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@ 1999-01-02  0:59 dr, garuba umar
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From: dr, garuba umar @ 1999-01-02  0:59 UTC (permalink / raw)


From the desk of: DR. GARUBA UMAR
Tel No: Your Intl. Access Code + 2348033026121
Fax No: Your Intl. Access Code + 234 1 7740434
E-FAX : +17752561718 
Email:garubaumar@africamail.com
garubaumar@accountant.com
Lagos, Nigeria.
Dear Sir,

REQUEST FOR AN URGENT CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP

After due deliberation with my colleagues, We have decided to forward to
you this business proposal. We want a reliable person who could assist us
in the transfer the sum of Twenty Million, Five Hundred Thousand United
States Dollars ( $20,500,000 ). Via International Bank Draft Cashable in
any First World Countries.

This fund resulted from an over-invoiced bill from contracts awarded by us
under the budget allocation to our Ministry. This bill has been approved
for payment by the other concerned Ministries. The contract has since been
executed, commissioned and the contractor was paid the actual cost of the
contract. We are left with the balance US$20.5M as part of the
over-invoiced amount which we have deliberated over estimated for our own
use. But under our protocol division, we as civil servants are forbidden
to operate or own foreign accounts. This is why we are soliciting your
assistance in this manner and regard .

As you may want to know and to make you less curious, I got your address
from adverts in the business directory . I am the Chief
Accountant/Internal Auditor of the Contract Award Committee ( CAC ) of the
Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation ( NNPC). This transaction is very
much free from all sorts of RISKS and TROUBLE from my Government. We the
N.N.P.C. Officials involved in this deal have put in many years in service
to this Ministry. We have been exercising patience for this opportunity
for so long and to most of us this is a life time opportunity we cannot
afford to miss.

We have agreed to COMPENSATE you duly if agreement is reached by both of
us and I and one of my colleagues involved in this deal will come to your
country to arrange for our share, upon the confirmation from you that the
Certified International Bank Draft has been Approved and Raised in your
favor.

Consequent upon your acceptance of this proposal, kindly confirm your
interest by Telephone to me, through my Direct Tel No: +2348033026121.
(Please fax,(234)1 7740434 OR MY AMERICAN E/FAX NUMBER +17752561718.Your
indication by revert Telephone to me of your sincere and serious interest
will enable me fax you or brief you of  the PROCEDURES FOR THIS
TRANSACTION. If my line is busy, please keep trying you will surely get
through.
NOTE: In the event of your inability to handle this transaction please
inform us so that we can look for another reliable person who can assist
in this respect. 

It might surprise you why we choose you and trusted you for this
transaction. Yes, we believe that good friends can be discovered and
business like this can not be realized without mutual trust. This is why
we have decided to trust you for this transaction. Be further informed
that everyone's interest and
security had been considered before you were contacted, so be rest assured
and feel free to go into this transaction with us.
But let Honesty and Trust be our watchword throughout this transaction and
your prompt reply will be highly appreciated. Thank you, and God bless.
Best Regards,

DR.GARUBA UMAR

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@ 2002-02-21 13:16 Å©·¹ÀÌÁö
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  2002-02-23 16:11 ctext-pre-write-conversion barfs Tak Ota
@ 2002-02-23 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2002-02-23 23:11   ` Tak Ota
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2002-02-23 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

	 Tak Ota on Sat, 23 Feb 2002 08:11:49 -0800 (PST))
Subject: Re: ctext-pre-write-conversion barfs
Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il>
References: <20020222.225355.01365596.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com>
	    <9743-Sat23Feb2002104842+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> <20020223.081149.60852929.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com>
--text follows this line--
> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 08:11:49 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tak Ota <Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com>
> 
> BTW, I just now tried to save this buffer and noticed that
> ctext-pre-write-conversion was invoked.  It is called 3 times for
> each save-buffer.  Here is the output from describe-coding-system.
> 
> Coding system for saving this buffer:
>   x -- ctext-unix

Could you please find out how come the buffer's encoding got set to
ctext-unix?  It's a very unusual coding system for buffers.
Compound-text is normally used for X selections only.

The reason I'm asking you to look into this is that the assumption
behind the code I wrote for the ctext extensions is that ctext is not
normally used for file I/O.  There are limitations of the pre-write
and post-read conversions that make the modified ctext coding system
inappropriate for reading and writing text to/from multibyte buffers.
If ctext is used for file I/O, I will have to revert the decision to
call the new encoding `ctext', and will find some other name.

So please look into this.  Thanks in advance.

_______________________________________________
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Emacs-devel@gnu.org
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  2002-02-23 18:51 ` (no subject) Eli Zaretskii
@ 2002-02-23 23:11   ` Tak Ota
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From: Tak Ota @ 2002-02-23 23:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: eliz, emacs-devel

Yamamoto-san,

We find that there is a small conflict in a recent change made to the
developer version of emacs with the coding system used in Mew package.

Could you answer to the following question?  What I can tell is
mew-mule3.el defines as:

;; ctext for consistency --unibyte, -unix for XEmacs's ^M
(defvar mew-cs-m17n (if (mew-coding-system-p 'ctext-unix) 'ctext-unix 'ctext))

Therefore many buffers in Mew sets ctext-unix as the default coding
system.  However, I have no idea how this decision was made.

-Tak

Sat, 23 Feb 2002 13:51:54 -0500: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> 	 Tak Ota on Sat, 23 Feb 2002 08:11:49 -0800 (PST))
> Subject: Re: ctext-pre-write-conversion barfs
> Reply-to: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@is.elta.co.il>
> References: <20020222.225355.01365596.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com>
> 	    <9743-Sat23Feb2002104842+0200-eliz@is.elta.co.il> <20020223.081149.60852929.Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com>
> --text follows this line--
> > Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 08:11:49 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Tak Ota <Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com>
> > 
> > BTW, I just now tried to save this buffer and noticed that
> > ctext-pre-write-conversion was invoked.  It is called 3 times for
> > each save-buffer.  Here is the output from describe-coding-system.
> > 
> > Coding system for saving this buffer:
> >   x -- ctext-unix
> 
> Could you please find out how come the buffer's encoding got set to
> ctext-unix?  It's a very unusual coding system for buffers.
> Compound-text is normally used for X selections only.
> 
> The reason I'm asking you to look into this is that the assumption
> behind the code I wrote for the ctext extensions is that ctext is not
> normally used for file I/O.  There are limitations of the pre-write
> and post-read conversions that make the modified ctext coding system
> inappropriate for reading and writing text to/from multibyte buffers.
> If ctext is used for file I/O, I will have to revert the decision to
> call the new encoding `ctext', and will find some other name.
> 
> So please look into this.  Thanks in advance.
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Emacs-devel mailing list
> Emacs-devel@gnu.org
> http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel

_______________________________________________
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Emacs-devel@gnu.org
http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel


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@ 2002-03-29  8:07 ´ºÆ®¸®¼Ç Æ÷ ¶óÀÌÇÁ
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@ 2002-04-07  8:34 Á¦ÁÖ ÇѶó¸®Á¶Æ®
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@ 2002-04-07 23:29 Ulrich Neumerkel
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From: Ulrich Neumerkel @ 2002-04-07 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw)



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@ 2002-04-21  4:35 faxin01
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From: faxin01 @ 2002-04-21  4:35 UTC (permalink / raw)


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@ 2002-04-21  4:35 faxin01
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@ 2002-04-26 18:18 c burke
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Do you have a Windows versions

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@ 2002-05-02 19:37 laurent mpeti kabila
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REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS ASSISTANCE
--------------------------------------
Your contact was availed to me by the chamber of
commerce. It was given
to me because of my diplomatic status as I did not
disclose the actual
reasons for which I sought your contact. But I was
assured
That you are reputable and trustworthy if you will be
of assistance. I am Laurent Mpeti Kabila (Jnr) the
second son of
Late President LAURENT DESIRE KABILA the immediate
Past president of the DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CONGO in
Africa who was
murdered by his opposition through his personal
bodyguards in his bedroom
on Tuesday 16th January, 2001. I have the privilege of
being mandated
by my father colleagues to seek your immediate and
urgent co-operation
to receive into your bank account the sum of US $25m.
(twenty-five million Dollars) and some thousands carats
of Diamond. This
money and treasures was lodged in a vault with a
security firm in
Europe and South-Africa.

SOURCES OF DIAMONDS AND FUND
In August 2000, my father as a defence minister and
president has a
meeting with his cabinet and armychief about the
defence budget for 2000
to 2001 which was US $700m. so he directed one of his
best
friend. Frederic Kibasa Maliba who was a minister of
mines and a political party leader known as the Union
Sacree de, I\x11
opposition radicale et ses allies (USORAL) to buy arms
with US $200m on
5th January 2001; for him to finalized the arm\x12s deal,
my father was
murdered. f.K. Maliba (FKM) and I have decided to keep
the money with a
foreigner after which he will use it to contest for
the political
election. Inspite of all this we have resolved to
present your or your company
for the firm to pay it into your nominated account the
above sum and
diamonds. This transaction should be finalized within
seven (7) working
days and for your co-operation and partnership, we
have unanimously
agreed that you will be entitled to 5.5% of the money
when successfully
receive it in your account. The nature of your
business is not relevant to
the successful execution of this transaction what we
require is your
total co-operation and commitment to ensure 100%
risk-free transaction at
both ends and to protect the persons involved in this
transactio!
n, strict confidence and utmost secrecy is required
even after the
successful conclusion of this transaction. If this
proposal is acceptable
to you, kindly provide me with your personal telephone
and fax through
my E-mail box for immediate commencement of the
 transaction. I count on your honour to keep my
secret, SECRET.

Looking forward for your urgent reply
Thanks.
Best Regards

MPETI L. KABILA (Jnr)

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@ 2002-05-04  8:27 ÀÌÀü¿Á
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@ 2002-05-04  8:27 ÀÌÀü¿Á
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@ 2002-05-13  4:27 Shibata Keisuke
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In GNU Emacs 19.34.1 (i386--freebsd5.0, X toolkit) of Thu Aug 9 2001
on tomcat.cc.meisei-u.ac.jp configured using `configure --
with-executable=mule --with-emacs-prefix=mule --with-terminal-face --
x-includes=/usr/X11R6/include --x-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib --
with-canna --with-canna-libraries=/usr/local/lib --
with-canna-includes=/usr/local/include --with-x-toolkit --
prefix=/usr/local i386--freebsd5.0'

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise
symptoms of the bug:




Recent input: menu-bar files open-file menu-bar files make-frame
switch-frame menu-bar files make-frame-on-display switch-frame
down-mouse-1 mouse-movement mouse-1 menu-bar edit spell ispell-message
menu-bar search bookmark load menu-bar help-menu emacs-news menu-bar
help-menu emacs-faq down-mouse-1 mouse-movement mouse-1 menu-bar
help-menu report-emacs-bug menu-bar minibuf return

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file is write protected Loading outline...  Loading outline...done
Cannot switch buffers in minibuffer window Note: file is write
protected Cannot switch buffers in minibuffer window Loading
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@ 2002-05-17 14:07 Don Huk
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C:\My Documents\members.htm From:Huk@turbomail.com
 

Dear Friend:
AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV:
''Making over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home
for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars expense one
time'' THANKS TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET!
Before you say ''Bull'', please read the following. This is the letter
you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the
popularity of this letter on the Internet, a national weekly news
program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of
this program described below, to see if it really can make people
money.
The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal. Their
findings proved once and for all that there are ''absolutely NO Laws
prohibiting the participation in the program and if people can follow
the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega bucks with
only

$25 out of pocket cost''.
DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT
THIS PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING
BETTER THAN EVER.
This is what one had to say:
''Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times
before but each time I passed on it. I am so glad
I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the
minimal effort and money required. To my astonishment, I
received total $ 610,470.00 in21 weeks, with money still coming in''.
Pam Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Here is another testimonial:
'This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in
it.

But one day when I received this again in
the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed the
simple instructions and walaa ..... 3 weeks later the money
started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but
the next 2 months after that I made a total of $290,000.00.
So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I
have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again.
The key to success in this program is to follow the simple
steps and NOTchange anything.''
More testimonials later but first,
*** PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTURE REFERENCE ***
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months
easily and comfortably, please read the following...THEN READ
IT AGAIN and AGAIN!!!
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR
FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME TRUE, GUARANTEED!
INSTRUCTIONS:
**** Order all 5 reports shown on the list below.
**** For each report, send $5CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF
THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS
to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report.
MAKE SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE
TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail problems.
**** When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5
reports. You will need all 5 reports so that you can save them on
your computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5X 5 = $25.00.
**** Within a few days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5
reports from these 5 different individuals. Save them on your
computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's
of people who will order them from you. Also make a floppy of these
reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your
computer.
****. IMPORTANT -DO NOT alter the names of the people who are
listed next to each report, or their sequence on the list, in
any way other than what is instructed below in step '' 1 through
6 '' or you will loose out on majority of your profits. Once you
understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not
work if you change it.
Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it
will NOT work!!! People have tried to put their friends/relatives
names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it
does not work this way. Believe us, we all have tried to be greedy
and then nothing happened.
So Do Not try to change anything other than what is instructed.
Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty
reaps the reward!!!
1.. After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement
and REMOVE the name & address of the person in REPORT # 5. This
person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting
their fortune.
2.... Move the name & address in REPORT #4down TO REPORT #5.
3.... Move the name & address in REPORT #3 down TO REPORT #4.
4.... Move the name & address in REPORT #2 down TO REPORT #3.
5.... Move the name & address in REPORT #1 down TO REPORT #2
6.... Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT #1 Position.
PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address
ACCURATELY!
=================================================
Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save
it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY OTHER CHANGES.
Save this on a disk as well just in case if you loose any data.
To assist you with marketing your business on the Internet, the
5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable
marketing information which includes how to send bulk e-mails
legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much
more.
There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going:
METHOD # 1 : BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY
============================================
let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it
goes, and we will assume You and those involved send out only
5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only
a 0.2% response (the response could be much better but lets just
say it is only 0.2% . Also many people will send out hundreds of
thousands e-mails instead of only 5,000 each).
Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails.
With a 0.2%response, that is only 10 orders for report #1.
Those 10people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail
each for a total of 50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only
0.2% responded with orders. That's = 100 people responded
and ordered Report #2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000
e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response
to that is 1000 orders for Report #3. Those 1000 people send
out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5 million e-mails sent out.
The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report #4.
Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of
50,000,000 (50 million)e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is
100,000 orders for Report # 5.
THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH = $500,000.00 (half million).
Your total income in this example is:
1..... $50+
2..... $500+
3..... $5,000+
4..... $50,000+
5..... $500,000.........Grand Total = $555,550.00
NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE
OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER
HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF
MONEY!
------------------------------------------------------------------------
REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE
ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO. Dare to think for
a moment what would happen if everyone, or half or even one 4thof
those people mailed 100,000 e-mails each or more? There are
over 150 million people on the Internet worldwide and counting.
Believe me, many people will do just that, and more!
METHOD #2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET
===================================================
Advertising on the net is very very inexpensive and there are
hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads
on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly
suggest you start with Method # 1 and add METHOD #2 as you go
along.
For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report
they ordered. That's it. Always provide same day service on all
orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with your
name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not
advertise until they receive the report.
AVAILABLE REPORTS

ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY.
Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. CURRENCY) for each Report.
Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping
it in at least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper,
Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you are ordering,
YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address.
PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR THESE REPORTS NOW:
==============================================
Report #1:"The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net"
Order Report #1 from:
Automarine Corp.
P.O. Box 1470
Wilmington, DE 19899
USA
==============================================
Report #2:"The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net"
Order Report #2 from:
Pat Tremblay
206 McMakin Dr.
Greenville,S.C.29617
USA
==============================================
REPORT #3:  The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk E-Mail on the Net
Order Report #3 from:
Adriana Bustamante
5314 8th Rd.#5
Arlington,Va.22204
USA
==============================================
REPORT # 4: Secret to Multi-Level Marketing on the Net
Order Report #4 from:
Sharron Martin
5051 N 850 E
N Webster,In 46555
USA
==============================================
REPORT #5: "How to Become a Millionaire Utilizing MLM & the Net
Order Report #5 from:
William Dutton
1820 Penrod Way
Lakeside,AZ 85929
USA
==============================================
$$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$$$$$$$$$
Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success:
If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2
weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do.
After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that
you should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT #2.
If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until
you do.
Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report #2,
YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is already working for
you , and the cash will continue to roll in!
THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every time your name is
moved down on the list, you are placed in front of a different
report.
You can KEEP Track of your PROGRESS by watching which
report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE
MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAIL SAND
START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. There is NO LIMIT to
the income you can generate from this business!!!
____________________________________________________
FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS
PROGRAM:
"You have just received information that can give you financial
freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A
LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the
next few weeks and months than you have ever imagined.
Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change
it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now.
Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you
have put your name and address in Report #1 and moved others to
#2...........#5 as instructed above. One of the people you send
this to may send out 100,000 or more e-mails and your name will be
on everyone of them. Remember though, the more you send out the
more potential customers you will reach.
So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information,
materials and opportunity to become financially independent.
IT IS UP TO YOU NOW!
************** MORETESTIMONIALS****************
' My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago.
I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I
make pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled
to Jody about receiving ''junk mail''. I made fun of the whole
thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages
involved. I ''knew'' it wouldn't work. Jody totally ignored my
supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both
feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old ''I
told you so'' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh
was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the
next 45 days she had received a total of $ 147,200.00 all cash!I
was shocked. I have joined Jody in her ''hobby''.
Mitchell Wolf, M.D. , Chicago, Illinois
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to
make up my mind to participate in this plan. But conservative that
I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that
there was just no way that I wouldn't get enough orders to at least
get my money back.
I was surprised when I found my medium size post office box crammed
with orders. I made $319,210.00 in the first 12 weeks. The nice
thing about this deal is that it does not matter where people live.
There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return and so
big''.
Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

'I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I
wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea
who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-
mailed again by someone else.........11 months passed then it
luckily came again...... I did not delete this one! I made more
than $490,000 on my first try and all the money came within 22
weeks''.
Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
'' It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money
with little cost to you. I followed the simple instructions
and within 10 days the money started to come in. My first
month I made $ 20, 560.00 and by the end of third month my total
cash count was $ 362,840.00.
Life is beautiful, Thanx to Internet''.
Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand
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know of something that will not allow you (some how) to monkey with a file
that you already have open elsewhere?

like some sort of 'strict opening' mode?

eg:

$ emacs filename.txt

i ^Z that file

$ emacs filename.txt

file should be opened READONLY or should bomb out with some error because
its already open


---
Gabriel C. Millerd |     I know not with what weapons World War III will be
        Sith Admin |    fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks
                   |               and stones. -Albert Einstein

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Dear Friend & Future Millionaire: 

AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV:
Making over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars 
expense one time.
THANK'S TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET!
========================================================================================================== 

BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before you say ''Bull'', please read the following. 
This is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, 
a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described 
below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal. 
Their findings proved once and for all that there are ''absolutely NO Laws prohibiting the participation in the 
program and if people can - follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega bucks with only 
$25 out of pocket cost''. DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS 
PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER. This is what 
one had to say: ''Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times before but each time I 
passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and 
money required. To my astonishment, I received total $ 610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in." Pam 
Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. 
=========================================================================================================== 
Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day 
when I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and 
walaa . 3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after 
that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made over 
$710,000.00 and I am doing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT 
change anything.'' More testimonials later but first,

============================ PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTURE REFERENCE ==========================

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months easily and comfortably, please read the following 
THEN READ IT AGAIN and AGAIN!!!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME 
TRUE, GUARANTEED! INSTRUCTIONS:

====================================Order all 5 reports shown on the list below =================================
For each report, send $5.00 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and 
YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE 
SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail 
problems. When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so 
that you can save them on your computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00. Within a few 
days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports From these 5 different individuals. Save them on your 
computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also 
make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer. 
IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on 
the list, in any way other than what is instructed below in step '' 1 through 6 '' or you will loose out on majority of 
your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. 
Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work !!! People have tried to put their 
friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, 
we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than what is 
instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!!
1......After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the 
person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune.
2......Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5.
3.....Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4.
4.....Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3.
5.....Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2
6.....Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & 
address ACCURATELY!
============================================================================================================== 
Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY 
OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case if you loose any data. To assist you with marketing 
your business on the Internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information 
which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. 
There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD # 1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY
====================================================================================== 
Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved send 
out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could 
be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails 
instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% response, 
that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 
50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That's=100 people responded and ordered 
Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to 
that is 1000 orders for Report # 3.Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5million e-mails 
sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails 
each for a total of 50,000,000(50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5 
THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (half million).
Your total income in this example is:
1.... $50 +
2.... $500 +
3.... $5,000 +
4.. $50,000 +
5.... $500,000 Grand Total=$555,550.00
NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE 
RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF 
MONEY !
================================================================================================================ 
REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU 
MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone or half or Even one 4th of those 
people mailed 100,000e-mails each or more? There are over 150 million people on the Internet worldwide and 
counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! METHOD # 2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON 
THE INTERNET
================================================================================================================ 
Advertising on the net is very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free 
ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add 
METHOD # 2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. 
That's it. Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with 
your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they receive the report.
==========================================AVAILABLE REPORTS=================================================
ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. 
CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at 
least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you 
are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR 
THESE REPORTS NOW :
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 1:
"The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net" Order Report #1 from:
Fairhand
Elizabeth House
Meopham
Kent DA13 0AJ 
UK
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 2:
"The Insider's Guide to sendind Bulk Email on the Internet" Order Report #2 from:
DL Toney
34 Elm Crescent
East Malling
Kent
UK
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 3:
"The Secrets to Multilevel Marketing on the Internet" Order Report # 3 from:
The PW Company
PMB #217
5250 Grand Ave, Suite #14
Gurnee, IL 60031-1877 USA
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 4:
"How to Become a Millionaire Utilizing MultiLevel Marketing & the Internet" Order Report # 4 from:
Doug Berry
520 Broadmeadow
Rantoul, IL 61866
USA
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 5:
"How to send 1,000,000 Emails For Free" Order Report # 5 from:
Aaron Joseph
P.O Box 21155
Columbia Heights, MN 55421
USA
================================================================================================================== 

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 
weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you 
should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT # 2. If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until 
you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report # 2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is 
already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every 
time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in Front of a Different report. You can KEEP TRACK 
of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE 
MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. 
There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business !!!
=================================================================================================================== 
FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You have just received 
information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT 
OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow 
the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. 
Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you have put your name and address in Report #1 and 
moved others to #2 thru # 5 as instructed above. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or 
more e-mails and your name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the more you send out the more 
potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and 
opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW !
=========================================== MORE TESTIMONIALS ===============================================
"My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and 
I make pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about receiving ''junk mail''. I made 
fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I ''knew'' it wouldn't 
work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I made 
merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old ''I told you so'' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the 
laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had received total $ 
147,200.00 all cash! I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her ''hobby''.
Mitchell Wolf M.D., Chicago, Illinois 
================================================================================================================ 
''Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But 
conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't 
get enough orders to at least get my money back''. '' I was surprised when I found my medium size post office 
box crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00 in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does 
not matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return and so big."
Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada
====================================================================================== 
''I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I 
had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by someone 
else........11 months passed then it luckily came again I did not delete this one! I made more than $490,000 on my 
first try and all the money came within 22 weeks."
Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y.
====================================================================================== 
''It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with little cost to you. I followed the simple 
instructions carefully and within 10 days the money started to come in. My first month I made $20,560.00 and by 
the end of third month my total cash count was $362,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanx to Internet."
Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand
====================================================================================== 
ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON 'YOUR' ROAD TO 
FINANCIAL FREEDOM !
====================================================================================== 
If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact The Office of Associate Director for Marketing 
Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C
To be taken OFF of our list of people that will make money on this deal click here 
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Dear Friend & Future Millionaire: 

AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV:
Making over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars 
expense one time.
THANK'S TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET!
========================================================================================================== 

BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before you say ''Bull'', please read the following. 
This is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, 
a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described 
below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal. 
Their findings proved once and for all that there are ''absolutely NO Laws prohibiting the participation in the 
program and if people can - follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega bucks with only 
$25 out of pocket cost''. DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS 
PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER. This is what 
one had to say: ''Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times before but each time I 
passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and 
money required. To my astonishment, I received total $ 610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in." Pam 
Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. 
=========================================================================================================== 
Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day 
when I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and 
walaa . 3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after 
that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made over 
$710,000.00 and I am doing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT 
change anything.'' More testimonials later but first,

============================ PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTURE REFERENCE ==========================

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months easily and comfortably, please read the following 
THEN READ IT AGAIN and AGAIN!!!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME 
TRUE, GUARANTEED! INSTRUCTIONS:

====================================Order all 5 reports shown on the list below =================================
For each report, send $5.00 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and 
YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE 
SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail 
problems. When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so 
that you can save them on your computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00. Within a few 
days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports From these 5 different individuals. Save them on your 
computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also 
make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer. 
IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on 
the list, in any way other than what is instructed below in step '' 1 through 6 '' or you will loose out on majority of 
your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. 
Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work !!! People have tried to put their 
friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, 
we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than what is 
instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!!
1......After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the 
person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune.
2......Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5.
3.....Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4.
4.....Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3.
5.....Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2
6.....Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & 
address ACCURATELY!
============================================================================================================== 
Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY 
OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case if you loose any data. To assist you with marketing 
your business on the Internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information 
which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. 
There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD # 1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY
====================================================================================== 
Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved send 
out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could 
be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails 
instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% response, 
that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 
50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That's=100 people responded and ordered 
Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to 
that is 1000 orders for Report # 3.Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5million e-mails 
sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails 
each for a total of 50,000,000(50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5 
THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (half million).
Your total income in this example is:
1.... $50 +
2.... $500 +
3.... $5,000 +
4.. $50,000 +
5.... $500,000 Grand Total=$555,550.00
NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE 
RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF 
MONEY !
================================================================================================================ 
REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU 
MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone or half or Even one 4th of those 
people mailed 100,000e-mails each or more? There are over 150 million people on the Internet worldwide and 
counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! METHOD # 2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON 
THE INTERNET
================================================================================================================ 
Advertising on the net is very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free 
ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add 
METHOD # 2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. 
That's it. Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with 
your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they receive the report.
==========================================AVAILABLE REPORTS=================================================
ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. 
CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at 
least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you 
are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR 
THESE REPORTS NOW :
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 1:
"The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net" Order Report #1 from:
Fairhand
Elizabeth House
Meopham
Kent DA13 0AJ 
UK
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 2:
"The Insider's Guide to sendind Bulk Email on the Internet" Order Report #2 from:
DL Toney
34 Elm Crescent
East Malling
Kent
UK
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 3:
"The Secrets to Multilevel Marketing on the Internet" Order Report # 3 from:
The PW Company
PMB #217
5250 Grand Ave, Suite #14
Gurnee, IL 60031-1877 USA
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 4:
"How to Become a Millionaire Utilizing MultiLevel Marketing & the Internet" Order Report # 4 from:
Doug Berry
520 Broadmeadow
Rantoul, IL 61866
USA
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 5:
"How to send 1,000,000 Emails For Free" Order Report # 5 from:
Aaron Joseph
P.O Box 21155
Columbia Heights, MN 55421
USA
================================================================================================================== 

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 
weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you 
should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT # 2. If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until 
you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report # 2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is 
already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every 
time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in Front of a Different report. You can KEEP TRACK 
of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE 
MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. 
There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business !!!
=================================================================================================================== 
FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You have just received 
information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT 
OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow 
the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. 
Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you have put your name and address in Report #1 and 
moved others to #2 thru # 5 as instructed above. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or 
more e-mails and your name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the more you send out the more 
potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and 
opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW !
=========================================== MORE TESTIMONIALS ===============================================
"My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and 
I make pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about receiving ''junk mail''. I made 
fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I ''knew'' it wouldn't 
work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I made 
merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old ''I told you so'' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the 
laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had received total $ 
147,200.00 all cash! I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her ''hobby''.
Mitchell Wolf M.D., Chicago, Illinois 
================================================================================================================ 
''Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But 
conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't 
get enough orders to at least get my money back''. '' I was surprised when I found my medium size post office 
box crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00 in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does 
not matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return and so big."
Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada
====================================================================================== 
''I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I 
had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by someone 
else........11 months passed then it luckily came again I did not delete this one! I made more than $490,000 on my 
first try and all the money came within 22 weeks."
Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y.
====================================================================================== 
''It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with little cost to you. I followed the simple 
instructions carefully and within 10 days the money started to come in. My first month I made $20,560.00 and by 
the end of third month my total cash count was $362,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanx to Internet."
Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand
====================================================================================== 
ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON 'YOUR' ROAD TO 
FINANCIAL FREEDOM !
====================================================================================== 
If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact The Office of Associate Director for Marketing 
Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C
To be taken OFF of our list of people that will make money on this deal click here 
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Dear Friend & Future Millionaire: 

AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV:
Making over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars 
expense one time.
THANK'S TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET!
========================================================================================================== 

BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before you say ''Bull'', please read the following. 
This is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, 
a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described 
below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal. 
Their findings proved once and for all that there are ''absolutely NO Laws prohibiting the participation in the 
program and if people can - follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega bucks with only 
$25 out of pocket cost''. DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS 
PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER. This is what 
one had to say: ''Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times before but each time I 
passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and 
money required. To my astonishment, I received total $ 610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in." Pam 
Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. 
=========================================================================================================== 
Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day 
when I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and 
walaa . 3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after 
that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made over 
$710,000.00 and I am doing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT 
change anything.'' More testimonials later but first,

============================ PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTURE REFERENCE ==========================

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months easily and comfortably, please read the following 
THEN READ IT AGAIN and AGAIN!!!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME 
TRUE, GUARANTEED! INSTRUCTIONS:

====================================Order all 5 reports shown on the list below =================================
For each report, send $5.00 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and 
YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE 
SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail 
problems. When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so 
that you can save them on your computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00. Within a few 
days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports From these 5 different individuals. Save them on your 
computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also 
make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer. 
IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on 
the list, in any way other than what is instructed below in step '' 1 through 6 '' or you will loose out on majority of 
your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. 
Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work !!! People have tried to put their 
friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, 
we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than what is 
instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!!
1......After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the 
person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune.
2......Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5.
3.....Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4.
4.....Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3.
5.....Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2
6.....Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & 
address ACCURATELY!
============================================================================================================== 
Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY 
OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case if you loose any data. To assist you with marketing 
your business on the Internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information 
which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. 
There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD # 1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY
====================================================================================== 
Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved send 
out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could 
be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails 
instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% response, 
that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 
50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That's=100 people responded and ordered 
Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to 
that is 1000 orders for Report # 3.Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5million e-mails 
sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails 
each for a total of 50,000,000(50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5 
THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (half million).
Your total income in this example is:
1.... $50 +
2.... $500 +
3.... $5,000 +
4.. $50,000 +
5.... $500,000 Grand Total=$555,550.00
NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE 
RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF 
MONEY !
================================================================================================================ 
REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU 
MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone or half or Even one 4th of those 
people mailed 100,000e-mails each or more? There are over 150 million people on the Internet worldwide and 
counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! METHOD # 2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON 
THE INTERNET
================================================================================================================ 
Advertising on the net is very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free 
ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add 
METHOD # 2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. 
That's it. Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with 
your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they receive the report.
==========================================AVAILABLE REPORTS=================================================
ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. 
CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at 
least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you 
are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR 
THESE REPORTS NOW :
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 1:
"The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net" Order Report #1 from:
Fairhand
Elizabeth House
Meopham
Kent DA13 0AJ 
UK
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 2:
"The Insider's Guide to sendind Bulk Email on the Internet" Order Report #2 from:
DL Toney
34 Elm Crescent
East Malling
Kent
UK
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 3:
"The Secrets to Multilevel Marketing on the Internet" Order Report # 3 from:
The PW Company
PMB #217
5250 Grand Ave, Suite #14
Gurnee, IL 60031-1877 USA
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 4:
"How to Become a Millionaire Utilizing MultiLevel Marketing & the Internet" Order Report # 4 from:
Doug Berry
520 Broadmeadow
Rantoul, IL 61866
USA
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 5:
"How to send 1,000,000 Emails For Free" Order Report # 5 from:
Aaron Joseph
P.O Box 21155
Columbia Heights, MN 55421
USA
================================================================================================================== 

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 
weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you 
should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT # 2. If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until 
you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report # 2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is 
already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every 
time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in Front of a Different report. You can KEEP TRACK 
of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE 
MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. 
There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business !!!
=================================================================================================================== 
FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You have just received 
information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT 
OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow 
the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. 
Remember to e-mail a copy of this exciting report after you have put your name and address in Report #1 and 
moved others to #2 thru # 5 as instructed above. One of the people you send this to may send out 100,000 or 
more e-mails and your name will be on every one of them. Remember though, the more you send out the more 
potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and 
opportunity to become financially independent. IT IS UP TO YOU NOW !
=========================================== MORE TESTIMONIALS ===============================================
"My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago. I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and 
I make pretty good money. When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about receiving ''junk mail''. I made 
fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of the population and percentages involved. I ''knew'' it wouldn't 
work. Jody totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped in with both feet. I made 
merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old ''I told you so'' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the 
laugh was on me! Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days she had received total $ 
147,200.00 all cash! I was shocked. I have joined Jody in her ''hobby''.
Mitchell Wolf M.D., Chicago, Illinois 
================================================================================================================ 
''Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this plan. But 
conservative that I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn't 
get enough orders to at least get my money back''. '' I was surprised when I found my medium size post office 
box crammed with orders. I made $319,210.00 in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that it does 
not matter where people live. There simply isn't a better investment with a faster return and so big."
Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada
====================================================================================== 
''I had received this program before. I deleted it, but later I wondered if I should have given it a try. Of course, I 
had no idea who to contact to get another copy, so I had to wait until I was e-mailed again by someone 
else........11 months passed then it luckily came again I did not delete this one! I made more than $490,000 on my 
first try and all the money came within 22 weeks."
Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y.
====================================================================================== 
''It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money with little cost to you. I followed the simple 
instructions carefully and within 10 days the money started to come in. My first month I made $20,560.00 and by 
the end of third month my total cash count was $362,840.00. Life is beautiful, Thanx to Internet."
Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand
====================================================================================== 
ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON 'YOUR' ROAD TO 
FINANCIAL FREEDOM !
====================================================================================== 
If you have any questions of the legality of this program, contact The Office of Associate Director for Marketing 
Practices, Federal Trade Commission, Bureau of Consumer Protection, Washington, D.C
To be taken OFF of our list of people that will make money on this deal click here 
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From: Fairhand @ 2002-07-03  3:52 UTC (permalink / raw)


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Dear Friend & Future Millionaire: 

AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV:
Making over half million dollars every 4 to 5 months from your home for an investment of only $25 U.S. Dollars 
expense one time.
THANK'S TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET!
========================================================================================================== 

BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR!!! Before you say ''Bull'', please read the following. 
This is the letter you have been hearing about on the news lately. Due to the popularity of this letter on the Internet, 
a national weekly news program recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this program described 
below, to see if it really can make people money. The show also investigated whether or not the program was legal. 
Their findings proved once and for all that there are ''absolutely NO Laws prohibiting the participation in the 
program and if people can - follow the simple instructions, they are bound to make some mega bucks with only 
$25 out of pocket cost''. DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS 
PROGRAM HAS ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER. This is what 
one had to say: ''Thanks to this profitable opportunity. I was approached many times before but each time I 
passed on it. I am so glad I finally joined just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and 
money required. To my astonishment, I received total $ 610,470.00 in 21 weeks, with money still coming in." Pam 
Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. 
=========================================================================================================== 
Here is another testimonial: "This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. But one day 
when I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 on it. I followed the simple instructions and 
walaa . 3 weeks later the money started to come in. First month I only made $240.00 but the next 2 months after 
that I made a total of $290,000.00. So far, in the past 8 months by re-entering the program, I have made over 
$710,000.00 and I am doing it again. The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT 
change anything.'' More testimonials later but first,

============================ PRINT THIS NOW FOR YOUR FUTURE REFERENCE ==========================

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

If you would like to make at least $500,000 every 4 to 5 months easily and comfortably, please read the following 
THEN READ IT AGAIN and AGAIN!!!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

FOLLOW THE SIMPLE INSTRUCTION BELOW AND YOUR FINANCIAL DREAMS WILL COME 
TRUE, GUARANTEED! INSTRUCTIONS:

====================================Order all 5 reports shown on the list below =================================
For each report, send $5.00 CASH, THE NAME & NUMBER OF THE REPORT YOU ARE ORDERING and 
YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS to the person whose name appears ON THAT LIST next to the report. MAKE 
SURE YOUR RETURN ADDRESS IS ON YOUR ENVELOPE TOP LEFT CORNER in case of any mail 
problems. When you place your order, make sure you order each of the 5 reports. You will need all 5 reports so 
that you can save them on your computer and resell them. YOUR TOTAL COST $5 X 5=$25.00. Within a few 
days you will receive, vie e-mail, each of the 5 reports From these 5 different individuals. Save them on your 
computer so they will be accessible for you to send to the 1,000's of people who will order them from you. Also 
make a floppy of these reports and keep it on your desk in case something happen to your computer. 
IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to each report, or their sequence on 
the list, in any way other than what is instructed below in step '' 1 through 6 '' or you will loose out on majority of 
your profits. Once you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. 
Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter, it will NOT work !!! People have tried to put their 
friends/relatives names on all five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way. Believe us, 
we all have tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. So Do Not try to change anything other than what is 
instructed. Because if you do, it will not work for you. Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!!
1......After you have ordered all 5 reports, take this advertisement and REMOVE the name & address of the 
person in REPORT # 5. This person has made it through the cycle and is no doubt counting their fortune.
2......Move the name & address in REPORT # 4 down TO REPORT # 5.
3.....Move the name & address in REPORT # 3 down TO REPORT # 4.
4.....Move the name & address in REPORT # 2 down TO REPORT # 3.
5.....Move the name & address in REPORT # 1 down TO REPORT # 2
6.....Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT # 1 Position. PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & 
address ACCURATELY!
============================================================================================================== 
Take this entire letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer. DO NOT MAKE ANY 
OTHER CHANGES. Save this on a disk as well just in case if you loose any data. To assist you with marketing 
your business on the Internet, the 5 reports you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information 
which includes how to send bulk e-mails legally, where to find thousands of free classified ads and much more. 
There are 2 Primary methods to get this venture going: METHOD # 1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLY
====================================================================================== 
Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we will assume You and those involved send 
out only 5,000 e-mails each. Let's also assume that the mailing receive only a 0.2% response (the response could 
be much better but lets just say it is only 0.2%. Also many people will send out hundreds of thousands e-mails 
instead of only 5,000 each). Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails. With a 0.2% response, 
that is only 10 orders for report # 1. Those 10 people responded by sending out 5,000 e-mail each for a total of 
50,000. Out of those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders. That's=100 people responded and ordered 
Report # 2. Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 500,000 e-mails. The 0.2% response to 
that is 1000 orders for Report # 3.Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 5million e-mails 
sent out. The 0.2% response to that is 10,000 orders for Report # 4. Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails 
each for a total of 50,000,000(50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to that is 100,000 orders for Report # 5 
THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH=$500,000.00 (half million).
Your total income in this example is:
1.... $50 +
2.... $500 +
3.... $5,000 +
4.. $50,000 +
5.... $500,000 Grand Total=$555,550.00
NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE WORST POSSIBLE 
RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF 
MONEY !
================================================================================================================ 
REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU 
MAILED TO. Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone or half or Even one 4th of those 
people mailed 100,000e-mails each or more? There are over 150 million people on the Internet worldwide and 
counting. Believe me, many people will do just that, and more! METHOD # 2 : BY PLACING FREE ADS ON 
THE INTERNET
================================================================================================================ 
Advertising on the net is very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREE places to advertise. Placing a lot of free 
ads on the Internet will easily get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with Method # 1 and add 
METHOD # 2 as you go along. For every $5 you receive, all you must do is e-mail them the Report they ordered. 
That's it. Always provide same day service on all orders. This will guarantee that the e-mail they send out, with 
your name and address on it, will be prompt because they can not advertise until they receive the report.
==========================================AVAILABLE REPORTS=================================================
ORDER EACH REPORT BY ITS NUMBER & NAME ONLY. Notes: Always send $5 cash (U.S. 
CURRENCY) for each Report. Checks NOT accepted. Make sure the cash is concealed by wrapping it in at 
least 2 sheets of paper. On one of those sheets of paper, Write the NUMBER & the NAME of the Report you 
are ordering, YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS and your name and postal address. PLACE YOUR ORDER FOR 
THESE REPORTS NOW :
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 1:
"The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Net" Order Report #1 from:
Fairhand
Elizabeth House
Meopham
Kent DA13 0AJ 
UK
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 2:
"The Insider's Guide to sendind Bulk Email on the Internet" Order Report #2 from:
DL Toney
34 Elm Crescent
East Malling
Kent
UK
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 3:
"The Secrets to Multilevel Marketing on the Internet" Order Report # 3 from:
The PW Company
PMB #217
5250 Grand Ave, Suite #14
Gurnee, IL 60031-1877 USA
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 4:
"How to Become a Millionaire Utilizing MultiLevel Marketing & the Internet" Order Report # 4 from:
Doug Berry
520 Broadmeadow
Rantoul, IL 61866
USA
================================================================================================================= 
REPORT # 5:
"How to send 1,000,000 Emails For Free" Order Report # 5 from:
Aaron Joseph
P.O Box 21155
Columbia Heights, MN 55421
USA
================================================================================================================== 

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Follow these guidelines to guarantee your success: If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report #1 within 2 
weeks, continue sending e-mails until you do. After you have received 10 orders, 2 to 3 weeks after that you 
should receive 100 orders or more for REPORT # 2. If you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until 
you do. Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report # 2, YOU CAN RELAX, because the system is 
already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in ! THIS IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: Every 
time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in Front of a Different report. You can KEEP TRACK 
of your PROGRESS by watching which report people are ordering from you. IF YOU WANT TO GENERATE 
MORE INCOME SEND ANOTHER BATCH OF E-MAILS AND START THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN. 
There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business !!!
=================================================================================================================== 
FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: You have just received 
information that can give you financial freedom for the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT 
OF EFFORT. You can make more money in the next few weeks and months than you have ever imagined. Follow 
the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do Not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. 
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For more information about this offer click here. To get started immediately, complete the short survey below.
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TI wants to send you to your favourite concerts for free! 

Simply tell us what kind of music you like and we will notify you when your favourite shows are in your area. TI does not need your name or any other personal information making this a risk free opportunity. Great seats are given away at every show and one lucky subscriber will even get a chance to go backstage.
For more information about this offer click here. To get started immediately, complete the short survey below.
At Ticket Inbox we recognize that your time is valuable. Part of our success is because we adhere to Federal Government regulations on Internet privacy and we deliver on our promise to give you the best concert and event information. 

We welcome your feedback and if at anytime you are not satisfied you can unsubscribe. 


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For more information about this offer click here. To get started immediately, complete the short survey below.
At Ticket Inbox we recognize that your time is valuable. Part of our success is because we adhere to Federal Government regulations on Internet privacy and we deliver on our promise to give you the best concert and event information. 

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@ 2002-07-31  2:03 John Udeh
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                                    John Udeh
                                                                          
	                                                                         
                                                                          
                                    Tel: 234- 80 - 
33185767
				
	                                                                         
                                                                          
                                    Fax: 234-1- 
7599446
									
	                                                                         
                               john_udeh@ukanet.com
									
	                                                                         
                                                                          
                                                                          
                                                                          
30TH JULY, 2002
Dear Sir,
 
EXTREMELY BUSINESS TRANSACTION
RE: REMITTANCE OF US$50,500,000 MILLION INTO PRIVATE/COMPANY ACCOUNT .

We are compelled to contact you on this business proposal which will
certainly boost our financial stands when concluded.

We are top Federal Government officials with the Nigeria National
Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and also members of the contract review
committee 
responsible for the award of all Federal Government Contracts .
In collaboration with my colleagues, we propose to remit the sum of
US$50,500,000 Million (Fifty Million five hundred thousand US Dollars)
into a 
reliable foreign account and later invest some part of this funds into a
lucrative business in your country. 

SOURCE OF THE FUND

This amount was derived from over invoiced contract value on various
contracts awarded by the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) to 
foreign contractors which have been successfully executed and the original
contractors duly paid.

This over inflated amount is now in suspense account of the Nigerian
National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) awaiting for proper documentation for 
remittance into a reliable foreign bank account, We have unanimously
agreed to allocate you 15% of this fund for providing the foreign bank
where 
this fund will be remitted.

Equally, we have set aside 10% for local and international expenses, while
75% is for us and 15% for you. You should indicate your interest in 
assisting us to achieve this great objective to enable us put payment
claims in other to effect remittance of the fund into your account , You
should 
send urgently the following to the above number:

A. 	Account Name/Address, Fax/Phone Number of your Bank , Your account
number.
B.	Your private Fax/Telephone Respectively.

On the receipt of these vital requirements from you, We shall quickly
contact the concerned Federal Government  Agencies for speedy approvals of 
the payment .This transaction is very urgent and sensitive . In view of
this fact, we have decided that it will last for (14) working days from
the receipt 
of the above named requirements. 

We shall use a greater part of our share for investment in your country as
to be directed by you. You are assured of a hitch free transaction as we 
solicit for your adequate assistance. Honest and maximum cooperation . You
should maintain strict confidentiality of this business.

We look forward to receiving your positive response through the Fax number
above .

Thanks,

John Udeh
Email: john_udeh@ukanet.com

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@ 2002-07-31 20:13 John Udeh
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                                      MR. JOHN UDEH
                                                                          
                                                               Tel: 234-
80 - 33185767
                                                                          
                                              Fax: 234-1- 7599446
                                                                          
                                              john_udeh@ukanet.com

										
										  31TH JULY, 2002
Dear Sir,
 
EXTREMELY BUSINESS TRANSACTION
RE: REMITTANCE OF US$50,500,000 MILLION INTO PRIVATE/COMPANY ACCOUNT .

We are compelled to contact you on this business proposal which will
certainly boost our financial stands when concluded.

We are top Federal Government officials with the Nigeria National
Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and also members of the 
contract review committee responsible for the award of all Federal
Government Contracts .
In collaboration with my colleagues, we propose to remit the sum of
US$50,500,000 Million (Fifty Million five hundred 
thousand US Dollars) into a reliable foreign account and later invest some
part of this funds into a lucrative business in your 
country. 

SOURCE OF THE FUND

This amount was derived from over invoiced contract value on various
contracts awarded by the Nigerian National 
Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) to foreign contractors which have been
successfully executed and the original contractors 
duly paid.

This over inflated amount is now in suspense account of the Nigerian
National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) awaiting for 
proper documentation for remittance into a reliable foreign bank account,
We have unanimously agreed to allocate you 
15% of this fund for providing the foreign bank where this fund will be
remitted.

Equally, we have set aside 10% for local and international expenses, while
75% is for us and 15% for you. You should 
indicate your interest in assisting us to achieve this great objective to
enable us put payment claims in other to effect 
remittance of the fund into your account , You should send urgently the
following to the above number:

A. 	Account Name/Address, Fax/Phone Number of your Bank , Your account
number.
B.	Your private Fax/Telephone Respectively.

On the receipt of these vital requirements from you, We shall quickly
contact the concerned Federal Government  
Agencies for speedy approvals of the payment .This transaction is very
urgent and sensitive . In view of this fact, we have 
decided that it will last for (14) working days from the receipt of the
above named requirements. 

We shall use a greater part of our share for investment in your country as
to be directed by you. You are assured of a hitch 
free transaction as we solicit for your adequate assistance. Honest and
maximum cooperation . You should maintain strict 
confidentiality of this business.

We look forward to receiving your positive response through the Fax number
above .

Thanks,

MR. JOHN UDEH.

