From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs cvs newbie problems Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 20:32:44 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200210021336.g92DaF814104@f7.net> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1033712946 2064 127.0.0.1 (4 Oct 2002 06:29:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eliz@is.elta.co.il, hattons@speakeasy.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17xLxM-0000Wm-00 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 08:29:00 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17xMiq-0000xv-00 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 09:18:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17xLgS-0001Dq-00; Fri, 04 Oct 2002 02:11:32 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17wtv5-0001AG-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 20:32:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17wtv3-00019u-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 20:32:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17wtv3-00019o-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 20:32:45 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 17wtv2-0001LT-00; Wed, 02 Oct 2002 20:32:44 -0400 Original-To: karl@freefriends.org In-reply-to: <200210021336.g92DaF814104@f7.net> (karl@freefriends.org) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:8360 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:8360 GNU Packages Texinfo documentation system Printing Tools GNU programming tools Emacs GNU Gettext Utilities GNU programming support GNU libraries GNU programming documentation GNU organization GNU music project TeX DOS Other things Individual utilities TeX, DOS and Emacs seem like useful categories. "Printing" would be a good category, but the name "Printing tools" is not as good. The others don't make any sense. They are either too broad, or too narrow, or they focus on the wrong distinctions (such as GNU vs non-GNU or tools vs support). Texinfo probably belongs in the TeX category, and in a category called "Text Formatting". Gettext belongs in "Internationalization". Programming tools probably should be divided into two categories, "Programming" and "Scripting". Popular languages such as C, C++, Perl, Python, and Java probably deserve categories too. Do you see the logic now? Imagine that you know vaguely what sort of job you want to do but you don't know what programs there are to do it. What categories would be useful for you? It's like choosing subject listings for the Subject catalog in a library: you want them to be useful for people to find books they have never heard of. "GNU libraries" as a subject is analogous to "Random House hardcovers"--not a useful subject classification.