From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: environment variable don't get coding conversion Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 03:00:09 -0500 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200301170613.PAA12807@etlken.m17n.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1043308904 26992 80.91.224.249 (23 Jan 2003 08:01:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 08:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@m17n.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18bcIx-000719-00 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:01:43 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18bcL6-00046u-00 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 09:03:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18bcK7-00072z-00 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 03:02:55 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18bcJh-0006wD-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 03:02:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18bcJZ-0006o9-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 03:02:23 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18bcHS-0005et-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 03:00:10 -0500 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 18bcHR-0007cG-00; Thu, 23 Jan 2003 03:00:09 -0500 Original-To: Dave Love In-reply-to: (message from Dave Love on 21 Jan 2003 18:18:48 +0000) Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:10993 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:10993 (It seems to me that the basic problem is that the environment string is exposed to Lisp, presumably because it predates multilingual issues, and really shouldn't be. I think accessing it directly should be deprecated.) The general idea of Emacs is to expose data structure to the Lisp program whenever possible. I see no reason to go against that here.