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@ 2002-08-03 21:46 kailash
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CONFIDENTIAL U.K. FAX NUMBER: 44-870-1309342

Dear Sir,

Pardon me for starting this great proposal this way as it might surprise you. My name is Yuvraj
Kailash a native of Nepal and attorney to the late king of Nepal who died as a result of loss in
temper caused by an argument between him and his family, as they were against him marrying his
fiancée .You were recommended by a close confidant. Who assured us of your capability and
reliability to assist us. We seek the assistance of someone who is genuinely interested in
entering into a business relationship with long term focus, and willingness of a kind heart to
help. 

If you are conversant with events in Nepal in May/June last year 2001, (June 1 2001), the media
was filled with reports that Crown Prince Dipendra of Nepal had shot and killed several members of
the Nepalese Royal Family, among whom were his parents King Birenda and Queen Aiswarya, before
trying to kill himself.

Prior to the late kings death (Prince Dipendra), he kept aside a secret amount of money, for his
fiancée (Miss Divyani Rana) worth over  US$30,000,000.00(Thirty million United States Dollars).
This was made in the heat of misunderstanding between him and members of his family. The money was
kept away in such a way to prevent any member of his family from having any access or trace to the
funds, which was just a part of his wealth, this was like a gift to his fiancée and a further
affirmation to her that he was surly going to marry her, even though, his family was against their
marriage. We have kept this a secret for sometime now and feel this is the right time to execute
this transaction.

The death of my late boss, left us stranded, we have therefore been searching for a genuine and
reliable person or company of trust and with whom the Nepalese Royal Family have never had any
previous, personal or business relationship with. That person will assist in the transfer and
business re-investment of this money. We cannot do it alone due to our present social status. We
also intend to give you a reasonable share of the funds for your assistance. These funds have been
hidden away, known only to his fiancée and myself. We would want you to safeguard this fund from
being clamped down by any body or agencies.

As soon as we receive your letter of acceptance/acknowledgement, I shall give you more highlights
on this transaction.

THIS IS A RISK FREE TRANSACTION AND MUST NOT BE REVILED TO ANYONE NOT EVEN YOUR LAWYER, ATTORNEY,
FAMILY, FRIENDS ETC. If you are capable and trust worthy and can keep to our instructions to make
the above Proposal a reality.
Then CONTACT US IMMEDIATELY ONLY THROUGH OUR CONFIDENTIAL U.K FAX NUMBER: 44-870-1309342 AS
INDICATED ABOVE 

DO NOT REPLY US BY EMAIL. Please indicate in your reply your PERSONAL/CONFIDENTIAL TELEPHONE
NUMBERS, CELLULAR OR MOBILE NUMBER, CONFIDENTIAL FAX NUMBER AND YOUR CONFIDENTIAL EMAIL ADDRESS
when replying.

ONCE AGAIN, PLEASE DO NOT REPLY BY EMAIL. Your  Reply Should be by Fax only to 44-870-1309342 
(United kingdom)



GOD BLESS YOU.

Yuvraj Kailash

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@ 2002-08-09  4:06 Stanley Udoh
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                          STANLEY UDOH          
                                                                          
                                                                         
Tel: 234- 80 - 33185767
                                                                          
                                                                         
Fax: 234-1- 7599446
                                                                          
                                                                         
jconnect2002@yahoo.com

										
									      9TH JULY, 2002
Dear Sir,
 
EXTREMELY BUSINESS TRANSACTION
RE: REMITTANCE OF US$50,500,000 MILLION INTO PRIVATE/COMPANY ACCOUNT .

We are compelled to contact you on this business proposal which will
certainly boost our financial stands when concluded.

We are top Federal Government officials with the Nigeria National
Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) and also members of the 
contract review committee responsible for the award of all Federal
Government Contracts .
In collaboration with my colleagues, we propose to remit the sum of
US$50,500,000 Million (Fifty Million five hundred 
thousand US Dollars) into a reliable foreign account and later invest some
part of this funds into a lucrative business in your 
country. 

SOURCE OF THE FUND

This amount was derived from over invoiced contract value on various
contracts awarded by the Nigerian National 
Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) to foreign contractors which have been
successfully executed and the original contractors 
duly paid.

This over inflated amount is now in suspense account of the Nigerian
National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC) awaiting for 
proper documentation for remittance into a reliable foreign bank account,
We have unanimously agreed to allocate you 
15% of this fund for providing the foreign bank where this fund will be
remitted.

Equally, we have set aside 10% for local and international expenses, while
75% is for us and 15% for you. You should 
indicate your interest in assisting us to achieve this great objective to
enable us put payment claims in other to effect 
remittance of the fund into your account , You should send urgently the
following to the above number:

A. 	Account Name/Address, Fax/Phone Number of your Bank , Your account
number.
B.	Your private Fax/Telephone Respectively.

On the receipt of these vital requirements from you, We shall quickly
contact the concerned Federal Government  
Agencies for speedy approvals of the payment .This transaction is very
urgent and sensitive . In view of this fact, we have 
decided that it will last for (14) working days from the receipt of the
above named requirements. 

We shall use a greater part of our share for investment in your country as
to be directed by you. You are assured of a hitch 
free transaction as we solicit for your adequate assistance. Honest and
maximum cooperation . You should maintain strict 
confidentiality of this business.

We look forward to receiving your positive response through the Fax number
above .

Thanks,

STANLEY UDOH.

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@ 2002-08-09 15:57 nOrh Loudspeaker
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For more details, check out http://www.norh.com/norhtec/index.html. 

For the past year, I have been working on ideas to improve computing. Most
computer companies continue to focus on making computers either less
expensive or more powerful. In the process, they tend to forget the user.
I have spent the past 20 years working in 
the computer industry. Last year, I decided to take my experience and
build products that will change the way computers are used.
There are many applications for computers where the computer performs a
single task. This includes gateways, firewalls, routers, point of sale,
kiosks, facility management, reservation systems and so on. I continue to
see PCs used in stores as cash registers where 
the computers still boot from a floppy. There are many applications where
a small, energy efficient, x86 (Pentium class) computer
could take the place of larger and more complicated systems. For
applications that are still MS DOS based, it would be easy to migrate
these solutions to solid state devices. These will boot faster and have
fewer problems.

I recently received a call from a company that installs highway signs.
They told me that the signs are controlled by PCs that are attached to
modems. The systems boot off of floppies. The computers hang frequently
because they generate too much heat in the signs. 
The floppies fail frequently and require frequent service calls. Such an
application would be ideal for our Microservers.  NorhTec has developed
the ideal replacement for dedicated PCs. NorhTec Microservers are fully
integrated, inexpensive, energy efficient and 
highly reliable. 

In addition to our Microservers, NorhTec has also developed what we
consider the ideal office and home desktop, the Panda PC. The Panda PC is
a small form factor computer that requires no fan for the CPU or the power
supply. The Panda PC is small, quiet and 
energy efficient. The Panda PC is better integrated than virtually an
other PC available. While most computers use very inexpensive parts, the
Panda PC uses some of the finest components available. Instead of a
standard CD ROM that comes in most PCs, the 
Panda PC includes a slimline DVD that can also record CDRs and CDRWs.
Because we can create CDROMs, we have taken out the useless floppy. Of
course slimline devices are more expensive. Of course the combination of a
DVD and CDRW is also more 
expensive. We believe that the our choice makes the Panda PC a much better
desktop than. The Panda PC will offer a choice of Windows XP or a special
version of Linux. Both version will be preconfigured with useful open
source applications such as office 
suites, browsers, viewers and multimedia players.



Our Linux offering will feature keystroke and mouse click compatibility to
Microsoft Windows. For example, you can share files by right clicking on
the file and selecting "share this file". You can adjust the screen
resolution the same way you do on a Microsoft 
Windows desktops. The ICONs will look very familiar with MY COMPUTER and
MY NETWORK NEIGHBORHOOD making the environment very familar to Windows
users.

For customers who already have licenses for or willing to purchase
licenses for Microsoft Office, we can host these applications and other
popular Microsoft Windows applications on Linux. For a slightly extra fee,
we will install to authorized customers, Winword, 
Outlook, Excel, Internet Explorer 5.5, Microsoft Media Player 6.4, Access,
and Power Point. We can also install Lotus Notes and several other
packages. 

Recently, I read about a large chain that was selling PCs for $299.95.
This is the lowest price for a standard PC in the United States. This
configuration included 128 MB RAM and 10 GB disk. To upgrade to 256 MB RAM
and 20 GB disk, the price was $595.95.

This price included a full size CD ROM. A DVD player would be extra as
would a CDRW. The Panda PC will sell for $495.95 with 256 MB RAM, 20 GB
disk, and our DVD/CDRW combination. The Panda PC uses less power,
generates less heat and takes less 
space than virtually any other fully configured desktop.
Additionally, the Panda PC is one of the first computers to operate either
AC or DC. Some smaller computers cheat by using an external power supply
(ala laptop). Our power supply is built into the case. The power supply
will switch between 12 and 24 volts DC and 
120 and 240 AC. This is one of the first computers that is ideal to be
powered in a vehicle, battery or solar power.

It can cost $1,000 per desktop just to buy the windowing system and the
office suite. We will deliver a computer that is fully configured with
Linux and a fully functional office suite for the price of the hardware.
This will not be a "hacker style" system. The system will 
be expertly configured so that it is one of the easiest to use systems you
have ever used.  The Panda PC does not need a fan for normal operation.
However, we have put an 82 mm fan inside just in case. The fan is attached
to a circuit that measure the temperature 
and will go on only if the temperature reaches a preset temperature. An 82
mm fan is much quieter than the smaller fans used on processors, video
cards and power supplies. Additionally, we have positioned the fan so that
even if the fan is activated, it will create 
very little turbulence. 

Our goal is to create the friendliest computer possible. NorhTec will
offer a variety of components to make networking easier than ever before.
We have selected networking strategies that make networking computers as
easy as possible. In most cases, you simply 
connect the networking cable and boot the computer. We have preconfigured
microservers and Pandas to perform specific tasks such as firewall,
gateway, printer server, and desktop. I personally think we have developed
the best networking strategies for the 
home and office. Our strategies include wired and wireless LANs. 

While we are a couple of months away from delivering products, we would
like to invite you to consult with us before you upgrade those power
hungry, energy inefficient, aging computers in your office. I can show you
how to replace these with systems that are far 
friendlier and much less expensive to operate. 

Sincerely,

Michael C. Barnes
President
NorhTec Microservers

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* (no subject)
@ 2002-08-10 17:16 Richard Stallman
  2002-08-10 17:51 ` Simon Josefsson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2002-08-10 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw)


I sent this request for the first time about two weeks ago, but I have
not heard from anyone.  I need help to make the new Emacs manual good.
Please do check part of the manual, and then please tell me about it.


I have updated the Emacs Manual for all the features listed in NEWS.
That is, I added documentation of these features--there might be other
parts of the manual that are no longer accurate and need correction.

Can people please try reading a chapter or file of the manual,
looking for anything that is incorrect or ought to be changed?
Whether it is a misspelled word, or incorrect grammar, or unclear
text, or a statement that used to be true but isn't true now,
please report it to me.

Please tell me which chapter or file you read, so I can check
coverage.  If you can do more than one chapter or file,
that would be good too.

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* Re: (no subject)
  2002-08-10 17:16 Richard Stallman
@ 2002-08-10 17:51 ` Simon Josefsson
  2002-08-11  3:56   ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Simon Josefsson @ 2002-08-10 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

> I have updated the Emacs Manual for all the features listed in NEWS.

I did not read a chapter in particular, but I searched for
documentation related to fringes and found that the elisp manual
doesn't document the left-fringe and right-fringe frame parameters.

(I read the Emacs 21.3 RC info files, which doesn't seem to be synched
with HEAD, I'm not sure which one you wanted us to read.)

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* Re: (no subject)
  2002-08-10 17:51 ` Simon Josefsson
@ 2002-08-11  3:56   ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2002-08-11  3:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

    I did not read a chapter in particular, but I searched for
    documentation related to fringes and found that the elisp manual
    doesn't document the left-fringe and right-fringe frame parameters.

I haven't updated the Emacs Lisp Manual, just the Emacs Manual.

The version I'd like people to read are the one in the trunk.

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* (no subject)
@ 2002-08-30 13:23 Dhruva Krishnamurthy
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Dhruva Krishnamurthy @ 2002-08-30 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Emacs Devel

Hi,
 The latest promotion fails to compile on W2K using MinGW32 (gcc) with
 the following message.

with regards,
dhruva

xdisp.c: In function `get_window_cursor_type':
xdisp.c:15330: structure has no member named `x_highlight_frame'
gmake[1]: *** [oo-spd/i386/xdisp.o] Error 1
gmake[1]: Leaving directory `D:/tmp/emacs/emacs/src'
gmake: *** [all-other-dirs-gmake] Error 2


-- 
Dhruva Krishnamurthy
Home: http://www.geocities.com/gnued/

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* Re: (no subject)
       [not found] <mailman.1031207825.3342.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
@ 2002-09-05 10:11 ` Peter Wu
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Peter Wu @ 2002-09-05 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw)


"nitin kapoor" <n_kapoors@rediffmail.com> wrote:

> please unsuscribe me from your list.

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* Text mode menu wishlist
@ 2002-09-09 15:53 Sacha Chua
  2002-09-09 17:27 ` Alex Schroeder
  2002-09-09 23:34 ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Sacha Chua @ 2002-09-09 15:53 UTC (permalink / raw)



The EmacsWiki has a new node: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TextMenu

---
We need a good replacement for tmm (f10) which does not confuse the
blind. A start is available as Lisp:textmenu.el. Read the
documentation for define-key and improve it.
---
Please define "confuse the blind." I need to know what people like or
don't like about tmm.el and textmenu.el. I have copious amounts of
free time and quite a great bit of interest in making this
work. Personal itches: changing keymaps and losing the ability to C-h
k.
--- (me)

I'd like to know people's thoughts on this. You can either add to the wiki,
post to emacs-devel or e-mail me directly, and I'll keep the wiki page updated. =)

-- 
Sacha Chua <sacha@free.net.ph> - 4 BS CS Ateneo geekette
interests: emacs, gnu/linux, wearables, teaching compsci

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* Re: Text mode menu wishlist
  2002-09-09 15:53 Text mode menu wishlist Sacha Chua
@ 2002-09-09 17:27 ` Alex Schroeder
  2002-09-10  1:45   ` Sacha Chua
  2002-09-09 23:34 ` Richard Stallman
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Alex Schroeder @ 2002-09-09 17:27 UTC (permalink / raw)


Sacha Chua <sacha@free.net.ph> writes:

> I'd like to know people's thoughts on this. You can either add to
> the wiki, post to emacs-devel or e-mail me directly, and I'll keep
> the wiki page updated. =)

People like me would like a simple buffer where we can use up and down
and RET to select a menu entry.  This can be done in Lisp and works
for me.

Other people would like to see "real" menus in the console, but that
requires messing with the C code.  The basic stuff is already there in
the MSDOS port (which has "real" menus), all we need is to do is port
that to curses or something.  I think this would also work for the
blind which will probably use emacs -nw anyway.  But it would not be
enough for me if I wanted to use a buffer-based menu eventhough I am
running X.

Alex.

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* Re: Text mode menu wishlist
  2002-09-09 15:53 Text mode menu wishlist Sacha Chua
  2002-09-09 17:27 ` Alex Schroeder
@ 2002-09-09 23:34 ` Richard Stallman
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2002-09-09 23:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

Could you possibly get textmenu.el and email me a copy?

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* Re: Text mode menu wishlist
  2002-09-09 17:27 ` Alex Schroeder
@ 2002-09-10  1:45   ` Sacha Chua
  2002-09-10  7:41     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
  2002-09-10 18:15     ` Text mode menu wishlist Alex Schroeder
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Sacha Chua @ 2002-09-10  1:45 UTC (permalink / raw)


Alex Schroeder <alex@emacswiki.org> writes:

> People like me would like a simple buffer where we can use up and down
> and RET to select a menu entry.  This can be done in Lisp and works
> for me.

tmm does that, doesn't it? Or, well, it uses the history mechanism,
and you can pageup to get to the completion buffer...

> Other people would like to see "real" menus in the console, but that
> requires messing with the C code.  The basic stuff is already there in

I can start studying ncurses and the Emacs C code if people feel that this is
important enough. =) 

> blind which will probably use emacs -nw anyway.  But it would not be
> enough for me if I wanted to use a buffer-based menu eventhough I am
> running X.

What would an ideal buffer-based menu be for you?  Simple buffer, up
and down and ret, tab, mouse clicks, ability to go up to the parent
menu.. what else? =)

-- 
Sacha Chua <sacha@free.net.ph> - 4 BS CS Ateneo geekette
interests: emacs, gnu/linux, wearables, teaching compsci

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* Re: Text mode menu wishlist
  2002-09-10  1:45   ` Sacha Chua
@ 2002-09-10  7:41     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
  2002-09-10  7:48       ` Miles Bader
  2002-09-10 18:15     ` Text mode menu wishlist Alex Schroeder
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Thien-Thi Nguyen @ 2002-09-10  7:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

Sacha Chua <sacha@free.net.ph> writes:

   I can start studying ncurses and the Emacs C code if people feel that
   this is important enough. =)

perhaps you can kill two birds w/ one stone by prototyping using
guile-ncurses, q.v.

thi

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* Re: Text mode menu wishlist
  2002-09-10  7:41     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
@ 2002-09-10  7:48       ` Miles Bader
  2002-09-10  8:35         ` (no subject) Thien-Thi Nguyen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Miles Bader @ 2002-09-10  7:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Sacha Chua, emacs-devel

Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@glug.org> writes:
>    I can start studying ncurses and the Emacs C code if people feel that
>    this is important enough. =)
> 
> perhaps you can kill two birds w/ one stone by prototyping using
> guile-ncurses, q.v.

Um, emacs doesn't use curses.

You probably want to do this at the emacs glyph-matrix level.

-Miles
-- 
Suburbia: where they tear out the trees and then name streets after them.

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* (no subject)
  2002-09-10  7:48       ` Miles Bader
@ 2002-09-10  8:35         ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
  2002-09-10  8:47           ` none Miles Bader
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Thien-Thi Nguyen @ 2002-09-10  8:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: sacha, emacs-devel

   From: Miles Bader <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp>
   Date: 10 Sep 2002 16:48:40 +0900

   Um, emacs doesn't use curses.

   You probably want to do this at the emacs glyph-matrix level.

sorry, i thought we were talking about text menus.
(however, note the weasle-word "prototyping". :-)

thi

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* Re: none
  2002-09-10  8:35         ` (no subject) Thien-Thi Nguyen
@ 2002-09-10  8:47           ` Miles Bader
  2002-09-10 13:56             ` none Sacha Chua
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Miles Bader @ 2002-09-10  8:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: sacha, emacs-devel

Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@giblet.glug.org> writes:
>    Um, emacs doesn't use curses.
> 
>    You probably want to do this at the emacs glyph-matrix level.
> 
> sorry, i thought we were talking about text menus.

We were (or at least I was).

-Miles
-- 
`The suburb is an obsolete and contradictory form of human settlement'

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* Re: none
  2002-09-10  8:47           ` none Miles Bader
@ 2002-09-10 13:56             ` Sacha Chua
  2002-09-10 23:25               ` none Miles Bader
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Sacha Chua @ 2002-09-10 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw)


Miles Bader <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp> writes:

>>    Um, emacs doesn't use curses.
>>    You probably want to do this at the emacs glyph-matrix level.
>> sorry, i thought we were talking about text menus.
> We were (or at least I was).

I am definitely talking about text menus. =) I use emacspeak -nw often
(inside screen), and I rely on the keyboard a lot. Besides, how can I
use Emacs' funky mouse-friendly menus if I don't have graphical output
or an easy to use mouse? =)

Right now I'm studying textmenu and tmm, trying to figure out what
kind of a menu system I really want. I guess most people don't think
tmm is broken (it's actually quite nice), but I wonder if it can be
improved. I'll go into hermit mode now and experiment with ways to do
so. Thanks for the input, and feel free to send more suggestions! 

-- 
Sacha Chua <sacha@free.net.ph> - 4 BS CS Ateneo geekette
interests: emacs, gnu/linux, wearables, teaching compsci

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* Re: Text mode menu wishlist
  2002-09-10  1:45   ` Sacha Chua
  2002-09-10  7:41     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
@ 2002-09-10 18:15     ` Alex Schroeder
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Alex Schroeder @ 2002-09-10 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)


Sacha Chua <sacha@free.net.ph> writes:

>> People like me would like a simple buffer where we can use up and down
>> and RET to select a menu entry.  This can be done in Lisp and works
>> for me.
>
> tmm does that, doesn't it? Or, well, it uses the history mechanism,
> and you can pageup to get to the completion buffer...

I dunno wether it does.  I just tried it and indeed it seems to go
"up" in the menu.  But I find it confusing.  It was so confusing, in
fact, that I understood it only after you told me.  :)  Part of this
problem is perhaps the multi-column display, and the lack of a
"selection" in the buffer.  All the activity is in the minibuffer.

>> Other people would like to see "real" menus in the console, but that
>> requires messing with the C code.  The basic stuff is already there in
>
> I can start studying ncurses and the Emacs C code if people feel
> that this is important enough. =)

I think Mario Lang already has a bunch of mails talking about the
basics of this.  Perhaps he can give you some more information.

> What would an ideal buffer-based menu be for you?  Simple buffer, up
> and down and ret, ability to go up to the parent menu

Yes

> tab

Hm, how would that work, as "next"?  I would not care about that (but
I would expect there to be a textmenu-mode-map I could change).

> mouse clicks

Not really -- if I expected that, I could have used the real menu.

Alex.

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* Re: none
  2002-09-10 13:56             ` none Sacha Chua
@ 2002-09-10 23:25               ` Miles Bader
  2002-09-30  5:59                 ` none Sacha Chua
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Miles Bader @ 2002-09-10 23:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 09:56:55PM +0800, Sacha Chua wrote:
> Right now I'm studying textmenu and tmm, trying to figure out what
> kind of a menu system I really want. I guess most people don't think
> tmm is broken (it's actually quite nice), but I wonder if it can be
> improved.

I think tmm is `broken' too, because:

(1) It operates differently from other menus so it's bound to confuse
    beginners.

(2) Even once I got used to it a bit, I still found it very awkward to use:

    (a) Moving between menus and sub-menus (it just replaces the contents of
    	the `menu buffer') is way too heavy-weight. A typical drop-down menu
    	implementation allows you to quickly scan through submenus seeing
    	what's there, while also preserving all the `parent context' for you
    	to see.

    (b) The arrangement of menu items in the buffer seems often hard to read
        quickly.

    (c) I find the way the user-input (in the minibuffer) works annoying.  I
	don't really like using completion when choosing from a small set of
	displayed items (because doing so requires me to stop and think about
	which key to type corresponds to which displayed), I'd rather just
	select directly from the list.  You can scroll through the list in
	the minibuffer using direction keys, but the `disconnected' nature of
	it makes this awkward; it would be _much_ better to just manipulate a
	cursor in the displayed list directly (you can do this sort of by
	switching to the menu-window, but (1) that's an irritating extra step
	you have to take, and (2) moving between menu-items once you're there
	is still slow and clumsy [e.g., the huge initial comment that has to
	be skipped, the double-column arrangement of items]

    [I imagine that if you're using emacs-speak, BTW, you might disagree about
    some of this]

(3) It's ugly as hell.   Bleah.

-Miles
-- 
Occam's razor split hairs so well, I bought the whole argument!

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* Re: none
  2002-09-10 23:25               ` none Miles Bader
@ 2002-09-30  5:59                 ` Sacha Chua
  2002-10-01  6:18                   ` none Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Sacha Chua @ 2002-09-30  5:59 UTC (permalink / raw)


Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org> writes:

>     (a) Moving between menus and sub-menus (it just replaces the contents of
>     	the `menu buffer') is way too heavy-weight. A typical drop-down menu
>     	implementation allows you to quickly scan through submenus seeing

Do you think it might be nice to have trees or outlines for menus,
like the way customize-browse does it? That seems like a fairly good
way of mimicking drop-down menus. Of course, there's something to be
said about native menus, but I think that native menus have been
discussed on this list before and there's probably a good reason why
we're still not using them.

