mode Stefan Monnier
2003-02-26 23:26                   ` setenv -> locale-coding-system cannot handle ASCII?! Richard Stallman
2003-02-26 23:26                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-26 23:26                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-26 23:26               ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-27  0:06                 ` Miles Bader
2003-03-03 18:59                   ` Richard Stallman [this message]
2003-03-04  2:48                     ` Miles Bader
2003-03-04  4:33                       ` Kenichi Handa
2003-03-05 20:46                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-02-26 23:25       ` Richard Stallman

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