From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please consider emacs-unicode for pervasive changes Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 12:14:48 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200208090754.g797s6s11972@rum.cs.yale.edu> <200208130030.JAA26246@etlken.m17n.org> <200209030615.PAA10378@etlken.m17n.org> <200209090057.JAA19467@etlken.m17n.org> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033921243 24589 127.0.0.1 (6 Oct 2002 16:20:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 16:20:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: handa@m17n.org, raeburn@raeburn.org, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17yE93-0006OK-00 for ; Sun, 06 Oct 2002 18:20:41 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17yEvi-00019A-00 for ; Sun, 06 Oct 2002 19:10:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17yE6O-0005KH-00; Sun, 06 Oct 2002 12:17:56 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17yE48-0000tP-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Oct 2002 12:15:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17yE3j-0008Va-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Oct 2002 12:15:14 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17yE3Q-0007Y9-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Oct 2002 12:14:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 17yE3M-0008JI-00; Sun, 06 Oct 2002 12:14:48 -0400 Original-To: d.love@dl.ac.uk In-reply-to: (message from Dave Love on 04 Oct 2002 23:22:40 +0100) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8428 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8428 > > Would you please explain why we can't get rid of those charsets even > > after we have unified them into Unicode? > > Because people want to use them. > > You are being very terse. It is conceivable that you have a valid point, > but your words don't present it clearly and therefore I am not convinced. I don't see what more I can say. What other reason is there for adding charsets than users want or need them? Use them how? For what purposes? If I don't understand what use they have, I cannot think about the question. I don't know why I should have to convince you anyway. No reason it has to be you, but I am trying to understand the situation and you could help. If you don't trust me to know roughly what I'm doing, please find someone else to do the Mule donkey work. If you object to the whole design, then I don't see what's basically wrong with it, and it's too late to change it now. I'm not ready to object to it, or support it--first I need to know what it *is*.