> 	select directly from the list.  You can scroll through the list in
> 	the minibuffer using direction keys, but the `disconnected' nature of

tmm allows me to cycle through menu items in the minibuffer by
pressing the up and down arrow keys. This seems to make sense, and
it's actually quite usable with Emacspeak. I still don't like how
accelerators change if something gets added to the menu, and the fact
that there seems to be no easy way to go back to the previous menu,
but it's actually more usable than I thought.

It might be nice to see ido-like functionality in the menu, though. =)
That would be, like, fun!

-- 
Sacha Chua <sacha@free.net.ph> - 4 BS CS Ateneo geekette
interests: emacs, gnu/linux, wearables, teaching compsci

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* Re: none
  2002-09-30  5:59                 ` none Sacha Chua
@ 2002-10-01  6:18                   ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2002-10-01  6:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

    Of course, there's something to be
    said about native menus, but I think that native menus have been
    discussed on this list before and there's probably a good reason why
    we're still not using them.

If "native menus" means displaying something on the tty that looks
like a pull-down menu and letting the user move through it,
the reason we are not using them is that nobody has implemented them.
We would definitely like to switch to them, but it takes work,
so the question is who wants to do the work.

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* (no subject)
  2002-11-06 12:40 ` Kim F. Storm
@ 2002-11-07  8:08   ` Kenichi Handa
  2002-11-08 12:06     ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Kenichi Handa @ 2002-11-07  8:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: eliz, monnier+gnu/emacs, emacs-devel

In article <5xbs52oor1.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk>, storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:
> Are there any of the on-going tasks which *must be* completed before
> we release 21.4 ?

(1) I'm working on fixing ps-print and ps-mule so that
non-ASCII characters in a buffer name can also be converted
to correct PostScript code.   I think I can find time to
finish it by the end of this month.

(2) I've just installed an automatic character composition
mechanism in emacs-unicode branch.  It works like font-lock.
I think it is worth back-porting to HEAD because it is very
convenient for such scripts that require complicated
displaying (thai, lao, devanagari, tibetan).  But, It seems
that I don't have enough time to do that.  Aren't there any
volunteer?

(3) Currently, one person is working on Malayalam support in
emacs-unicode.  It is also worth back-poring to HEAD.  But,
as it is just adding a new language support, it may be
possible to add it even after feature freeze.

---
Ken'ichi HANDA
handa@m17n.org

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* Re: (no subject)
  2002-11-07  8:08   ` (no subject) Kenichi Handa
@ 2002-11-08 12:06     ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2002-11-08 12:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: storm, eliz, monnier+gnu/emacs, emacs-devel

    (2) I've just installed an automatic character composition
    mechanism in emacs-unicode branch.  It works like font-lock.
    I think it is worth back-porting to HEAD

Why bother?  We could just wait till we adopt the Unicode changes
and we will get to the same place.

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* (no subject)
@ 2002-11-23 12:11 jeanmax laborie
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: jeanmax laborie @ 2002-11-23 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw)


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* (No Subject)
@ 2003-06-11 22:56 Jessy Fershun
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Jessy Fershun @ 2003-06-11 22:56 UTC (permalink / raw)


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* (no subject)
@ 2003-08-10  0:05 shuki_duv
  2003-08-11 12:53 ` Richard Stallman
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From: shuki_duv @ 2003-08-10  0:05 UTC (permalink / raw)


I noticed this in one of the first Emacs 21 releases, and it is still
in 21.3.1 - in bytecomp.el, `byte-compile-file':
  (while file-exists-p target-file)
    ;; Remove the target before writing it, so that any
    ;; hard-links continue to point to the old file (this makes
    ;; it possible for installed files to share disk space with
    ;; the build tree, without causing problems when emacs-lisp
    ;; files in the build tree are recompiled).
    (delete-file target-file))

This is a hack for developers, and shouldn't be in the releases, in my
opinion. For example, it trashes the .elc file permissions, not to
speak about symlinks, etc.

Best regards,
Shuki


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* Re: (no subject)
  2003-08-10  0:05 shuki_duv
@ 2003-08-11 12:53 ` Richard Stallman
  2003-08-12 13:11   ` shuki_duv
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2003-08-11 12:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

      (while file-exists-p target-file)
	;; Remove the target before writing it, so that any
	;; hard-links continue to point to the old file (this makes
	;; it possible for installed files to share disk space with
	;; the build tree, without causing problems when emacs-lisp
	;; files in the build tree are recompiled).
	(delete-file target-file))

    This is a hack for developers, and shouldn't be in the releases, in my
    opinion. For example, it trashes the .elc file permissions, not to
    speak about symlinks, etc.

I think we need to keep this feature.

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* Re: (no subject)
  2003-08-11 12:53 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2003-08-12 13:11   ` shuki_duv
  2003-08-12 23:19     ` Miles Bader
       [not found]     ` <shuki_duv@yahoo.com>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: shuki_duv @ 2003-08-12 13:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
>>    (while file-exists-p target-file)
>> 	;; Remove the target before writing it, so that any
>> 	;; hard-links continue to point to the old file (this makes
>> 	;; it possible for installed files to share disk space with
>> 	;; the build tree, without causing problems when emacs-lisp
>> 	;; files in the build tree are recompiled).
>> 	(delete-file target-file))
>> 
>>    This is a hack for developers, and shouldn't be in the releases, in
>>    my opinion. For example, it trashes the .elc file permissions, not
to
>>    speak about symlinks, etc.
> 
> I think we need to keep this feature.

Of what use is it to users (as opposed to the developers)? On the other
hand, for example, I am maintaining an emacs configuration which is in
widespread use (via -u). My umask is 077, and whenever I recompile a file,
I need to change its .elc counterpart permissions back.

You could say that I should change the recompiling function, but in my
opinion, the UNIX way of rewriting files is in no need of questionable
improvements like these. At the least, one could ensure that the number of
hardlinks is more than one before erasing target-file.

Also, what if target-file is a symlink? In my opinion, this feature only
confuses matters.

Best regards,
Shuki

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* Re: (no subject)
  2003-08-12 13:11   ` shuki_duv
@ 2003-08-12 23:19     ` Miles Bader
       [not found]     ` <shuki_duv@yahoo.com>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Miles Bader @ 2003-08-12 23:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: rms, emacs-devel

On Tue, Aug 12, 2003 at 06:11:23AM -0700, shuki_duv@yahoo.com wrote:
> Of what use is it to users (as opposed to the developers)?

Even if one were to accept that the distinction were relevant, how, pray
tell, does emacs know which you are?  The very fact that you're compiling .el
file multiple times suggests that you, in fact, are actually more like a
`developer.'

In any case, I think the point is that emacs simply doesn't know what you
want, and can't, unless you tell it.  Perhaps something like a
`byte-compile-overwrite-output-file' could be added to do what you want.

> On the other hand, for example, I am maintaining an emacs configuration
> which is in widespread use (via -u). My umask is 077, and whenever I
> recompile a file, I need to change its .elc counterpart permissions back.

Writing a new file (as opposed to overwriting the old one) is very common
in unix tools (especially in emacs).  If you have set up your environment so
that this doesn't do what you want, you have to deal with the result yourself
(it's not like it's hard).

> Also, what if target-file is a symlink? In my opinion, this feature only
> confuses matters.

Relying on writing files through a symlink is similarly something you can't
rely on; you simply shouldn't do that in general.

-Miles
-- 
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* Re: (no subject)
       [not found]     ` <shuki_duv@yahoo.com>
@ 2003-08-14 12:35       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Thien-Thi Nguyen @ 2003-08-14 12:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: rms, emacs-devel

<shuki_duv@yahoo.com> writes:

   Of what use is it to users (as opposed to the developers)?

users opposing programmers is opposite of emacs' (and one could say
fsf's) appeal.  IME people who can't see it this way tend to make life
more difficult for those who can.

   Also, what if target-file is a symlink? In my opinion, this feature
   only confuses matters.

luckily, although matters may be confusing, in the end it is each person
who is or is not confused, individually.  i wouldn't wish my confusion
on anyone; i worked hard to acquire it!

thi

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* (no subject)
@ 2003-08-16  8:11 buger
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: buger @ 2003-08-16  8:11 UTC (permalink / raw)


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@ 2003-08-27  7:17 Saori Tsubochi
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From: Saori Tsubochi @ 2003-08-27  7:17 UTC (permalink / raw)





line--
This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation,
 not to your local site managers!!
Please write in English, because the Emacs maintainers do not have
translators to read other languages for them.

In GNU Emacs 20.7.2 (i386-vine-linux-gnu, X toolkit)
 of Mon Jun 19 2000 on guin
configured using `configure  --prefix=/usr --libexecdir=/usr/lib --infodir=/usr/info --x-includes=/usr/include --x-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib --with-x-toolkit=athena i386-vine-linux'

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:




Recent input:
g i n SPC ESC ` [ ESC O A ESC O D ESC O D RET C-x C-s 
C-x C-s ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC 
O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A 
ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC 
O A ESC O A ESC O A ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B ESC O B 
ESC O B s

Recent messages:
Command attempted to use minibuffer while in minibuffer
No mark set in this buffer
Beginning of history; no preceding item [2 times]
End of history; no default available
Command attempted to use minibuffer while in minibuffer
Type C-h for help. [21 times]
Beginning of history; no preceding item
End of history; no default available [10 times]
End of buffer
Command attempted to use minibuffer while in minibuffer [3 times]

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* (no subject)
@ 2003-09-16 16:55 Matthieu ROCHE 
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Matthieu ROCHE  @ 2003-09-16 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)


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Hello,

I face a strange problem with Emacs 21.2. I'm running Debian Woody 3.0r0 as Linux distro, and when I launch Emacs
under my user account, it doesn't work. KDE gives up the launch after 30 seconds or so, and Konsole tells me that
there are the following problems :

Warning : locale not supported by C library- locale unchanged
No fonts match '-*-*-medium-r-normal--14-*-*-*-c-*-iso8859-15'

The thing is Emacs is working great under root account. So I don't have any idea where the problem can come from.
If someone has an answer to my problem, please help me... Thank you

Matthieu

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* (no subject)
@ 2003-09-18 22:40 george mbulu
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: george mbulu @ 2003-09-18 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw)


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cared for. But now I regret all this as I now know
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good deeds I do on earth. So far, I have distributed
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* (no subject)
@ 2003-10-02 19:34 Chenna Arnoori
  2003-10-03 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Chenna Arnoori @ 2003-10-02 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)



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Hi all,

 I am very impressed with the emacs . I got a question in c-mode.

How can I  see the proto type of the  c - function while I am typing the
function name. 
Let me give an example .
I f I type strncpy then  i want to see the function proto-type in mode line
or in bubble window .. which can help me to pass the arguments correctly.

Please  help me on  how to do the above.







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* Re: (no subject)
  2003-10-02 19:34 Chenna Arnoori
@ 2003-10-03 18:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2003-10-03 18:47 UTC (permalink / raw)


> From: Chenna Arnoori <ChennaA@ami.com>
> Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2003 15:34:50 -0400
> 
> I f I type strncpy then  i want to see the function proto-type in mode line
> or in bubble window .. which can help me to pass the arguments correctly.

With the cursor on "strncpy", type "M-x man RET RET", and Emacs will
show you the man page of `strncpy' that includes its prototype.

On GNU/Linux systems, type "C-h TAB" with the cursor on "strncpy",
and Emacs will display the Info docs for that function.

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* (no subject)
@ 2003-10-16  4:53 Yamamoto Mai
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Yamamoto Mai @ 2003-10-16  4:53 UTC (permalink / raw)


In GNU Emacs 19.34.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6, X toolkit) of Tue May 11 1999 on astram
configured using `configure  sparc-sun-solaris2.6 --prefix=/usr/local --with-wnn6 --with-wnn-includes=/usr/local/include --with-wnn-libraries=/usr/local/lib --with-x --with-x-toolkit --x-includes=/usr/local/X11R6.3/include --x-libraries=/usr/local/X11R6.3/lib'

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:


Recent input:
backspace backspace backspace backspace backspace backspace 
backspace backspace backspace backspace backspace backspace 
backspace backspace backspace backspace backspace backspace 
backspace backspace backspace backspace backspace backspace 
backspace backspace backspace backspace backspace s 
h i m i z u @ c s . h i r o s h i m a - c u . a c . 
j p C-c C-c C-c C-c c c backspace backspace down-mouse-1 
mouse-movement mouse-movement mouse-movement mouse-movement 
mouse-movement mouse-movement mouse-movement mouse-movement 
mouse-movement mouse-movement mouse-movement drag-mouse-1 
down-mouse-1 mouse-1 down-mouse-1 mouse-movement mouse-1 
down-mouse-1 drag-mouse-1 down-mouse-1 drag-mouse-1 
down-mouse-1 mouse-1 double-down-mouse-1 double-mouse-1 
triple-down-mouse-1 triple-mouse-1 triple-down-mouse-1 
triple-mouse-1 menu-bar help-menu report-emacs-bug 
return

Recent messages:
Auto-saving...
Auto-saving...done
Auto-saving...
Auto-saving...done
Sending...
Sending...done
The mark is not set now
Minibuffer window is not active [2 times]
End of buffer
Minibuffer window is not active [7 times]
Minibuffer window is not active

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* (no subject)
@ 2003-11-04 21:04 Nathalie Glashow
  2003-11-04 22:29 ` Dan Anderson
  2003-11-05  8:38 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Nathalie Glashow @ 2003-11-04 21:04 UTC (permalink / raw)


I appreciate any help in advance.

I am running Windows XP and would like to run emacs for Windows.  I
downloaded the source from
http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/emacs-21.3.tar.gz.  However once
extracted there was no .exe file at all.  I then went to
http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/windows/emacs/21.3/ but also did not find any
*.exe files in there.  Can someone please let me know where and how I
can get emacs installed on my machine?  I have successfully done this in
the past with another Windows box, but the sources I downloaded then
contained the runemacs.exe file.  I must be downloading the wrong
tarball from the wrong site.  Can someone please redirect me to the
right place?  Thanks for your time.  

Nathalie Glashow

Kind Regards,

Nathalie Glashow
Systems Consultant
I T Systems & Consulting
631-293-8600 X 117
631-293-8165 Fax
nglashow@itsgny.com 
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* Re: (no subject)
  2003-11-04 21:04 Nathalie Glashow
@ 2003-11-04 22:29 ` Dan Anderson
  2003-11-05 16:08   ` Arthur Davis
  2003-11-05  8:38 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Dan Anderson @ 2003-11-04 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: help-gnu-emacs

You see how everything ends in a .README?  It's text files telling you
that because the GNU server was hacked and the sources for emacs
couldn't be verified, they have removed them until a security audit or
something is over.

Read the READMEs for more info

-Dan

On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 16:04, Nathalie Glashow wrote:
> I appreciate any help in advance.
> 
> I am running Windows XP and would like to run emacs for Windows.  I
> downloaded the source from
> http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/emacs-21.3.tar.gz.  However once
> extracted there was no .exe file at all.  I then went to
> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/windows/emacs/21.3/ but also did not find any
> *.exe files in there.  Can someone please let me know where and how I
> can get emacs installed on my machine?  I have successfully done this in
> the past with another Windows box, but the sources I downloaded then
> contained the runemacs.exe file.  I must be downloading the wrong
> tarball from the wrong site.  Can someone please redirect me to the
> right place?  Thanks for your time.  
> 
> Nathalie Glashow
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Nathalie Glashow
> Systems Consultant
> I T Systems & Consulting
> 631-293-8600 X 117
> 631-293-8165 Fax
> nglashow@itsgny.com 
> www.itsgny.com
> 
> ITSG wins Novell's 2002 Service Excellence Award
> http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-05-2002/0001777350&EDATE=
> 
>  
> Novell + I T Systems = Success for NYC Dept. of Health
> See the video at http://www.itsgny.com/dohvideo/
> 
> 
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* (no subject)
  2003-11-04 21:04 Nathalie Glashow
  2003-11-04 22:29 ` Dan Anderson
@ 2003-11-05  8:38 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Gian Uberto Lauri @ 2003-11-05  8:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: help-gnu-emacs

>>>>> "NG" == Nathalie Glashow <nglashow@itsgny.com> writes:

NG> http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/emacs-21.3.tar.gz. 

Source code... I think it should compile with mingw

NG> http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/windows/emacs/21.3/

There should be the links AFAIK.

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* Re: (no subject)
  2003-11-04 22:29 ` Dan Anderson
@ 2003-11-05 16:08   ` Arthur Davis
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Arthur Davis @ 2003-11-05 16:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: Nathalie Glashow, help-gnu-emacs

How about Cygwin?  They have a pre-built version of emacs that you can
find by running their installer.  It is at:
http://sources.redhat.com/cygwin/
Click on one of the install now links and run the installer that it
downloads.  Emacs should be found under the editors category if I
remember correctly.

Arthur

Dan Anderson writes:
 > You see how everything ends in a .README?  It's text files telling you
 > that because the GNU server was hacked and the sources for emacs
 > couldn't be verified, they have removed them until a security audit or
 > something is over.
 > 
 > Read the READMEs for more info
 > 
 > -Dan
 > 
 > On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 16:04, Nathalie Glashow wrote:
 > > I appreciate any help in advance.
 > > 
 > > I am running Windows XP and would like to run emacs for Windows.  I
 > > downloaded the source from
 > > http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/emacs-21.3.tar.gz.  However once
 > > extracted there was no .exe file at all.  I then went to
 > > http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/windows/emacs/21.3/ but also did not find any
 > > *.exe files in there.  Can someone please let me know where and how I
 > > can get emacs installed on my machine?  I have successfully done this in
 > > the past with another Windows box, but the sources I downloaded then
 > > contained the runemacs.exe file.  I must be downloading the wrong
 > > tarball from the wrong site.  Can someone please redirect me to the
 > > right place?  Thanks for your time.  
 > > 
 > > Nathalie Glashow
 > > 
 > > Kind Regards,
 > > 
 > > Nathalie Glashow
 > > Systems Consultant
 > > I T Systems & Consulting
 > > 631-293-8600 X 117
 > > 631-293-8165 Fax
 > > nglashow@itsgny.com 
 > > www.itsgny.com
 > > 
 > > ITSG wins Novell's 2002 Service Excellence Award
 > > http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/08-05-2002/0001777350&EDATE=
 > > 
 > >  
 > > Novell + I T Systems = Success for NYC Dept. of Health
 > > See the video at http://www.itsgny.com/dohvideo/
 > > 
 > > 
 > > _______________________________________________
 > > Help-gnu-emacs mailing list
 > > Help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
 > > http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs
 > 
 > 
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* (no subject)
@ 2003-11-17  2:05 Luc Teirlinck
  2003-11-17  6:12 ` Jan D.
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Luc Teirlinck @ 2003-11-17  2:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

The changes in:

2003-11-16  Jan Djarv  <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>

do not seem to take the native scrollbar into account.  Configuring
without options works fine, but after:

./configure --without-toolkit-scroll-bars

bootstrapping still works fine, but when trying to start Emacs, I get
an immediate segfault:

[bash2.05b.0 ~ 3 1] gdb emacs-21.3.50
(gdb) run
Starting program: /usr/local/bin/emacs-21.3.50 

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x080bc5ff in x_window_to_scroll_bar (display=0x85f5ab8,
window_id=60817438)
    at xterm.c:3880
3880         if (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (XFRAME (frame)) != display)
(gdb) 


I do not know the code in question well enough to fix this myself.

Sincerely,

Luc.

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* Re: (no subject)
  2003-11-17  2:05 Luc Teirlinck
@ 2003-11-17  6:12 ` Jan D.
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Jan D. @ 2003-11-17  6:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

> The changes in:
> 
> 2003-11-16  Jan Djarv  <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
> 
> do not seem to take the native scrollbar into account.  Configuring
> without options works fine, but after:
> 
> ./configure --without-toolkit-scroll-bars
> 
> bootstrapping still works fine, but when trying to start Emacs, I get
> an immediate segfault:
> 
> [bash2.05b.0 ~ 3 1] gdb emacs-21.3.50
> (gdb) run
> Starting program: /usr/local/bin/emacs-21.3.50 
> 
> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 0x080bc5ff in x_window_to_scroll_bar (display=0x85f5ab8,
> window_id=60817438)
>     at xterm.c:3880
> 3880         if (FRAME_X_DISPLAY (XFRAME (frame)) != display)
> (gdb) 
> 

This was trying to fix the very rare case where you get
identical window id from two X displays.

I have checked in a better fix.  There are too many configurations to
test. :-(

Thanks,


	Jan D.

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In GNU Emacs 19.34.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.6, X toolkit) of Tue May 11 1999 on astram
configured using `configure  sparc-sun-solaris2.6 --prefix=/usr/local --with-wnn6 --with-wnn-includes=/usr/local/include --with-wnn-libraries=/usr/local/lib --with-x --with-x-toolkit --x-includes=/usr/local/X11R6.3/include --x-libraries=/usr/local/X11R6.3/lib'

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:













Recent input:
down-mouse-1 mouse-movement mouse-movement drag-mouse-1 
down-mouse-1 mouse-1 double-down-mouse-1 double-mouse-1 
triple-down-mouse-1 triple-mouse-1 triple-down-mouse-1 
triple-mouse-1 triple-down-mouse-1 triple-mouse-1 triple-down-mouse-1 
triple-mouse-1 down-mouse-1 mouse-movement mouse-1 
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triple-mouse-1 down-mouse-1 mouse-1 down-mouse-1 mouse-1 
down-mouse-1 mouse-1 down-mouse-1 mouse-1 double-down-mouse-1 
double-mouse-1 triple-down-mouse-1 triple-mouse-1 triple-down-mouse-1 
triple-mouse-1 triple-down-mouse-1 triple-mouse-1 down-mouse-1 
mouse-movement drag-mouse-1 down-mouse-1 mouse-1 double-down-mouse-1 
double-mouse-1 down-mouse-2 mouse-2 double-down-mouse-2 
double-mouse-2 down-mouse-2 mouse-2 double-down-mouse-2 
double-mouse-2 triple-down-mouse-2 triple-mouse-2 down-mouse-3 
mouse-3 down-mouse-3 mouse-3 double-down-mouse-3 double-mouse-3 
triple-down-mouse-3 triple-mouse-3 triple-down-mouse-3 
triple-mouse-3 triple-down-mouse-3 triple-mouse-3 triple-down-mouse-3 
triple-mouse-3 triple-down-mouse-3 triple-mouse-3 triple-down-mouse-3 
triple-mouse-3 down-mouse-3 mouse-3 double-down-mouse-3 
double-mouse-3 triple-down-mouse-3 triple-mouse-3 triple-down-mouse-3 
triple-mouse-3 down-mouse-3 mouse-3 double-down-mouse-3 
double-mouse-3 menu-bar help-menu report-emacs-bug 
down-mouse-1 mouse-movement mouse-movement drag-mouse-1 
down-mouse-1 mouse-movement mouse-1 backspace backspace 
backspace return

Recent messages:
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LOADING term/bobcat...done
Loading keyboard...
Loading keyboard...done
For information about the GNU Project and its goals, type C-h C-p.
Mark set [5 times]
Loading emacsbug...
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Hello,


I would like to change the color  of the Menu bar at the top of emacs.
I have looked for it in M-x display-faces-display.

I have a simular problem the the basic background color of the speedbar
window.

Does anyone know how to set these colors ?


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I usually do so: copy some text from other applcation(such as web browser), and copy this piece text into Emacs to replace a region of text. 

In Emacs, I ususally forget the operation sequence: copy text from other software to clipboard firstly, then
go to Emacs use C-k or C-w to delete the target text, then try to use yanking. But unfortunately, the yanking text is those by C-k or C-w, but not text I copied from software.

I do think "replace the target region text from clipboard" is the best and fastest operation to do this. But in emacs, how can I do it? or maybe, I must forget my orginal operation and be familiar emacs reqired?


Any hints?

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@ 2004-05-03  7:44 Nicole Delarosa
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@ 2004-05-04  6:54 Dhruva Krishnamurthy
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Hello,
 "nmake info" (and gmake info) fails on GNU Emacs CVS HEAD using MSVC6
 (MinGW32).
The problem is in:
1. cd emacs/man
2. nmake info (gmake info)

The error is:
for the command "./../nt/multi-install-info.bat", "." which represents
the current direcotry is not interpreted as it should be and gives an
error. 

