From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Program-specified positions ignored? Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:33:19 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200210032003.g93K3Xd8025573@stubby.bodenonline.com> <200210041601.g94G1dD06938@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033836137 11993 127.0.0.1 (5 Oct 2002 16:42:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 16:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se, jhd@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xs0N-00037G-00 for ; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 18:42:15 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17xsmY-0007tl-00 for ; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 19:32:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xrxd-0000T0-00; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:39:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xrva-0003WS-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:37:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17xrut-0001oM-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:36:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xrrj-0001D2-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:33:19 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 17xrrj-0002Z9-00; Sat, 05 Oct 2002 12:33:19 -0400 Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu In-reply-to: <200210041601.g94G1dD06938@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8411 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8411 > A comment on the problem that started this, should not Emacs consider > positions and sizes specified in .emacs as user specified? > > There are arguments both ways, but I think the better choice is > not to do so. Why is that ? Because "user specified" positions means positions specified for a single session by the user. Defaults specified in configuration files are not "user specified". Every call to `make-frame' can use a different set of size/position parameters, so it is clearly more specific than Xresource settings. That is true but I don't think it relates to the question. If you call `make-frame', your arguments can say that the positions are "user specified". You can label th evalues either way you wish.