    '.' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
    operable program or batch file.

Changing the above command to : ".\..\nt\multi-install-info.bat" works
for both nmake and gmake!

Here is the diff of original versus modified (is this the standard?):
emacs/man/makefile.w32-in

*** \tmp\cvs\emacs\man\makefile.w32-in  Mon May  3 16:51:32 2004
--- ..\man\makefile.w32-in      Tue May  4 12:21:54 2004
*************** infodir = $(srcdir)/../info
*** 30,36 ****

  # The makeinfo program is part of the Texinfo distribution.
  MAKEINFO = makeinfo
! MULTI_INSTALL_INFO = $(srcdir)/../nt/multi-install-info.bat
  INFO_TARGETS = $(infodir)/emacs $(infodir)/ccmode \
                $(infodir)/cl $(infodir)/dired-x \
                $(infodir)/ediff $(infodir)/forms \
--- 30,36 ----

  # The makeinfo program is part of the Texinfo distribution.
  MAKEINFO = makeinfo
! MULTI_INSTALL_INFO = $(srcdir)\..\nt\multi-install-info.bat
  INFO_TARGETS = $(infodir)/emacs $(infodir)/ccmode \
                $(infodir)/cl $(infodir)/dired-x \
                $(infodir)/ediff $(infodir)/forms \
________________________________________
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@ 2004-05-27 11:34 Stephan Stahl
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Hi.

Since i learned that M-n while doing completing-read and friends
brings up the default value and lets you edit it i used that feature
very often.

However it does not work in previous-matching-history-element (M-r
while the minibuffer is active). The following very simple patch
will do the trick.. Its much better that way.

Maybe someone wants to include that in emacs.

*** simple.el.1.644 Thu May 27 13:03:44 2004
--- simple.el.new Thu May 27 13:03:44 2004
***************
*** 933,939 ****
  					nil
  					minibuffer-local-map
  					nil
! 					'minibuffer-history-search-history)))
       ;; Use the last regexp specified, by default, if input is empty.
       (list (if (string= regexp "")
  	       (if minibuffer-history-search-history
--- 933,940 ----
  					nil
  					minibuffer-local-map
  					nil
! 					'minibuffer-history-search-history
! 					(car minibuffer-history-search-history))))
       ;; Use the last regexp specified, by default, if input is empty.
       (list (if (string= regexp "")
  	       (if minibuffer-history-search-history

-- 
Stephan Stahl

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在VI、标志、画册、产品包装、品牌策划等领域,拥有独特的创意和视角、专业
的制作和服务、优惠的价格,多年来一直为深圳乃直全国地区各类娱乐场所/宾馆/
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   您好!我们是深圳一家专业从事企业品牌推广、形象策划的设计型广告公司,
在VI、标志、画册、产品包装、品牌策划等领域,拥有独特的创意和视角、专业
的制作和服务、优惠的价格,多年来一直为深圳乃直全国地区各类娱乐场所/宾馆/
夜总会/酒吧/饭店/大卖场/连锁专卖店/各类餐饮业等行业树立优质形
象,打造精品品牌!!

承接以下项目:
1、全套形象品牌推广解决方案(CIS整体策划和设计、VI视觉识别系统、标志标识
   设计)、各类活动、展会的整体视觉设计。
2、平面设计制作及印刷一条龙服务:各种海报、宣传画册、彩页、杂志封面、
   包装、手提袋、礼品、大型电脑喷绘、霓虹灯、灯箱设计。

   拥有大量成功案例和作品!欢迎来电咨询!愿与企业或个人长期合作。

公司网站:http://www.taheda.com
联系人:曲先生 
手机:13714682806 
电话:0755-25806075
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@ 2004-06-09 15:21 Kazuto Asai
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From: Kazuto Asai @ 2004-06-09 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: k-asai

This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation,
 not to your local site managers!!
Please write in English, because the Emacs maintainers do not have
translators to read other languages for them.

In GNU Emacs 20.7.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8, X toolkit, emcws)
 of Sat Apr 13 2002 on sup-sun58
configured using `configure  --prefix=/usr/local/emacs20 --with-gcc --with-wnn --with-wnn-includes=/usr/local/lib/wnn6/include/wnn --with-wnn-libraries=/usr/local/lib/wnn6/lib --with-canna --with-canna-includes=/usr/local/canna/include --with-canna-libraries=/usr/local/canna/lib --with-x-toolkit=yes --with-x --disable-rename'

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:

Why I cannot input $ in Latex mode? Why it is forced not to type $? 
That's very absurd. 


Recent input:
up up up up up up up up up up down down down down down 
down down down down down down down down down down down 
left left left left left left return down down down 
down down up up up return return up up up up up up 
up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up 
up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up up 
up up up up up up up up down-mouse-1 mouse-movement 
mouse-1 menu-bar help-menu emacs-version menu-bar help-menu 
report-emacs-bug

Recent messages:
Loading browse-url...done
Loading goto-addr...
Loading goto-addr...done
Loading metamail...
Loading metamail...done
Creating group...
Creating group...done
GNU Emacs 20.7.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8, X toolkit, emcws) of Sat Apr 13 2002 on sup-sun58
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I always meet this problem when I install emacs 21.2 to my sunos server.

What is the prolbem?thanks!

 

 

In file included from /usr/openwin/include/X11/Xos.h:81,

                 from xlwmenu.c:32:

/usr/include/strings.h:25: conflicting types for `memmove'

/usr/include/iso/string_iso.h:62: previous declaration of `memmove'

/usr/include/strings.h:26: parse error before numeric constant

make[2]: *** [xlwmenu.o] Error 1

make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/student/fanjf/tools/emacs-21.2/lwlib'

make[1]: *** [really-lwlib] Error 2

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/student/fanjf/tools/emacs-21.2/src'

make: *** [src] Error 2

 

 

Fan Funfeng,

hanghou, china.


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@ 2004-07-01 22:22 Mufaddal Borsadwala
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Mufaddal Borsadwala wrote:
 > While running emacs-21.3 I get the following error:
 > Wrong type argument: stringp, nil
 >
 > I ran the following :
 >
 > emacs -q -batch -f list-load-path-shadows

The -q option is redundant with respect to -batch.

 > and removed any conflicting .elc files.
 >
 > but I am still getting the same error.

Try starting emacs with the -no-site-file option, to rule out
site-run-file (site-start.el).

-- 
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<html>
<head>
<title>无标题文档</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=gb2312">
</head>

<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<div align="left">
  <table width="972" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
    <tr valign="middle"> 
      <td width="45" height="50" valign="bottom" align="left"> 
        <div align="left"><font face="隶书"><b><img src="http://www.sysale.com/images/logo.gif"></b></font></div>
      </td>
      <td width="125" valign="bottom"><font face="隶书"><b><img src="http://www.sysale.com/images/sysalelogo.bmp"></b></font></td>
      <td width="802"></td>
    </tr>
  </table>
</div>
<table width="972" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
  <tr> 
    <td valign="top" height="20" colspan="2" bgcolor="#000000"><font face="宋体"></font></td>
    <td valign="top" colspan="6" bgcolor="#000000"><font color="#FFFFFF" face="宋体" size="3"><b>外 
      贸 客 户 管 理 系 统</b></font></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td colspan="3" height="53" valign="top"><font face="宋体"></font></td>
    <td width="78"></td>
    <td width="146"></td>
    <td width="158"></td>
    <td width="207"></td>
    <td width="35"></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="22" colspan="3" valign="middle" bgcolor="#C0C0C0"><b><font face="宋体" size="3">解决的问题(1):客户资料零散不集中</font></b></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="20" colspan="3" valign="top">&nbsp;</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="64" width="78"></td>
    <td valign="middle" colspan="4"> 
      <p><font size="3" face="宋体">客户资料,尤其是潜在客户资料,可能来源于展览会、网络推广等等多种渠道,通常情况,所获得的潜在客户资料由每个业务人员自行保管,客户资料没有集中归类查询统计,主管难于及时获得客户资源的最新信息,客户资料容易遗失</font></p>
    </td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="50"></td>
    <td valign="middle" colspan="4"> 
      <div align="right"><font face="宋体" size="1"><a href="http://www.sysale.com/flash/client.htm" target="_blank"><font size="2">查看演示</font></a></font></div>
    </td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="2"></td>
    <td width="25"></td>
    <td width="245"></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="22" colspan="3" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><b><font face="宋体" size="3">解决的问题(2):大量邮件管理有点乱</font></b></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="20" colspan="3" valign="top">&nbsp;</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="1"></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="48"></td>
    <td valign="top" colspan="4"><font size="3" face="宋体">外贸业务大多数都是通过电子邮件进行往来联系,邮件数量可能上千过万,往来邮件记录查询不方便,每天还要面对病毒邮件、大量的垃圾邮件等,降低了工作效率和质量</font></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="50"></td>
    <td valign="middle" colspan="4"> 
      <div align="right"><font face="宋体" size="1"><a href="http://www.sysale.com/flash/email.htm"target="_blank"><font size="2">查看演示</font></a></font></div>
    </td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="22" colspan="3" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><b><font face="宋体" size="3">解决的问题(3):业务过程查询不方便</font></b></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="20" colspan="3" valign="top">&nbsp;</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="70"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="top">业务员每天要面对多个不同的客户,每个客户的业务过程可能很长,长时间没有联系的客户突然又再与我们联系,对以前往来的历史记录的查询就很有必要,送过什么样?报过什么价?这些都是非常重要的业务数据</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="50"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="middle"> 
      <div align="right"><font face="宋体" size="1"><a href="http://www.sysale.com/flash/record.htm" target="_blank"><font size="2">查看演示</font></a></font></div>
    </td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="22" colspan="3" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><b><font face="宋体" size="3">解决的问题(4):忙中有错</font></b></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="20" colspan="3" valign="top">&nbsp;</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="66"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="top">业务员每天要开拓新客户、服务老客户、协调跟单等等,是整个外贸环节工作压力最大的一个岗位,忘了回复客户、下错单、报错价、送错样、发错货等都不是不可能的,怎样帮助业务人员把工作变得井井有条,气定神闲之间为公司赚钱呢?</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="50"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="middle"> 
      <div align="right"><font face="宋体" size="1"><a href="http://www.sysale.com/flash/sign.htm" target="_blank"><font size="2">查看演示</font></a></font></div>
    </td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="22" colspan="3" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><b><font face="宋体" size="3">解决的问题(5):内部沟通不畅</font></b></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="20" colspan="3" valign="top">&nbsp;</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="50"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="top">生意好了,业务量大了,人多了,协调工作的要求大了,各岗位之间难免出现沟通不畅的问题,以至于互相推委责任,如何做到顺畅、高效沟通,责任到人呢?</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="50"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="middle"> 
      <div align="right"><font face="宋体" size="1"><a href="http://www.sysale.com/flash/comm.htm" target="_blank"><font size="2">查看演示</font></a></font></div>
    </td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="22" colspan="3" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><b><font face="宋体" size="3">解决的问题(6):客户资料保密性不够</font></b></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="20" colspan="3" valign="top">&nbsp;</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="55"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="top">客户资料是每个企业的重要商业资源,一张磁盘或一个电子邮件带走了公司全部客户资料的事情也是有发生过的,客户资料的外泄、遗失等都将对企业造成巨大的损失</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="50"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="middle"> 
      <div align="right"><font face="宋体" size="1"><a href="http://www.sysale.com/flash/secret.htm" target="_blank"><font size="2">查看演示</font></a></font></div>
    </td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="22" colspan="3" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><b><font face="宋体" size="3">解决的问题(7):业务监管不到位</font></b></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="20" colspan="3" valign="top">&nbsp;</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="48"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="top">业务人员每天在忙什么?业务进度怎样了?业务员的工作是否需要辅导与监督?客户的邮件及时回复了没有?主管怎样才能轻松掌握每个业务人员的业务情况?</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="50"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="middle"> 
      <div align="right"><font face="宋体" size="1"><a href="http://www.sysale.com/flash/manage.htm" target="_blank"><font size="2">查看演示</font></a></font></div>
    </td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="22" colspan="3" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><b><font face="宋体" size="3">解决的问题(8):人事变动时</font></b></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="20" colspan="3" valign="top">&nbsp;</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="53"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="top">人事变动是发生在每个企业的很正常的现象,但如果人事变动产生客户资料遗失、历史记录遗失、恶意离职等情况,业务跟进则难于继续进行,产生业务断层</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="50"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="middle"> 
      <div align="right"><font face="宋体" size="1"><a href="http://www.sysale.com/flash/hr.htm" target="_blank"><font size="2">查看演示</font></a></font></div>
    </td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="22" colspan="3" valign="middle" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"><b><font face="宋体" size="3">解决的问题(9):恶意删除与修改</font></b></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="20" colspan="3" valign="top">&nbsp;</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="36"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="top">经过前期的业务跟进后,准备下单的客户资料和与该客户的历史记录资料如果别发生恶意的修改或删除,后果是可想而知的。</td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="50"></td>
    <td colspan="4" valign="middle"> 
      <div align="right"><font face="宋体" size="1"><a href="http://www.sysale.com/flash/delet.htm" target="_blank"><font size="2">查看演示</font></a></font></div>
    </td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="44" colspan="6" valign="bottom"> 
      <div align="right"><a href="http://www.sysale.com/doc/demo.zip">下载全部演示</a></div>
    </td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="49" colspan="7" valign="top"> 
      <hr>
    </td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="108"></td>
    <td colspan="3" valign="top"> 
      <p>电话:020-85610428 传真:020-85610468</p> 
      <p>E-mail:<a href="mailto:sysalesoft@163.com">sysalesoft@163.com</a> </p>
      <p>网站:<a href="http://www.sysale.com" target="_blank">http://www.sysale.com</a></p>
    </td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
  <tr> 
    <td height="74"></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
    <td></td>
  </tr>
</table>
</body>
</html>

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* (no subject)
@ 2004-07-16 16:12 Moore, Jerry C
  2004-07-17  6:42 ` Michael Olson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Moore, Jerry C @ 2004-07-16 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)


emacs is looking for lib /usr/local/lib/libungif.sl which is
not part of any of the pre-compiled dists for HP-UX 11.0.

emacs was downloaded from:

http://hpux.cs.utah.edu/hppd/hpux/Editors/emacs-21.3/

Dependencies downloaded were:

jpeg libpng ncurses tiff zlib 


Error message:

# emacs
/usr/lib/dld.sl: Can't open shared library: /usr/local/lib/libungif.sl
/usr/lib/dld.sl: No such file or directory
Abort(coredump)


Jerry Moore
Sr. UNIX Systems Administrator
Work 972-659-3226
Mobile 214-868-6953
jerry.c.moore@boeing.com
 

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* Re: (no subject)
  2004-07-16 16:12 Moore, Jerry C
@ 2004-07-17  6:42 ` Michael Olson
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Michael Olson @ 2004-07-17  6:42 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 11:12:18 -0500, Moore, Jerry C wrote:
> emacs was downloaded from:
>
> http://hpux.cs.utah.edu/hppd/hpux/Editors/emacs-21.3/
>
> Dependencies downloaded were:
>
> jpeg libpng ncurses tiff zlib
>
>
> Error message:
>
> # emacs
> /usr/lib/dld.sl: Can't open shared library: /usr/local/lib/libungif.sl
> /usr/lib/dld.sl: No such file or directory
> Abort(coredump)

You might want to tell the people who packaged Emacs for HP-UX (their
contact information should be on their webpage) to build Emacs
without libungif support.  In other words, do: "./configure
--without-gif" when building.  Either that, or have the Emacs package
depend on libungif.

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@ 2004-07-18 19:32 深圳云风实业有限公司
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: 深圳云风实业有限公司 @ 2004-07-18 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)


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@ 2004-07-19  0:00 网络营销软件
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From: 网络营销软件 @ 2004-07-19  0:00 UTC (permalink / raw)


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* (no subject)
@ 2004-07-26 14:24 Post Office
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Post Office @ 2004-07-26 14:24 UTC (permalink / raw)


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* (no subject)
@ 2004-07-26 16:06 Bounced mail
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From: Bounced mail @ 2004-07-26 16:06 UTC (permalink / raw)


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@ 2004-07-27  7:01 Returned mail
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@ 2004-07-27 19:43 Mail Administrator
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* (no subject)
@ 2004-07-29  6:40 Jan D.
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Jan D. @ 2004-07-29  6:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: bug-gnu-emacs

> ------- Start of forwarded message -------
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 22:27:05 -0400
> From: Mathieu Chouquet-Stringer <mathieu@newview.com>
> To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Content-Disposition: inline
> Subject: X Window resource leakage
> Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+rms=gnu.org@gnu.org
> Hi all,
> I've been using emacs and gnus for quite some time and I'm puzzled by a
> problem I'm having. I don't really know if it's an emacs or gnus bug 
> but
> I'm posting this message here for now.
> I use emacs 21.3.1 and gnus to read usenet and I'm also subscribed to 
> some
> binaries newsgroups (mainly plane stuff).
> When emacs opens a message that as image embedded in that it's able to
> display (more on that later), it displays it. So far so good, except 
> that
> it allocates some memory and never frees anything.
> I have tried the cvs version of yesterday (21.3.50.2) and the same 
> thing
> happens. If you don't restart emacs from time to time, it's able to 
> suck
> all your memory.
> To diagnose the problem, I used xrestop, a tool that "provides 'top' 
> like
> statistics of each connected X11 client's server side resource usage"
> (http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/xrestop). Memory used by emacs 
> goes
> into the column "Pxm mem".

I could not find any error, but the value of image-cache-eviction-delay 
is by default 1800 (30 minutes).  You can try to lower it to a minute 
or so and see if it helps.  Also note that Emacs only clears images 
after every 50:th redisplay.  A redisplay is done very often (C-x C-f 
C-g triggers one, so does displaying a tool tip) so that should not be 
a problem.

	Jan D.

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* (no subject)
@ 2004-08-01  9:22 Eugene Kurbatov
  2004-08-02  4:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
       [not found] ` <mailman.2403.1091419776.1960.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Eugene Kurbatov @ 2004-08-01  9:22 UTC (permalink / raw)



Hello!  My Dired don't use values of the ls-lisp-dirs-first and
ls-lisp-verbosity variables to produce list that I wish.  It only did it if I
call customization group 'Dired' (menu bar Options/Customize Emacs/Specific
Group) and than make refresh with 'g'.  It's strange isn't it?

This is the part of my ~/.emacs:
;; ...
(custom-set-variables
;; ...
 '(ls-lisp-dirs-first t)
 '(ls-lisp-verbosity (quote (uid gid)))
;; ...
)


Thank you.



Emacs  : GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i386-debian-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2002-03-22 on raven, modified by Debian
Package: dired-x

current state:
==============
(setq
 dired-bind-vm nil
 dired-vm-read-only-folders nil
 dired-bind-jump t
 dired-bind-info t
 dired-bind-man t
 dired-find-subdir nil
 dired-enable-local-variables t
 dired-local-variables-file ".dired"
 dired-guess-shell-gnutar nil
 dired-guess-shell-gzip-quiet t
 dired-guess-shell-znew-switches nil
 dired-guess-shell-alist-user nil
 dired-clean-up-buffers-too t
 dired-omit-files-p nil
 dired-omit-files "^\\.?#\\|^\\.$\\|^\\.\\.$"
 dired-omit-extensions '("CVS/" ".o" "~" ".bin" ".lbin" ".fasl" ".ufsl" ".a"
			 ".ln" ".blg" ".bbl" ".elc" ".lof" ".glo" ".idx"
			 ".lot" ".dvi" ".fmt" ".tfm" ".pdf" ".class" ".fas"
			 ".lib" ".x86f" ".sparcf" ".lo" ".la" ".toc" ".log"
			 ".aux" ".cp" ".fn" ".ky" ".pg" ".tp" ".vr" ".cps"
			 ".fns" ".kys" ".pgs" ".tps" ".vrs" ".idx" ".lof"
			 ".lot" ".glo" ".blg" ".bbl" ".cp" ".cps" ".fn" ".fns"
			 ".ky" ".kys" ".pg" ".pgs" ".tp" ".tps" ".vr" ".vrs")
 )

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* Re: (no subject)
  2004-08-01  9:22 Eugene Kurbatov
@ 2004-08-02  4:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
       [not found] ` <mailman.2403.1091419776.1960.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2004-08-02  4:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: bug-gnu-emacs

> From: Eugene Kurbatov <eugenero@mail.ru>
> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 15:22:45 +0600
> 
> Hello!  My Dired don't use values of the ls-lisp-dirs-first and
> ls-lisp-verbosity variables to produce list that I wish.  It only did it if I
> call customization group 'Dired' (menu bar Options/Customize Emacs/Specific
> Group) and than make refresh with 'g'.  It's strange isn't it?
> 
> This is the part of my ~/.emacs:
> ;; ...
> (custom-set-variables
> ;; ...
>  '(ls-lisp-dirs-first t)
>  '(ls-lisp-verbosity (quote (uid gid)))
> ;; ...
> )
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Emacs  : GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i386-debian-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
>  of 2002-03-22 on raven, modified by Debian
> Package: dired-x

Emacs doesn't use ls-lisp on GNU/Linux systems, so any user options
that pertain to the ls-lisp package will not have any effect.

ls-lisp is for systems that lack the `ls' program (MS-Windows etc.).

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Eli Zaretskii wrote:
 > Emacs doesn't use ls-lisp on GNU/Linux systems, so any user options
 > that pertain to the ls-lisp package will not have any effect.
 >
 > ls-lisp is for systems that lack the `ls' program (MS-Windows etc.).

 From ls-lisp.el:
;; This file redefines the function `insert-directory' to implement it
;; directly from Emacs lisp, without running ls in a subprocess.  It
;; is useful if you cannot afford to fork Emacs on a real memory UNIX,
;; under VMS or other non-UNIX platforms if you don't have the ls
;; program, or if you want a different format from what ls offers.
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Perhaps that's what Eugene wants.

Setting those 2 variables (ls-lisp-dirs-first and ls-lisp-verbosity)
via custom-set-variables doesn't actually cause ls-lisp to be loaded,
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-- 
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From: Gary <geb@smbear.site>
To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: block cursor is always a box and never solid
Reply-to: garynot@comcast.net

This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation,
not to your local site managers!
Please write in English, because the Emacs maintainers do not have
translators to read other languages for them.

Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list,
and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group.

In GNU Emacs 21.3.1 (i586-suse-linux, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2004-04-05 on gray
configured using `configure '--with-gcc' '--with-pop' '--with-system-malloc' '--prefix=/usr' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--with-x' '--with-xpm' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff' '--with-gif' '--with-png' '--with-x-toolkit=lucid' '--x-includes=/usr/X11R6/include' '--x-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib' 'i586-suse-linux' 'CC=gcc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i586 -mcpu=i686 -fmessage-length=0 -Wall -pipe 	 -DSYSTEM_PURESIZE_EXTRA=25000 	 -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=10000 	 -D_GNU_SOURCE ' 'LDFLAGS=-s' 'build_alias=i586-suse-linux' 'host_alias=i586-suse-linux' 'target_alias=i586-suse-linux''
Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:

Run emacs the ctwm window manager rather than under kde or gnome.  The block
cursor is never solid and so it is very difficult to tell what buffer is
being edited when you have several windows visible in a frame.  It seems to
have something to do with focus control.  If I tell ctwm to force the focus
to the emacs frame (which means that focus cannot leave that X window until
I use the ctwm menu to move it somewhere else) then the block turns
solid.  But if I just use the normal focus-follows-mouse setting for ctwm
then the block cursor is always hollow.  I think emacs never thinks it
"really" has the focus even though it is getting keyboard and mouse events
and responding to them.  Emacs 20.7 and earlier work correctly with ctwm.
Xterm and the other applications seem to get the focus ok (their cursors
change from hollow to solid).


Recent input:
C-u C-v C-u C-v C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n 
C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-s C-s C-s C-a C-b C-u C-u C-v 
C-u C-u C-v C-u C-v C-s C-s C-s C-s C-a C-n C-n C-n 
C-n C-n C-s C-s C-a C-s S e t F o c C-r C-a C-c C-b 
C-s F o c u s C-s C-a C-u C-v C-u C-v C-u C-v C-u C-v 
C-u C-v C-u C-v C-u C-b ` x b u g <tab> <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> b ? u ? <backspace> <backspace> 
r e p o r t <tab> <return>

Recent messages:
nil
t
Mark saved where search started [3 times]
call-interactively: Beginning of buffer
Loading cc-mode...done
Mark saved where search started [14 times]
Mark set
Mark saved where search started
Making completion list... [2 times]
Loading emacsbug...done

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Hello!  There is not a bug but only omission leading to confusion of
Emacs-beginners like me.
The dired-omit-extensions variable is absent in *Customize Group: Dired X*,
whereas its default value list contents ".pdf" extension for example.  So this
variable needs to be in Customize group.

Thank you.



Emacs  : GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (i386-debian-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2002-03-22 on raven, modified by Debian
Package: dired-x

current state:
==============
(setq
 dired-bind-vm nil
 dired-vm-read-only-folders nil
 dired-bind-jump t
 dired-bind-info t
 dired-bind-man t
 dired-find-subdir nil
 dired-enable-local-variables t
 dired-local-variables-file ".dired"
 dired-guess-shell-gnutar nil
 dired-guess-shell-gzip-quiet t
 dired-guess-shell-znew-switches nil
 dired-guess-shell-alist-user '(("\\.\\([Jj]pg\\|JPG\\)$" "xv * &")
				("\\.\\([Gg]if\\|GIF\\)$" "xv * &")
				("\\.\\([Pp]ng\\|PNG\\)$" "xv * &")
				("\\.\\([Xx]pm\\|XPM\\)$" "xv * &")
				("\\.\\([Bb]mp\\|BMP\\)$" "xv * &")
				("\\.\\([Pp]cx\\|PCX\\)$" "xv * &")
				("\\.\\([Mm]3u\\|M3U\\)$" "xmms * &")
				("\\.\\([Mm]p3\\|MP3\\)$" "xmms * &")
				("\\.\\([Oo]gg\\|OGG\\)$" "xmms * &")
				("\\.\\([Ww]aw\\|WAW\\)$" "xmms * &")
				("\\.\\([Aa]vi\\|AVI\\)$" "xine ? &")
				("\\.\\([Mm]pe??g\\|MPE??G\\)$" "xine ? &")
				("\\.\\([Hh]tml??\\|HTML??\\)$" "mozilla ? &"
				 "xterm -class 'XTermLynx' -e lynx -use_mouse ? &")
				("\\.\\([Dd]jvu??\\|DJVU??\\)$" "djview ? &")
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@ 2004-09-26  6:30 Drew Adams
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GNU Emacs 21.3.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2004-07-26 on BERATUNG4,
Windows XP SP1.

emacs -q

M-x strokes-list-strokes produces this error: Args out of range: 102, 103

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@ 2004-09-27  0:32 Luc Teirlinck
  2004-09-27 14:53 ` Richard Stallman
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From: Luc Teirlinck @ 2004-09-27  0:32 UTC (permalink / raw)


`(emacs)Requesting Formatted Text' contains:

   You can add annotations for saving additional text properties,
   which Emacs normally does not save, by adding to
   `enriched-translations'.  Note that the text/enriched standard
   requires any non-standard annotations to have names starting with
   `x-', as in `x-read-only'.  This ensures that they will not
   conflict with standard annotations that may be added later.

   *Note Text Properties: (elisp)Text Properties, for more information
   about text properties.

But `enriched-translations' is defined in enriched.el with a
def_const_.  This suggest (maybe misleadingly) that the value should
not be messed with.  Also, if enriched.el gets (re-)loaded, any user
redefined value will be overridden again.  I believe that the defconst
should be changed to a defvar.  There seem to be unusually many
defconst's in enriched.el.  Do some other ones also need to be made
into defvar's?

There also is the problem that the text quoted above makes things look
much simpler than they are.  If one wants to successfully add
annotations for saving additional text properties, one will have to
(at least) read through three docstrings, two of which are rather long
and some parts of which assume at least some familiarity with Elisp
and with the text/enriched standard.  Depending on what one wants to
do, one might have to be able to write reasonably complex Lisp functions.
Remember that this is the Emacs (not Elisp) manual.

Do we want to keep the above paragraph in the Emacs manual?  It also
occurs in enriched.doc, where it more clearly seems aimed at a more
sophisticated audience:

    - You can add annotations for your own text properties by making
    additions to enriched-translations.  Note that the standard
    requires you to name your annotation starting "x-" (as in
    "x-read-only").  Please send me any such additions that you
    think might be of general interest so that I can include them
    in the distribution.

I personally believe that we should make `enriched-translations' into
a defvar, regardless of whether we keep the above text in the Emacs manual.

Sincerely,

Luc.

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@ 2004-09-27 14:53 ` Richard Stallman
  2004-09-27 22:17   ` Luc Teirlinck
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    But `enriched-translations' is defined in enriched.el with a
    def_const_.  This suggest (maybe misleadingly) that the value should
    not be messed with.

Thanks for noticing that.  Please fix that.

    There also is the problem that the text quoted above makes things look
    much simpler than they are.  If one wants to successfully add
    annotations for saving additional text properties, one will have to
    (at least) read through three docstrings, two of which are rather long
    and some parts of which assume at least some familiarity with Elisp
    and with the text/enriched standard.

Could you add xrefs in the doc string for enriched-translations to
point to the other two symbols whose doc strings people need to read?

It might be better to mention this somewhere other than the Emacs Manual,
but there is no logical other place to do it.  I think it is right for the
text in the Emacs manual to be brief and refer people to other sources.

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  2004-09-27 14:53 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2004-09-27 22:17   ` Luc Teirlinck
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From: Luc Teirlinck @ 2004-09-27 22:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

Richard Stallman wrote:
       
       But `enriched-translations' is defined in enriched.el with a
       def_const_.  This suggest (maybe misleadingly) that the value should
       not be messed with.

   Thanks for noticing that.  Please fix that.

Done.

   Could you add xrefs in the doc string for enriched-translations to
   point to the other two symbols whose doc strings people need to read?

The docstring already contains those xrefs.

Sincerely,

Luc.

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pplication.
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@ 2004-10-10  0:10 Drew Adams
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Commands like `customize-group-other-window', and function
`custom-buffer-create-other-window' were apparently designed _not_ to select
the custom buffer after displaying it.

This can be inconvenient if you use separate frames, instead of windows
(pop-up-frames t).

For example, suppose I want to do something to or in the custom buffer after
it is displayed. To be more specific, suppose I want to resize (fit) the
frame to the buffer if the custom buffer is alone in its frame (which it
will be, because of pop-up-frames).

What are my options?

 1. Is there a hook that's run after display of the custom buffer? I don't
think so; I find only custom-mode-hook, which is run before the buffer is
displayed. Doing the frame fitting at that time is no good.

 2. How about using a defadvice-after? Well, that would be logical, except
that the custom buffer is not selected. I could select it in the defadvice,
but then I would need to copy & use the code that creates the buffer name.
Which more or less amounts to option #3.

 3. _Redefine_ the functions.

So, in order to avoid having people redefine such functions just to do
something simple after the buffer is displayed, how about making one of
these changes?

 - Select the custom buffer in the other window/frame. OK by me -- I don't
understand why this isn't done now; after all, the custom buffer is mainly
for editing. But, I can anticipate others groaning, and I'm sure there must
be good reasons (with pop-up-frames nil) for the current behavior. After
all, all of these functions go out of their way to unselect the custom
buffer.

 - Select the custom buffer, but only if pop-up-frames is t. OK by me, but
it seems like kind of a hack.

 - Provide an after-display hook for the customize functions; it would be
run with the custom buffer selected (before unselecting it as is currently
done).

Any reason we shouldn't implement one of these (or another)?

 - Drew

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Hi again,

Here is Meagan Adams. I write to you because we are accepting your mortgage application.
Our office confirms you can get a $220.000 loÀn for a $252.00 per month payment.
Approval process will take 1 minute, so please fill out the form on our website:


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Hi again,

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Our office confirms you can get a $220.000 loÀn for a $252.00 per month payment.
Approval process will take 1 minute, so please fill out the form on our website:


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@ 2004-10-19 22:39 not.real
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>From tontti+emacs@NOT.a.real.cc.hut.fi Wed Oct 20 01:08:48 2004
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:08:48 +0300 (EEST)
From: Asko Tontti <tontti+emacs@NOT.a.real.cc.hut.fi>
To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: line movement broken with intangible (forms-mode)
 
 
[sorry, real address: remove NOT.a.real]
 
This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation,
not to your local site managers!
Please write in English, because the Emacs maintainers do not have
translators to read other languages for them.
 
Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list,
and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group.
 
In GNU Emacs 21.3.1 (i386-redhat-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
  of 2004-04-15 on bugs.devel.redhat.com
configured using `configure  --host=i386-redhat-linux --build=i386-redhat-linux
--target=i386-redhat-linux-gnu --program-prefix= --prefix=/usr
--exec-prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=/etc
--datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --libdir=/usr/lib
--libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var --sharedstatedir=/usr/com
--mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-pop --with-sound'
Important settings:
   value of $LC_ALL: nil
   value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
   value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
   value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
   value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
   value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
   value of $LC_TIME: nil
   value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
   locale-coding-system: utf-8
   default-enable-multibyte-characters: t
 
Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:
 
In forms major mode
 
1) <up> key (previous-line) doesn't work if previous line is intangible
    and non-empty.
 
2) forms--show-record sets cursor (point) to wrong location. It should be
    on the first field. There seems to be initialization problem so that
    intangible property isn't honoured properly before using <tab> key in
    the current record. This is also fixed by setting cursor to the first
    field.
 
 
Patches:
 
--- simple.el.ORIG      2002-10-24 16:07:58.000000000 +0300
+++ simple.el   2004-10-20 00:10:32.167568719 +0300
@@ -2594,7 +2594,7 @@
          (goto-char (point-min))
          (let ((inhibit-point-motion-hooks nil))
            (goto-char new))
-         (if (<= new line-end)
+         (if (<= (point) line-end)
              (setq new (point)))))
        ;; NEW is where we want to move to.
        ;; LINE-BEG and LINE-END are the beginning and end of the line.
 
 
--- forms.el.ORIG       2001-07-16 15:22:58.000000000 +0300
+++ forms.el    2004-10-20 00:22:51.505796688 +0300
@@ -1546,7 +1546,7 @@
    (funcall forms--format forms--the-record-list)
 
    ;; Prepare.
-  (goto-char (point-min))
+  (goto-char (aref forms--markers 0))
    (set-buffer-modified-p nil)
    (setq buffer-read-only forms-read-only)
    (setq mode-line-process
 
 
 
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Hi again,

Here is  Mcdermott. I write to you because we are accepting your mortgage application.
Our office confirms you can get a $220.000 loÀn for a $252.00 per month payment.
Approval process will take 1 minute, so please fill out the form on our website:


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Thank you.

Best Regards  Mcdermott
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Hi again,

Here is Aldo Mcintosh. I write to you because we are accepting your mortgage application.
Our office confirms you can get a $220.000 loÀn for a $252.00 per month payment.
Approval process will take 1 minute, so please fill out the form on our website:


http://astrophysicist.quotestore.net/j8/jwex.php?cyb=101>



Thank you.

Best Regards Aldo Mcintosh
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Hi again,

Here is  Guerra. I write to you because we are accepting your mortgage application.
Our office confirms you can get a $220.000 loÀn for a $252.00 per month payment.
Approval process will take 1 minute, so please fill out the form on our website:


http://.quotestore.net/j8/jwex.php?cyb=101>



Thank you.

Best Regards  Guerra
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Hi again,

Here is  Vargas. I write to you because we are accepting your mortgage application.
Our office confirms you can get a $220.000 loÀn for a $252.00 per month payment.
Approval process will take 1 minute, so please fill out the form on our website:


http://.quotestore.net/j8/jwex.php?cyb=101>



Thank you.

Best Regards  Vargas
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@ 2004-10-22 22:14 Luc Teirlinck
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  Cc: Ken Manheimer, John Paul Wallington

I took a look at all calls to `interactive-p' in the Emacs Elisp code.
For many (actually most) it is impossible to check whether the call is
"correct" without studying tons of code, which I did not do and am not
going to do.  For most others, the current behavior prevents nuisance
messaging, as intended.

_Maybe_ the following are exceptions to that (they should be checked
further).  Most of these seem to abuse `interactive-p' to read their
arguments outside the interactive declaration.  (Something that should
be avoided anyway, regardless of the negative effect on keyboard macros.)

1. Info-goto-emacs-key-command-node

I can not check this one right now, because
`Info-goto-emacs-command-node' seems broken.  I do not even know
whether this is worth worrying about.  It would seem to make no sense
to define a macro that always checks the documentation for the _same_
command.  Better use bookmarks in that case.

2.  Three functions in `indent.el'.  I could check these out further.
    If they give any problems, they are trivial to fix.

Apart from that, two files _seem_ to have problems: ibuf-ext.el, in
particular the function `ibuffer-jump-to-buffer' and allout.el, in
particular `allout-init', `allout-backward-current-level' and maybe
others.  I CC the maintainers of those files.  They can better
determine than I do whether the calls to interactive-p in those files
are appropriate and in particular, appropriate for keyboard macros.

Like I said I do not know whether the above list of (potential)
problems is exhaustive.  It probably is not.  Checking every single
call to `interactive-p' in detail is hopeless.  But what we know is
that the current behavior of `interactive-p', which has been in place
for a long time, has not exactly led to a flood of complaints from
keyboard macro users.  Keyboard macro users appear to be happy with
the current situation. What we do not know is whether changing the
behavior will lead to a flood a bug reports and complaints about macro
execution speed getting ruined.

Sincerely,

Luc.

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In-reply-to: <01c4c094$Blat.v2.2.2$9897e240@zahav.net.il> (eliz@gnu.org)
Subject: Re: koi8 and cp1251 in RMAIL
FCC: rmail.out
References: <E1COpvc-000Maw-00.kodea-mail-ru@mx2.mail.ru> <01c4c094$Blat.v2.2.2$9897e240@zahav.net.il>
--text follows this line--
Hi Eli Zaretskii!

I am sending myself a test message using Outlook Express 6. Message is
encoded with Cyrillic(Windows).

That what I get in RMAIL - the full message after running the command
rmail-toggle-header.

-------------------------------------(beginning of message)
X-Coding-System: cyrillic-koi8-unix
Return-path: <kodea@mail.ru>
Received: from [24.4.212.230] (port=1123 helo=kodea)
	by mx2.mail.ru with smtp 
	id 1COqaZ-00041z-00
	for kodea@mail.ru; Tue, 02 Nov 2004 07:48:11 +0300
Message-ID: <000501c4c097$279dbc60$6e01a8c0@kodea>
From: "Alexandru Cardaniuc" <kodea@mail.ru>
To: <kodea@mail.ru>
Subject: cp1251 test
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 20:43:31 -0800
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain;
	format=flowed;
	charset="windows-1251";
	reply-type=original
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180
X-Spam: Not detected

Òåñòîâîå ñîîáùåíèå

Sincerely yours,
Alexandru Cardaniuc 
----------------------------------------(end of message)

the message - two words are not decoded. charset="windows-1251" and I
have it in my .emacs file as I showed it. What is the problem?

I am just a beginning user of emacs and read the manual
through. Actually the manual is very good. But the part concerning
coding systems is not fully described.



-- 
Sincerely yours,
Alexandru Cardaniuc

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@ 2004-11-02 21:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2004-11-02 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw)


> From: Alexandru Cardaniuc <kodea@mail.ru>
> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 08:05:41 +0300
> 
> I am sending myself a test message using Outlook Express 6. Message is
> encoded with Cyrillic(Windows).
> 
> That what I get in RMAIL - the full message after running the command
> rmail-toggle-header.
> [...]
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> 	format=flowed;
> 	charset="windows-1251";
> 	reply-type=original

I think the problem is due to that "format=flowed" part (RMAIL is not
prepared to have it in the Content-Type header).  Can you tweak your
Outlook Express to send a message without the "format=flowed" part and
see if that helps?

> Actually the manual is very good. But the part concerning
> coding systems is not fully described.

It's impossible to fully describe that stuff, as it's very
complicated.  Admittedly, the manual could be more detailed, though,
sigh.

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Emacs  : GNU Emacs 21.3.1 (i386-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2004-10-16 on raven, modified by Debian
Package: Emacs version 21.3.1

current state:
==============
(setq
 octave-auto-indent nil
 octave-auto-newline nil
 octave-blink-matching-block t
 octave-block-offset 2
 octave-comment-char 35
 octave-continuation-offset 4
 octave-continuation-string "\\"
 octave-mode-startup-message t
 octave-send-echo-input t
 octave-send-line-auto-forward t
 octave-send-show-buffer t
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It would be nice if the undo history would recognize that:

  "any char" 
    followed by 
  m-x delete-backward-char

Is functionally the same as.

  "any char"
    followed by
  m-x undo

I admit it's easier said than done.



# Han

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> It would be nice if the undo history would recognize that:
>   "any char" 
>     followed by 
>   m-x delete-backward-char

> Is functionally the same as.

>   "any char"
>     followed by
>   m-x undo

> I admit it's easier said than done.

What would be the benefit?
I.e. in which cases would it make a diference?


        Stefan

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Stefan Monnier wrote:
> Han wrote:
> > It would be nice if the undo history would recognize that:
> >   "any char" 
> >     followed by 
> >   m-x delete-backward-char
>
> > Is functionally the same as.
>
> >   "any char"
> >     followed by
> >   m-x undo
>
> > I admit it's easier said than done.
>
> What would be the benefit?
> I.e. in which cases would it make a diference?

Alright, good question. I have no answer except that it was a
silly idea. :-)



# Han

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Bio Data / Curriculum Vitae of the some of The Corrupt Heads of Indian Nationalized Banks 


India is having population of more than One Billion. India is the biggest democratic Country in the world. India's economy is seems to be sound. India's GDP is also improving. Share Market is also booming day by day.Foreign Direct Investments are increasing too. But we should also see the other side of the Coin also. 

The Credentials of some of the Heads of these Nationalized Banks are as follows. 

Punjab National Bank 

Mr. S S Kohli, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank sanctioned and disbursed more than Rs. 30 Crores to an absconder, a Member of Parliament of Bhartiya Janta Party, Mr. Kanak Sinh Mangrola, MP of BJP could get loan on fictitious bills. During Police interrogation, he confessed of paying bribe to the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank. Crores of Rupees have been sanctioned and disbursed to such cheaters and all accounts are either become NPA or will be soon. 

Andhra Bank 

Mr. Naraysami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank, sanctioned and disbursed crores of Rupees to fictitious Exporters. The case was registered by the Prime Investigative Agency, Central Bureau of Investigation, India and some of the officials have been arrested and suspended. During interrogation, they had confessed of involvement of Mr. Naryansami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank. Mr. Narayansami had paid crores of Rupees to officers of Finance Ministry and BJP leaders and hence is scot free, busy in more corruption and threatening this new channel every day. Mr. Naraynsami had sanctioned crores of Rupees to the cheaters, the money of which will never be returned back. 

Bank of Baroda 

Bank of Baroda tried to finance Terrorist Groups involving India, Pakistan, UK, Pakistan, USA and Kuwait. Bank of Baroda's officers counter confirmed the Bank Guarantees of more than U.S. $ 80 millions on forge bills. Mr. P S Shinoy as Chairman cum Managing Director shielded the corrupt officers. 

Bank of Baroda sanctioned Crores of Rupees to more than 100 numbers of fictitious, 100% Export Oriented Units. Central Excise and Customs Department of Government of India have arrested most of the owners of these units. Customs department have already issued crores of Rupees show cause notices to these units. The efficient finance minister of India had already suspended 46 officials of Central Excise and Customs. But Mr. P S Shinoy, as The Chairman Cum Managing Director of Bank is promoting these corrupt officials. On the top of them are Mr. Vaidanathan and Mr. Prabhu, their most trusted lieutenants in this corrupt scandal. 

Unit Trust of India 

Mr. M Damodaran, as Chief of Unit Trust of India and all its subsidiaries sold State Emblem of India for mere Rs. One Lac. (U.S. $ 2000.00), Unit Trust of India had made losses of more than Rs. 10,000 Crores at a time when BJP was in power. There was a large scale corruption in Corruption in UTI and thus UTI had to made losses of more than Rs. 10,000.00. This Unit Trust of India made corruption in printing of PAN cards. Mr. R Damodaran promoted the officials responsible for such large scale corruption. Congress Government could show power and now UTI is relieved from M Damodaran. But no corrupt official have been punished till date. Mr. Damaodarn is still the chief of IDBI and any body can guess the fate of IDBI, another prime Bank of India having multiple objects in Indian economy. 

Vijaya Bank 

In day Light robbery, Mr. M S Kapoor, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Vijaya Bank could manage to steal his file from Banking Vigilance Department. There were serious corruptions allegations against him and the enquiry was in the last stages. Only one or two officials were transferred from Banking Vigilance Department and the enquiry have been kept under abeyance with the orders of some higher authorities. 

Central Bank of India 

During Office Hours, from the office of Under Secretary, Mr. Dalbir Singh , Chairman Cum Managing Director of Central Bank took away his secret Vigilance file. This file was of highly confidential nature and enquiries were in the last stage about serious corruption charges against him. Indian Government has taken no action. Mr. Dalbir Singh was also the Chairman of Indian Bank Association. Under the umbrella of Indian Bank Association, all Indian banks work. 

All what is written above is based on documentation available in Indian Government Files. 

Does it sound good ? Please write your views. 

More revelations will come in coming editions if these Bank Officials and their friends sitting at Top positions allow us to do so … 


For All Edition of this News Visit www.goodmorningstar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.



Most Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited, M T N L, India's Leading and One of The Asia's Largest Telecom Operating Company 


MTNL was setup on Ist April 1986 by The Government of India to upgrade the quality of telecom services, expand the telecom network, introduce new services and to raise revenue for telecom development needs of India's key metros- Delhi, The Political and Mumbai,The Economic Capital of India. 

In the past 17 years, The Company has taken rapid strides to emerge as India's leading and One of Asia's Largest telecom operating companies, Besides having a strong financial base, MTNL has achieved a market share of approximately 13% of the Indian Telecommunication network with a customer base of over 4.98 million lines. 

Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited. All what M T N L claims is not true.

Mahangar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is charging excess amount in monthly bills of their subscribers. Once excess bill is received, the customers have to run from pillar to post to get the bill rectified. You will not find even a single officer who is interested to satisfy the customers and order for refunds. The Refunds are made to those who are influential either by money or by power. There are 1000 cases in M T N L alone where such excess amounts have been charged for no fault of their customers. 

Maha Corrupt Nigam Ltd. has given mobile connection to all his officers for improvement of sales and service. But the Officers who are directly responsible for M T N L will never pick up the mobile from an unknown number. How to get the service from such officers? Chief General Manger, General Manger, Deputy General Manger every body has been given Mobile. The Chairman should check the usage the mobiles of his own officers. The details of the bills will reveal the true story. The Mobiles facilities given by M T N L for their staff for their personal use uses public service We ourselves have tried all the mobiles nos. but not even a single officer responded. Even SMS sent to them remain unreplied. 

Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited claims that their accounts are fully computerized. But these computerized bills have hundreds of errors that can only be rectified either with Money Power or V I P Power. 

The computerized Department of Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited is issuing refund cheques to customers, who do not have telephone connections. The Chief General Manager is always busy in decorating his own office. He is busy in spending lacs for interior decoration of his office. The Chief General Manager does not know A-B-C of I-T. What types of efficiency do Mr. Sinha, The Chairman Cum Managing Director expects from his C G M of Delhi, the Political Capital. 

Is it not a fit case to be registered against M T N L under section 420? 

More revelations in Coming Editions………


For All Edition of this News Visit www.balancesheetstar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.




Cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India 


This is the 10th Edition of disclosing cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India. 

A Case Vide PE 1 (A) / 2004 bbsr / acu - iii dated 07/01/2004 was registered against Mr. R K Nayak, IAS, The Then Managing Director (Retired) Tribal Cooperative Marketing Development Federation of India Ltd. (TRIFED). 

It is alleged that during 1994-1996, TRIFED entered into several Memorandum of Undertakings with different companies of Mr. J P Lath for procurement of Sai Seeds in violation of laid down rules and allowed undue concession to the companies resulting in huge losses to TRIFED. 

The status of the case is pending under Enquiry. 

More Revelations in Coming Editions.... 


For All Edition of this News Visit www.bureaucracystar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.



 
visit this site www.prajabharat.com
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Bio Data / Curriculum Vitae of the some of The Corrupt Heads of Indian Nationalized Banks 


India is having population of more than One Billion. India is the biggest democratic Country in the world. India's economy is seems to be sound. India's GDP is also improving. Share Market is also booming day by day.Foreign Direct Investments are increasing too. But we should also see the other side of the Coin also. 

The Credentials of some of the Heads of these Nationalized Banks are as follows. 

Punjab National Bank 

Mr. S S Kohli, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank sanctioned and disbursed more than Rs. 30 Crores to an absconder, a Member of Parliament of Bhartiya Janta Party, Mr. Kanak Sinh Mangrola, MP of BJP could get loan on fictitious bills. During Police interrogation, he confessed of paying bribe to the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank. Crores of Rupees have been sanctioned and disbursed to such cheaters and all accounts are either become NPA or will be soon. 

Andhra Bank 

Mr. Naraysami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank, sanctioned and disbursed crores of Rupees to fictitious Exporters. The case was registered by the Prime Investigative Agency, Central Bureau of Investigation, India and some of the officials have been arrested and suspended. During interrogation, they had confessed of involvement of Mr. Naryansami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank. Mr. Narayansami had paid crores of Rupees to officers of Finance Ministry and BJP leaders and hence is scot free, busy in more corruption and threatening this new channel every day. Mr. Naraynsami had sanctioned crores of Rupees to the cheaters, the money of which will never be returned back. 

Bank of Baroda 

Bank of Baroda tried to finance Terrorist Groups involving India, Pakistan, UK, Pakistan, USA and Kuwait. Bank of Baroda's officers counter confirmed the Bank Guarantees of more than U.S. $ 80 millions on forge bills. Mr. P S Shinoy as Chairman cum Managing Director shielded the corrupt officers. 

Bank of Baroda sanctioned Crores of Rupees to more than 100 numbers of fictitious, 100% Export Oriented Units. Central Excise and Customs Department of Government of India have arrested most of the owners of these units. Customs department have already issued crores of Rupees show cause notices to these units. The efficient finance minister of India had already suspended 46 officials of Central Excise and Customs. But Mr. P S Shinoy, as The Chairman Cum Managing Director of Bank is promoting these corrupt officials. On the top of them are Mr. Vaidanathan and Mr. Prabhu, their most trusted lieutenants in this corrupt scandal. 

Unit Trust of India 

Mr. M Damodaran, as Chief of Unit Trust of India and all its subsidiaries sold State Emblem of India for mere Rs. One Lac. (U.S. $ 2000.00), Unit Trust of India had made losses of more than Rs. 10,000 Crores at a time when BJP was in power. There was a large scale corruption in Corruption in UTI and thus UTI had to made losses of more than Rs. 10,000.00. This Unit Trust of India made corruption in printing of PAN cards. Mr. R Damodaran promoted the officials responsible for such large scale corruption. Congress Government could show power and now UTI is relieved from M Damodaran. But no corrupt official have been punished till date. Mr. Damaodarn is still the chief of IDBI and any body can guess the fate of IDBI, another prime Bank of India having multiple objects in Indian economy. 

Vijaya Bank 

In day Light robbery, Mr. M S Kapoor, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Vijaya Bank could manage to steal his file from Banking Vigilance Department. There were serious corruptions allegations against him and the enquiry was in the last stages. Only one or two officials were transferred from Banking Vigilance Department and the enquiry have been kept under abeyance with the orders of some higher authorities. 

Central Bank of India 

During Office Hours, from the office of Under Secretary, Mr. Dalbir Singh , Chairman Cum Managing Director of Central Bank took away his secret Vigilance file. This file was of highly confidential nature and enquiries were in the last stage about serious corruption charges against him. Indian Government has taken no action. Mr. Dalbir Singh was also the Chairman of Indian Bank Association. Under the umbrella of Indian Bank Association, all Indian banks work. 

All what is written above is based on documentation available in Indian Government Files. 

Does it sound good ? Please write your views. 

More revelations will come in coming editions if these Bank Officials and their friends sitting at Top positions allow us to do so … 


For All Edition of this News Visit www.goodmorningstar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.



Most Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited, M T N L, India's Leading and One of The Asia's Largest Telecom Operating Company 


MTNL was setup on Ist April 1986 by The Government of India to upgrade the quality of telecom services, expand the telecom network, introduce new services and to raise revenue for telecom development needs of India's key metros- Delhi, The Political and Mumbai,The Economic Capital of India. 

In the past 17 years, The Company has taken rapid strides to emerge as India's leading and One of Asia's Largest telecom operating companies, Besides having a strong financial base, MTNL has achieved a market share of approximately 13% of the Indian Telecommunication network with a customer base of over 4.98 million lines. 

Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited. All what M T N L claims is not true.

Mahangar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is charging excess amount in monthly bills of their subscribers. Once excess bill is received, the customers have to run from pillar to post to get the bill rectified. You will not find even a single officer who is interested to satisfy the customers and order for refunds. The Refunds are made to those who are influential either by money or by power. There are 1000 cases in M T N L alone where such excess amounts have been charged for no fault of their customers. 

Maha Corrupt Nigam Ltd. has given mobile connection to all his officers for improvement of sales and service. But the Officers who are directly responsible for M T N L will never pick up the mobile from an unknown number. How to get the service from such officers? Chief General Manger, General Manger, Deputy General Manger every body has been given Mobile. The Chairman should check the usage the mobiles of his own officers. The details of the bills will reveal the true story. The Mobiles facilities given by M T N L for their staff for their personal use uses public service We ourselves have tried all the mobiles nos. but not even a single officer responded. Even SMS sent to them remain unreplied. 

Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited claims that their accounts are fully computerized. But these computerized bills have hundreds of errors that can only be rectified either with Money Power or V I P Power. 

The computerized Department of Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited is issuing refund cheques to customers, who do not have telephone connections. The Chief General Manager is always busy in decorating his own office. He is busy in spending lacs for interior decoration of his office. The Chief General Manager does not know A-B-C of I-T. What types of efficiency do Mr. Sinha, The Chairman Cum Managing Director expects from his C G M of Delhi, the Political Capital. 

Is it not a fit case to be registered against M T N L under section 420? 

More revelations in Coming Editions………


For All Edition of this News Visit www.balancesheetstar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.




Cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India 


This is the 10th Edition of disclosing cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India. 

A Case Vide PE 1 (A) / 2004 bbsr / acu - iii dated 07/01/2004 was registered against Mr. R K Nayak, IAS, The Then Managing Director (Retired) Tribal Cooperative Marketing Development Federation of India Ltd. (TRIFED). 

It is alleged that during 1994-1996, TRIFED entered into several Memorandum of Undertakings with different companies of Mr. J P Lath for procurement of Sai Seeds in violation of laid down rules and allowed undue concession to the companies resulting in huge losses to TRIFED. 

The status of the case is pending under Enquiry. 

More Revelations in Coming Editions.... 


For All Edition of this News Visit www.bureaucracystar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.



 
visit this site www.prajabharat.com
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Bio Data / Curriculum Vitae of the some of The Corrupt Heads of Indian Nationalized Banks 


India is having population of more than One Billion. India is the biggest democratic Country in the world. India's economy is seems to be sound. India's GDP is also improving. Share Market is also booming day by day.Foreign Direct Investments are increasing too. But we should also see the other side of the Coin also. 

The Credentials of some of the Heads of these Nationalized Banks are as follows. 

Punjab National Bank 

Mr. S S Kohli, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank sanctioned and disbursed more than Rs. 30 Crores to an absconder, a Member of Parliament of Bhartiya Janta Party, Mr. Kanak Sinh Mangrola, MP of BJP could get loan on fictitious bills. During Police interrogation, he confessed of paying bribe to the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank. Crores of Rupees have been sanctioned and disbursed to such cheaters and all accounts are either become NPA or will be soon. 

Andhra Bank 

Mr. Naraysami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank, sanctioned and disbursed crores of Rupees to fictitious Exporters. The case was registered by the Prime Investigative Agency, Central Bureau of Investigation, India and some of the officials have been arrested and suspended. During interrogation, they had confessed of involvement of Mr. Naryansami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank. Mr. Narayansami had paid crores of Rupees to officers of Finance Ministry and BJP leaders and hence is scot free, busy in more corruption and threatening this new channel every day. Mr. Naraynsami had sanctioned crores of Rupees to the cheaters, the money of which will never be returned back. 

Bank of Baroda 

Bank of Baroda tried to finance Terrorist Groups involving India, Pakistan, UK, Pakistan, USA and Kuwait. Bank of Baroda's officers counter confirmed the Bank Guarantees of more than U.S. $ 80 millions on forge bills. Mr. P S Shinoy as Chairman cum Managing Director shielded the corrupt officers. 

Bank of Baroda sanctioned Crores of Rupees to more than 100 numbers of fictitious, 100% Export Oriented Units. Central Excise and Customs Department of Government of India have arrested most of the owners of these units. Customs department have already issued crores of Rupees show cause notices to these units. The efficient finance minister of India had already suspended 46 officials of Central Excise and Customs. But Mr. P S Shinoy, as The Chairman Cum Managing Director of Bank is promoting these corrupt officials. On the top of them are Mr. Vaidanathan and Mr. Prabhu, their most trusted lieutenants in this corrupt scandal. 

Unit Trust of India 

Mr. M Damodaran, as Chief of Unit Trust of India and all its subsidiaries sold State Emblem of India for mere Rs. One Lac. (U.S. $ 2000.00), Unit Trust of India had made losses of more than Rs. 10,000 Crores at a time when BJP was in power. There was a large scale corruption in Corruption in UTI and thus UTI had to made losses of more than Rs. 10,000.00. This Unit Trust of India made corruption in printing of PAN cards. Mr. R Damodaran promoted the officials responsible for such large scale corruption. Congress Government could show power and now UTI is relieved from M Damodaran. But no corrupt official have been punished till date. Mr. Damaodarn is still the chief of IDBI and any body can guess the fate of IDBI, another prime Bank of India having multiple objects in Indian economy. 

Vijaya Bank 

In day Light robbery, Mr. M S Kapoor, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Vijaya Bank could manage to steal his file from Banking Vigilance Department. There were serious corruptions allegations against him and the enquiry was in the last stages. Only one or two officials were transferred from Banking Vigilance Department and the enquiry have been kept under abeyance with the orders of some higher authorities. 

Central Bank of India 

During Office Hours, from the office of Under Secretary, Mr. Dalbir Singh , Chairman Cum Managing Director of Central Bank took away his secret Vigilance file. This file was of highly confidential nature and enquiries were in the last stage about serious corruption charges against him. Indian Government has taken no action. Mr. Dalbir Singh was also the Chairman of Indian Bank Association. Under the umbrella of Indian Bank Association, all Indian banks work. 

All what is written above is based on documentation available in Indian Government Files. 

Does it sound good ? Please write your views. 

More revelations will come in coming editions if these Bank Officials and their friends sitting at Top positions allow us to do so … 


For All Edition of this News Visit www.goodmorningstar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.



Most Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited, M T N L, India's Leading and One of The Asia's Largest Telecom Operating Company 


MTNL was setup on Ist April 1986 by The Government of India to upgrade the quality of telecom services, expand the telecom network, introduce new services and to raise revenue for telecom development needs of India's key metros- Delhi, The Political and Mumbai,The Economic Capital of India. 

In the past 17 years, The Company has taken rapid strides to emerge as India's leading and One of Asia's Largest telecom operating companies, Besides having a strong financial base, MTNL has achieved a market share of approximately 13% of the Indian Telecommunication network with a customer base of over 4.98 million lines. 

Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited. All what M T N L claims is not true.

Mahangar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is charging excess amount in monthly bills of their subscribers. Once excess bill is received, the customers have to run from pillar to post to get the bill rectified. You will not find even a single officer who is interested to satisfy the customers and order for refunds. The Refunds are made to those who are influential either by money or by power. There are 1000 cases in M T N L alone where such excess amounts have been charged for no fault of their customers. 

Maha Corrupt Nigam Ltd. has given mobile connection to all his officers for improvement of sales and service. But the Officers who are directly responsible for M T N L will never pick up the mobile from an unknown number. How to get the service from such officers? Chief General Manger, General Manger, Deputy General Manger every body has been given Mobile. The Chairman should check the usage the mobiles of his own officers. The details of the bills will reveal the true story. The Mobiles facilities given by M T N L for their staff for their personal use uses public service We ourselves have tried all the mobiles nos. but not even a single officer responded. Even SMS sent to them remain unreplied. 

Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited claims that their accounts are fully computerized. But these computerized bills have hundreds of errors that can only be rectified either with Money Power or V I P Power. 

The computerized Department of Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited is issuing refund cheques to customers, who do not have telephone connections. The Chief General Manager is always busy in decorating his own office. He is busy in spending lacs for interior decoration of his office. The Chief General Manager does not know A-B-C of I-T. What types of efficiency do Mr. Sinha, The Chairman Cum Managing Director expects from his C G M of Delhi, the Political Capital. 

Is it not a fit case to be registered against M T N L under section 420? 

More revelations in Coming Editions………


For All Edition of this News Visit www.balancesheetstar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.




Cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India 


This is the 10th Edition of disclosing cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India. 

A Case Vide PE 1 (A) / 2004 bbsr / acu - iii dated 07/01/2004 was registered against Mr. R K Nayak, IAS, The Then Managing Director (Retired) Tribal Cooperative Marketing Development Federation of India Ltd. (TRIFED). 

It is alleged that during 1994-1996, TRIFED entered into several Memorandum of Undertakings with different companies of Mr. J P Lath for procurement of Sai Seeds in violation of laid down rules and allowed undue concession to the companies resulting in huge losses to TRIFED. 

The status of the case is pending under Enquiry. 

More Revelations in Coming Editions.... 


For All Edition of this News Visit www.bureaucracystar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.



 
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Bio Data / Curriculum Vitae of the some of The Corrupt Heads of Indian Nationalized Banks 


India is having population of more than One Billion. India is the biggest democratic Country in the world. India's economy is seems to be sound. India's GDP is also improving. Share Market is also booming day by day.Foreign Direct Investments are increasing too. But we should also see the other side of the Coin also. 

The Credentials of some of the Heads of these Nationalized Banks are as follows. 

Punjab National Bank 

Mr. S S Kohli, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank sanctioned and disbursed more than Rs. 30 Crores to an absconder, a Member of Parliament of Bhartiya Janta Party, Mr. Kanak Sinh Mangrola, MP of BJP could get loan on fictitious bills. During Police interrogation, he confessed of paying bribe to the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank. Crores of Rupees have been sanctioned and disbursed to such cheaters and all accounts are either become NPA or will be soon. 

Andhra Bank 

Mr. Naraysami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank, sanctioned and disbursed crores of Rupees to fictitious Exporters. The case was registered by the Prime Investigative Agency, Central Bureau of Investigation, India and some of the officials have been arrested and suspended. During interrogation, they had confessed of involvement of Mr. Naryansami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank. Mr. Narayansami had paid crores of Rupees to officers of Finance Ministry and BJP leaders and hence is scot free, busy in more corruption and threatening this new channel every day. Mr. Naraynsami had sanctioned crores of Rupees to the cheaters, the money of which will never be returned back. 

Bank of Baroda 

Bank of Baroda tried to finance Terrorist Groups involving India, Pakistan, UK, Pakistan, USA and Kuwait. Bank of Baroda's officers counter confirmed the Bank Guarantees of more than U.S. $ 80 millions on forge bills. Mr. P S Shinoy as Chairman cum Managing Director shielded the corrupt officers. 

Bank of Baroda sanctioned Crores of Rupees to more than 100 numbers of fictitious, 100% Export Oriented Units. Central Excise and Customs Department of Government of India have arrested most of the owners of these units. Customs department have already issued crores of Rupees show cause notices to these units. The efficient finance minister of India had already suspended 46 officials of Central Excise and Customs. But Mr. P S Shinoy, as The Chairman Cum Managing Director of Bank is promoting these corrupt officials. On the top of them are Mr. Vaidanathan and Mr. Prabhu, their most trusted lieutenants in this corrupt scandal. 

Unit Trust of India 

Mr. M Damodaran, as Chief of Unit Trust of India and all its subsidiaries sold State Emblem of India for mere Rs. One Lac. (U.S. $ 2000.00), Unit Trust of India had made losses of more than Rs. 10,000 Crores at a time when BJP was in power. There was a large scale corruption in Corruption in UTI and thus UTI had to made losses of more than Rs. 10,000.00. This Unit Trust of India made corruption in printing of PAN cards. Mr. R Damodaran promoted the officials responsible for such large scale corruption. Congress Government could show power and now UTI is relieved from M Damodaran. But no corrupt official have been punished till date. Mr. Damaodarn is still the chief of IDBI and any body can guess the fate of IDBI, another prime Bank of India having multiple objects in Indian economy. 

Vijaya Bank 

In day Light robbery, Mr. M S Kapoor, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Vijaya Bank could manage to steal his file from Banking Vigilance Department. There were serious corruptions allegations against him and the enquiry was in the last stages. Only one or two officials were transferred from Banking Vigilance Department and the enquiry have been kept under abeyance with the orders of some higher authorities. 

Central Bank of India 

During Office Hours, from the office of Under Secretary, Mr. Dalbir Singh , Chairman Cum Managing Director of Central Bank took away his secret Vigilance file. This file was of highly confidential nature and enquiries were in the last stage about serious corruption charges against him. Indian Government has taken no action. Mr. Dalbir Singh was also the Chairman of Indian Bank Association. Under the umbrella of Indian Bank Association, all Indian banks work. 

All what is written above is based on documentation available in Indian Government Files. 

Does it sound good ? Please write your views. 

More revelations will come in coming editions if these Bank Officials and their friends sitting at Top positions allow us to do so … 


For All Edition of this News Visit www.goodmorningstar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.



Most Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited, M T N L, India's Leading and One of The Asia's Largest Telecom Operating Company 


MTNL was setup on Ist April 1986 by The Government of India to upgrade the quality of telecom services, expand the telecom network, introduce new services and to raise revenue for telecom development needs of India's key metros- Delhi, The Political and Mumbai,The Economic Capital of India. 

In the past 17 years, The Company has taken rapid strides to emerge as India's leading and One of Asia's Largest telecom operating companies, Besides having a strong financial base, MTNL has achieved a market share of approximately 13% of the Indian Telecommunication network with a customer base of over 4.98 million lines. 

Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited. All what M T N L claims is not true.

Mahangar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is charging excess amount in monthly bills of their subscribers. Once excess bill is received, the customers have to run from pillar to post to get the bill rectified. You will not find even a single officer who is interested to satisfy the customers and order for refunds. The Refunds are made to those who are influential either by money or by power. There are 1000 cases in M T N L alone where such excess amounts have been charged for no fault of their customers. 

Maha Corrupt Nigam Ltd. has given mobile connection to all his officers for improvement of sales and service. But the Officers who are directly responsible for M T N L will never pick up the mobile from an unknown number. How to get the service from such officers? Chief General Manger, General Manger, Deputy General Manger every body has been given Mobile. The Chairman should check the usage the mobiles of his own officers. The details of the bills will reveal the true story. The Mobiles facilities given by M T N L for their staff for their personal use uses public service We ourselves have tried all the mobiles nos. but not even a single officer responded. Even SMS sent to them remain unreplied. 

Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited claims that their accounts are fully computerized. But these computerized bills have hundreds of errors that can only be rectified either with Money Power or V I P Power. 

The computerized Department of Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited is issuing refund cheques to customers, who do not have telephone connections. The Chief General Manager is always busy in decorating his own office. He is busy in spending lacs for interior decoration of his office. The Chief General Manager does not know A-B-C of I-T. What types of efficiency do Mr. Sinha, The Chairman Cum Managing Director expects from his C G M of Delhi, the Political Capital. 

Is it not a fit case to be registered against M T N L under section 420? 

More revelations in Coming Editions………


For All Edition of this News Visit www.balancesheetstar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.




Cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India 


This is the 10th Edition of disclosing cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India. 

A Case Vide PE 1 (A) / 2004 bbsr / acu - iii dated 07/01/2004 was registered against Mr. R K Nayak, IAS, The Then Managing Director (Retired) Tribal Cooperative Marketing Development Federation of India Ltd. (TRIFED). 

It is alleged that during 1994-1996, TRIFED entered into several Memorandum of Undertakings with different companies of Mr. J P Lath for procurement of Sai Seeds in violation of laid down rules and allowed undue concession to the companies resulting in huge losses to TRIFED. 

The status of the case is pending under Enquiry. 

More Revelations in Coming Editions.... 


For All Edition of this News Visit www.bureaucracystar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.



 
visit this site www.prajabharat.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group. 


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Bio Data / Curriculum Vitae of the some of The Corrupt Heads of Indian Nationalized Banks 


India is having population of more than One Billion. India is the biggest democratic Country in the world. India's economy is seems to be sound. India's GDP is also improving. Share Market is also booming day by day.Foreign Direct Investments are increasing too. But we should also see the other side of the Coin also. 

The Credentials of some of the Heads of these Nationalized Banks are as follows. 

Punjab National Bank 

Mr. S S Kohli, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank sanctioned and disbursed more than Rs. 30 Crores to an absconder, a Member of Parliament of Bhartiya Janta Party, Mr. Kanak Sinh Mangrola, MP of BJP could get loan on fictitious bills. During Police interrogation, he confessed of paying bribe to the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank. Crores of Rupees have been sanctioned and disbursed to such cheaters and all accounts are either become NPA or will be soon. 

Andhra Bank 

Mr. Naraysami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank, sanctioned and disbursed crores of Rupees to fictitious Exporters. The case was registered by the Prime Investigative Agency, Central Bureau of Investigation, India and some of the officials have been arrested and suspended. During interrogation, they had confessed of involvement of Mr. Naryansami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank. Mr. Narayansami had paid crores of Rupees to officers of Finance Ministry and BJP leaders and hence is scot free, busy in more corruption and threatening this new channel every day. Mr. Naraynsami had sanctioned crores of Rupees to the cheaters, the money of which will never be returned back. 

Bank of Baroda 

Bank of Baroda tried to finance Terrorist Groups involving India, Pakistan, UK, Pakistan, USA and Kuwait. Bank of Baroda's officers counter confirmed the Bank Guarantees of more than U.S. $ 80 millions on forge bills. Mr. P S Shinoy as Chairman cum Managing Director shielded the corrupt officers. 

Bank of Baroda sanctioned Crores of Rupees to more than 100 numbers of fictitious, 100% Export Oriented Units. Central Excise and Customs Department of Government of India have arrested most of the owners of these units. Customs department have already issued crores of Rupees show cause notices to these units. The efficient finance minister of India had already suspended 46 officials of Central Excise and Customs. But Mr. P S Shinoy, as The Chairman Cum Managing Director of Bank is promoting these corrupt officials. On the top of them are Mr. Vaidanathan and Mr. Prabhu, their most trusted lieutenants in this corrupt scandal. 

Unit Trust of India 

Mr. M Damodaran, as Chief of Unit Trust of India and all its subsidiaries sold State Emblem of India for mere Rs. One Lac. (U.S. $ 2000.00), Unit Trust of India had made losses of more than Rs. 10,000 Crores at a time when BJP was in power. There was a large scale corruption in Corruption in UTI and thus UTI had to made losses of more than Rs. 10,000.00. This Unit Trust of India made corruption in printing of PAN cards. Mr. R Damodaran promoted the officials responsible for such large scale corruption. Congress Government could show power and now UTI is relieved from M Damodaran. But no corrupt official have been punished till date. Mr. Damaodarn is still the chief of IDBI and any body can guess the fate of IDBI, another prime Bank of India having multiple objects in Indian economy. 

Vijaya Bank 

In day Light robbery, Mr. M S Kapoor, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Vijaya Bank could manage to steal his file from Banking Vigilance Department. There were serious corruptions allegations against him and the enquiry was in the last stages. Only one or two officials were transferred from Banking Vigilance Department and the enquiry have been kept under abeyance with the orders of some higher authorities. 

Central Bank of India 

During Office Hours, from the office of Under Secretary, Mr. Dalbir Singh , Chairman Cum Managing Director of Central Bank took away his secret Vigilance file. This file was of highly confidential nature and enquiries were in the last stage about serious corruption charges against him. Indian Government has taken no action. Mr. Dalbir Singh was also the Chairman of Indian Bank Association. Under the umbrella of Indian Bank Association, all Indian banks work. 

All what is written above is based on documentation available in Indian Government Files. 

Does it sound good ? Please write your views. 

More revelations will come in coming editions if these Bank Officials and their friends sitting at Top positions allow us to do so … 


For All Edition of this News Visit www.goodmorningstar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.



Most Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited, M T N L, India's Leading and One of The Asia's Largest Telecom Operating Company 


MTNL was setup on Ist April 1986 by The Government of India to upgrade the quality of telecom services, expand the telecom network, introduce new services and to raise revenue for telecom development needs of India's key metros- Delhi, The Political and Mumbai,The Economic Capital of India. 

In the past 17 years, The Company has taken rapid strides to emerge as India's leading and One of Asia's Largest telecom operating companies, Besides having a strong financial base, MTNL has achieved a market share of approximately 13% of the Indian Telecommunication network with a customer base of over 4.98 million lines. 

Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited. All what M T N L claims is not true.

Mahangar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is charging excess amount in monthly bills of their subscribers. Once excess bill is received, the customers have to run from pillar to post to get the bill rectified. You will not find even a single officer who is interested to satisfy the customers and order for refunds. The Refunds are made to those who are influential either by money or by power. There are 1000 cases in M T N L alone where such excess amounts have been charged for no fault of their customers. 

Maha Corrupt Nigam Ltd. has given mobile connection to all his officers for improvement of sales and service. But the Officers who are directly responsible for M T N L will never pick up the mobile from an unknown number. How to get the service from such officers? Chief General Manger, General Manger, Deputy General Manger every body has been given Mobile. The Chairman should check the usage the mobiles of his own officers. The details of the bills will reveal the true story. The Mobiles facilities given by M T N L for their staff for their personal use uses public service We ourselves have tried all the mobiles nos. but not even a single officer responded. Even SMS sent to them remain unreplied. 

Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited claims that their accounts are fully computerized. But these computerized bills have hundreds of errors that can only be rectified either with Money Power or V I P Power. 

The computerized Department of Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited is issuing refund cheques to customers, who do not have telephone connections. The Chief General Manager is always busy in decorating his own office. He is busy in spending lacs for interior decoration of his office. The Chief General Manager does not know A-B-C of I-T. What types of efficiency do Mr. Sinha, The Chairman Cum Managing Director expects from his C G M of Delhi, the Political Capital. 

Is it not a fit case to be registered against M T N L under section 420? 

More revelations in Coming Editions………


For All Edition of this News Visit www.balancesheetstar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.




Cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India 


This is the 10th Edition of disclosing cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India. 

A Case Vide PE 1 (A) / 2004 bbsr / acu - iii dated 07/01/2004 was registered against Mr. R K Nayak, IAS, The Then Managing Director (Retired) Tribal Cooperative Marketing Development Federation of India Ltd. (TRIFED). 

It is alleged that during 1994-1996, TRIFED entered into several Memorandum of Undertakings with different companies of Mr. J P Lath for procurement of Sai Seeds in violation of laid down rules and allowed undue concession to the companies resulting in huge losses to TRIFED. 

The status of the case is pending under Enquiry. 

More Revelations in Coming Editions.... 


For All Edition of this News Visit www.bureaucracystar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.



 
visit this site www.prajabharat.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group. 


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Bio Data / Curriculum Vitae of the some of The Corrupt Heads of Indian Nationalized Banks 


India is having population of more than One Billion. India is the biggest democratic Country in the world. India's economy is seems to be sound. India's GDP is also improving. Share Market is also booming day by day.Foreign Direct Investments are increasing too. But we should also see the other side of the Coin also. 

The Credentials of some of the Heads of these Nationalized Banks are as follows. 

Punjab National Bank 

Mr. S S Kohli, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank sanctioned and disbursed more than Rs. 30 Crores to an absconder, a Member of Parliament of Bhartiya Janta Party, Mr. Kanak Sinh Mangrola, MP of BJP could get loan on fictitious bills. During Police interrogation, he confessed of paying bribe to the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank. Crores of Rupees have been sanctioned and disbursed to such cheaters and all accounts are either become NPA or will be soon. 

Andhra Bank 

Mr. Naraysami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank, sanctioned and disbursed crores of Rupees to fictitious Exporters. The case was registered by the Prime Investigative Agency, Central Bureau of Investigation, India and some of the officials have been arrested and suspended. During interrogation, they had confessed of involvement of Mr. Naryansami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank. Mr. Narayansami had paid crores of Rupees to officers of Finance Ministry and BJP leaders and hence is scot free, busy in more corruption and threatening this new channel every day. Mr. Naraynsami had sanctioned crores of Rupees to the cheaters, the money of which will never be returned back. 

Bank of Baroda 

Bank of Baroda tried to finance Terrorist Groups involving India, Pakistan, UK, Pakistan, USA and Kuwait. Bank of Baroda's officers counter confirmed the Bank Guarantees of more than U.S. $ 80 millions on forge bills. Mr. P S Shinoy as Chairman cum Managing Director shielded the corrupt officers. 

Bank of Baroda sanctioned Crores of Rupees to more than 100 numbers of fictitious, 100% Export Oriented Units. Central Excise and Customs Department of Government of India have arrested most of the owners of these units. Customs department have already issued crores of Rupees show cause notices to these units. The efficient finance minister of India had already suspended 46 officials of Central Excise and Customs. But Mr. P S Shinoy, as The Chairman Cum Managing Director of Bank is promoting these corrupt officials. On the top of them are Mr. Vaidanathan and Mr. Prabhu, their most trusted lieutenants in this corrupt scandal. 

Unit Trust of India 

Mr. M Damodaran, as Chief of Unit Trust of India and all its subsidiaries sold State Emblem of India for mere Rs. One Lac. (U.S. $ 2000.00), Unit Trust of India had made losses of more than Rs. 10,000 Crores at a time when BJP was in power. There was a large scale corruption in Corruption in UTI and thus UTI had to made losses of more than Rs. 10,000.00. This Unit Trust of India made corruption in printing of PAN cards. Mr. R Damodaran promoted the officials responsible for such large scale corruption. Congress Government could show power and now UTI is relieved from M Damodaran. But no corrupt official have been punished till date. Mr. Damaodarn is still the chief of IDBI and any body can guess the fate of IDBI, another prime Bank of India having multiple objects in Indian economy. 

Vijaya Bank 

In day Light robbery, Mr. M S Kapoor, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Vijaya Bank could manage to steal his file from Banking Vigilance Department. There were serious corruptions allegations against him and the enquiry was in the last stages. Only one or two officials were transferred from Banking Vigilance Department and the enquiry have been kept under abeyance with the orders of some higher authorities. 

Central Bank of India 

During Office Hours, from the office of Under Secretary, Mr. Dalbir Singh , Chairman Cum Managing Director of Central Bank took away his secret Vigilance file. This file was of highly confidential nature and enquiries were in the last stage about serious corruption charges against him. Indian Government has taken no action. Mr. Dalbir Singh was also the Chairman of Indian Bank Association. Under the umbrella of Indian Bank Association, all Indian banks work. 

All what is written above is based on documentation available in Indian Government Files. 

Does it sound good ? Please write your views. 

More revelations will come in coming editions if these Bank Officials and their friends sitting at Top positions allow us to do so … 


For All Edition of this News Visit www.goodmorningstar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.



Most Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited, M T N L, India's Leading and One of The Asia's Largest Telecom Operating Company 


MTNL was setup on Ist April 1986 by The Government of India to upgrade the quality of telecom services, expand the telecom network, introduce new services and to raise revenue for telecom development needs of India's key metros- Delhi, The Political and Mumbai,The Economic Capital of India. 

In the past 17 years, The Company has taken rapid strides to emerge as India's leading and One of Asia's Largest telecom operating companies, Besides having a strong financial base, MTNL has achieved a market share of approximately 13% of the Indian Telecommunication network with a customer base of over 4.98 million lines. 

Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited. All what M T N L claims is not true.

Mahangar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is charging excess amount in monthly bills of their subscribers. Once excess bill is received, the customers have to run from pillar to post to get the bill rectified. You will not find even a single officer who is interested to satisfy the customers and order for refunds. The Refunds are made to those who are influential either by money or by power. There are 1000 cases in M T N L alone where such excess amounts have been charged for no fault of their customers. 

Maha Corrupt Nigam Ltd. has given mobile connection to all his officers for improvement of sales and service. But the Officers who are directly responsible for M T N L will never pick up the mobile from an unknown number. How to get the service from such officers? Chief General Manger, General Manger, Deputy General Manger every body has been given Mobile. The Chairman should check the usage the mobiles of his own officers. The details of the bills will reveal the true story. The Mobiles facilities given by M T N L for their staff for their personal use uses public service We ourselves have tried all the mobiles nos. but not even a single officer responded. Even SMS sent to them remain unreplied. 

Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited claims that their accounts are fully computerized. But these computerized bills have hundreds of errors that can only be rectified either with Money Power or V I P Power. 

The computerized Department of Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited is issuing refund cheques to customers, who do not have telephone connections. The Chief General Manager is always busy in decorating his own office. He is busy in spending lacs for interior decoration of his office. The Chief General Manager does not know A-B-C of I-T. What types of efficiency do Mr. Sinha, The Chairman Cum Managing Director expects from his C G M of Delhi, the Political Capital. 

Is it not a fit case to be registered against M T N L under section 420? 

More revelations in Coming Editions………


For All Edition of this News Visit www.balancesheetstar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.




Cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India 


This is the 10th Edition of disclosing cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India. 

A Case Vide PE 1 (A) / 2004 bbsr / acu - iii dated 07/01/2004 was registered against Mr. R K Nayak, IAS, The Then Managing Director (Retired) Tribal Cooperative Marketing Development Federation of India Ltd. (TRIFED). 

It is alleged that during 1994-1996, TRIFED entered into several Memorandum of Undertakings with different companies of Mr. J P Lath for procurement of Sai Seeds in violation of laid down rules and allowed undue concession to the companies resulting in huge losses to TRIFED. 

The status of the case is pending under Enquiry. 

More Revelations in Coming Editions.... 


For All Edition of this News Visit www.bureaucracystar.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group.



 
visit this site www.prajabharat.com
Visit www.nuurriestar.com For 21 news sites Under Nuurrie Media Limited group. 


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Bio Data / Curriculum Vitae of the some of The Corrupt Heads of Indian Nationalized Banks 


India is having population of more than One Billion. India is the biggest democratic Country in the world. India's economy is seems to be sound. India's GDP is also improving. Share Market is also booming day by day.Foreign Direct Investments are increasing too. But we should also see the other side of the Coin also. 

The Credentials of some of the Heads of these Nationalized Banks are as follows. 

Punjab National Bank 

Mr. S S Kohli, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank sanctioned and disbursed more than Rs. 30 Crores to an absconder, a Member of Parliament of Bhartiya Janta Party, Mr. Kanak Sinh Mangrola, MP of BJP could get loan on fictitious bills. During Police interrogation, he confessed of paying bribe to the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Punjab National Bank. Crores of Rupees have been sanctioned and disbursed to such cheaters and all accounts are either become NPA or will be soon. 

Andhra Bank 

Mr. Naraysami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank, sanctioned and disbursed crores of Rupees to fictitious Exporters. The case was registered by the Prime Investigative Agency, Central Bureau of Investigation, India and some of the officials have been arrested and suspended. During interrogation, they had confessed of involvement of Mr. Naryansami, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Andhra Bank. Mr. Narayansami had paid crores of Rupees to officers of Finance Ministry and BJP leaders and hence is scot free, busy in more corruption and threatening this new channel every day. Mr. Naraynsami had sanctioned crores of Rupees to the cheaters, the money of which will never be returned back. 

Bank of Baroda 

Bank of Baroda tried to finance Terrorist Groups involving India, Pakistan, UK, Pakistan, USA and Kuwait. Bank of Baroda's officers counter confirmed the Bank Guarantees of more than U.S. $ 80 millions on forge bills. Mr. P S Shinoy as Chairman cum Managing Director shielded the corrupt officers. 

Bank of Baroda sanctioned Crores of Rupees to more than 100 numbers of fictitious, 100% Export Oriented Units. Central Excise and Customs Department of Government of India have arrested most of the owners of these units. Customs department have already issued crores of Rupees show cause notices to these units. The efficient finance minister of India had already suspended 46 officials of Central Excise and Customs. But Mr. P S Shinoy, as The Chairman Cum Managing Director of Bank is promoting these corrupt officials. On the top of them are Mr. Vaidanathan and Mr. Prabhu, their most trusted lieutenants in this corrupt scandal. 

Unit Trust of India 

Mr. M Damodaran, as Chief of Unit Trust of India and all its subsidiaries sold State Emblem of India for mere Rs. One Lac. (U.S. $ 2000.00), Unit Trust of India had made losses of more than Rs. 10,000 Crores at a time when BJP was in power. There was a large scale corruption in Corruption in UTI and thus UTI had to made losses of more than Rs. 10,000.00. This Unit Trust of India made corruption in printing of PAN cards. Mr. R Damodaran promoted the officials responsible for such large scale corruption. Congress Government could show power and now UTI is relieved from M Damodaran. But no corrupt official have been punished till date. Mr. Damaodarn is still the chief of IDBI and any body can guess the fate of IDBI, another prime Bank of India having multiple objects in Indian economy. 

Vijaya Bank 

In day Light robbery, Mr. M S Kapoor, the Chairman Cum Managing Director of Vijaya Bank could manage to steal his file from Banking Vigilance Department. There were serious corruptions allegations against him and the enquiry was in the last stages. Only one or two officials were transferred from Banking Vigilance Department and the enquiry have been kept under abeyance with the orders of some higher authorities. 

Central Bank of India 

During Office Hours, from the office of Under Secretary, Mr. Dalbir Singh , Chairman Cum Managing Director of Central Bank took away his secret Vigilance file. This file was of highly confidential nature and enquiries were in the last stage about serious corruption charges against him. Indian Government has taken no action. Mr. Dalbir Singh was also the Chairman of Indian Bank Association. Under the umbrella of Indian Bank Association, all Indian banks work. 

All what is written above is based on documentation available in Indian Government Files. 

Does it sound good ? Please write your views. 

More revelations will come in coming editions if these Bank Officials and their friends sitting at Top positions allow us to do so … 


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Most Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited, M T N L, India's Leading and One of The Asia's Largest Telecom Operating Company 


MTNL was setup on Ist April 1986 by The Government of India to upgrade the quality of telecom services, expand the telecom network, introduce new services and to raise revenue for telecom development needs of India's key metros- Delhi, The Political and Mumbai,The Economic Capital of India. 

In the past 17 years, The Company has taken rapid strides to emerge as India's leading and One of Asia's Largest telecom operating companies, Besides having a strong financial base, MTNL has achieved a market share of approximately 13% of the Indian Telecommunication network with a customer base of over 4.98 million lines. 

Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited. All what M T N L claims is not true.

Mahangar Telephone Nigam Ltd. is charging excess amount in monthly bills of their subscribers. Once excess bill is received, the customers have to run from pillar to post to get the bill rectified. You will not find even a single officer who is interested to satisfy the customers and order for refunds. The Refunds are made to those who are influential either by money or by power. There are 1000 cases in M T N L alone where such excess amounts have been charged for no fault of their customers. 

Maha Corrupt Nigam Ltd. has given mobile connection to all his officers for improvement of sales and service. But the Officers who are directly responsible for M T N L will never pick up the mobile from an unknown number. How to get the service from such officers? Chief General Manger, General Manger, Deputy General Manger every body has been given Mobile. The Chairman should check the usage the mobiles of his own officers. The details of the bills will reveal the true story. The Mobiles facilities given by M T N L for their staff for their personal use uses public service We ourselves have tried all the mobiles nos. but not even a single officer responded. Even SMS sent to them remain unreplied. 

Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited claims that their accounts are fully computerized. But these computerized bills have hundreds of errors that can only be rectified either with Money Power or V I P Power. 

The computerized Department of Maha Corrupt Telephone Nigam Limited is issuing refund cheques to customers, who do not have telephone connections. The Chief General Manager is always busy in decorating his own office. He is busy in spending lacs for interior decoration of his office. The Chief General Manager does not know A-B-C of I-T. What types of efficiency do Mr. Sinha, The Chairman Cum Managing Director expects from his C G M of Delhi, the Political Capital. 

Is it not a fit case to be registered against M T N L under section 420? 

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Cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India 


This is the 10th Edition of disclosing cases against Senior Government Officers of Government of India. 

A Case Vide PE 1 (A) / 2004 bbsr / acu - iii dated 07/01/2004 was registered against Mr. R K Nayak, IAS, The Then Managing Director (Retired) Tribal Cooperative Marketing Development Federation of India Ltd. (TRIFED). 

It is alleged that during 1994-1996, TRIFED entered into several Memorandum of Undertakings with different companies of Mr. J P Lath for procurement of Sai Seeds in violation of laid down rules and allowed undue concession to the companies resulting in huge losses to TRIFED. 

The status of the case is pending under Enquiry. 

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I believe when God gives me a second chance to come to this world I would live my life a different way from how I have lived it. Now that I know my time is near, I have willed and given most of my properties and assets to my immediate and extended family members and as well as a few close friends and Schools in the UAE. I have decided to give alms to charity organizations, as I want this to be one of the last good deeds I do on earth. So far, I have distributed money to some charity organizations Now that my health has deteriorated so badly, I cannot do this my self any more.

I once asked members of my family to close one of my accounts and donate the money, which I have there to charity rganization in Bulgaria, they refused and kept the money to themselves. Hence, I do not trust them anymore, as they seem not to be contended with what I have left for them. The last of my money which is the huge cash deposit that I have with Financial Firm Abroad .

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@ 2005-01-21 21:48 Luc Teirlinck
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In current CVS, the *Find* buffer can _already_ be reverted using `g'.

Sincerely,

Luc.

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Hi, all.

How can I customize the character size that comes out when printing a file?
I mean, when I print a file, characters are too small,
I want them larger. How can I do?
Besides, there is a heading with date and time on the left,
the buffer's name followed by `Emacs buffer' in the centre and the page number
right.
How can I customize this also at my pleasure, e.g. eliminate the date and time
and `Emacs buffer'
and put the page number on the page bottom instead of on the page top?

Thanks,
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@ 2005-03-02  2:26 Chong Yidong
  2005-03-02  3:02 ` Luc Teirlinck
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Could this patch be checked in? When require-final-newlines is t, the
newline is inserted by (insert "\n"), which does not take
use-hard-newlines into account, so the newline is not marked as 'hard.


*** emacs/lisp/files.el~	Tue Mar  1 22:13:16 2005
--- emacs/lisp/files.el	Wed Mar  2 10:16:52 2005
***************
*** 1661,1667 ****
  		   (= (char-after (1- (point-max))) ?\r)))
  	 (save-excursion
  	   (goto-char (point-max))
! 	   (insert "\n")))
      (when (and buffer-read-only
  	       view-read-only
  	       (not (eq (get major-mode 'mode-class) 'special)))
--- 1661,1667 ----
  		   (= (char-after (1- (point-max))) ?\r)))
  	 (save-excursion
  	   (goto-char (point-max))
! 	   (newline)))
      (when (and buffer-read-only
  	       view-read-only
  	       (not (eq (get major-mode 'mode-class) 'special)))
***************
*** 3244,3250 ****
  				     (buffer-name)))))
  		   (save-excursion
  		     (goto-char (point-max))
! 		     (insert ?\n))))
  	    ;; Support VC version backups.
  	    (vc-before-save)
  	    (run-hooks 'before-save-hook)
--- 3244,3250 ----
  				     (buffer-name)))))
  		   (save-excursion
  		     (goto-char (point-max))
! 		     (newline))))
  	    ;; Support VC version backups.
  	    (vc-before-save)
  	    (run-hooks 'before-save-hook)

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@ 2005-03-02  3:02 ` Luc Teirlinck
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Chong Yidong wrote:

   Could this patch be checked in? When require-final-newlines is t, the
   newline is inserted by (insert "\n"), which does not take
   use-hard-newlines into account, so the newline is not marked as 'hard.

Are you really _sure_ that a newline inserted by saving a buffer
should be hard if use-hard-newlines is enabled?  I would guess that
people might occasionally save their work to file while in the middle
of a long paragraph, in which case the inserted newline should be
soft.  I guess that if people want to mark the end of a paragraph
before saving, they would explicitly type RET.

What situation are you thinking of that would motivate making C-x C-s
insert a hard newline?

Sincerely,

Luc.

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@ 2005-03-08 14:48 Gian Uberto Lauri
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Sorry if this breaks the threading...

>>>>> "UH" == Ulrich Hobelmann <u.hobelmann@web.de> writes:

UH> Thanks!  That solves the display problem.

UH> Emacs doesn't work with the Mac input method, though (alt-s doesn't do
UH> ß, but §).  I suspect the Alt key is mapped for something...

Using the  Emacs Input Method  (I prefer this  since I use Emacs  in 3
differnt OS) solves the problem.  You can choose between german prefix
where ß  is the result  of the sequence  " and s (prefix  version work
somethin  like iso-accents-mode,  so wovels  with umlauts  are entered
with the sequence " (wovel)) and german postfix where you get the same
result by hitting  s and then z. In this mode  wovels with umlauts are
entered typing what I think is  the "no umlaut version" of the word (I
don't speak German -blame on me- so I'm not sure...).

>> Hmmm...  I think thak  the use  of mac  roman is  in second  place for
>> deserving  a  rightful  spanking  (for  Apple  developers)  after  the
>> implementation of cp, mv and so on ... :)
>>

UH> What's wrong with cp, mv ...?
UH> Aren't they just from FreeBSD?

The commands  do come  from BSD  or GNU. But  the filesystem  not, and
those smarties did not adapt the commands to the filesystem.

So  if  you cp  a  file  you cp  just  the  data  losing the  extended
attributes.  mv  should behave  likewise too.  There  are a  couple of
utilities that fix this in the development stuff. I never used them as
I use my iMac  as a Unix box and I don't care  of the other file forks
(btw does someone know a free  utility to repartition the disk to make
place to an healy Debian GNU/Linux ?).

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@ 2005-03-26 19:53 Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle
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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> >  '(ps-font-family (quote Palatino))
> >  '(ps-lpr-command "lp")
> >  '(ps-multibyte-buffer (quote bdf-font-except-latin))
> >  '(ps-paper-type (quote a4))
> >  '(ps-printer-name-option "")
> > 
> > I guess that's what you mean, right?
> 
> I don't know, since I don't quite understand where this fragment
> belongs to.

Ok, here's the part of the documentation (M-x customize-variable
ps-multibyte-buffer)

......snip.....

Valid values are:

  nil                     This is the value to use the default settings which
			  is by default for printing buffer with only ASCII
			  and Latin characters.  The default setting can be
			  changed by setting the variable
			  `ps-mule-font-info-database-default' differently.
			  The initial value of this variable is
			  `ps-mule-font-info-database-latin' (see
			  documentation).

  `non-latin-printer'     This is the value to use when you have a Japanese
			  or Korean PostScript printer and want to print
			  buffer with ASCII, Latin-1, Japanese (JISX0208 and
			  JISX0201-Kana) and Korean characters.  At present,
			  it was not tested the Korean characters printing.
			  If you have a korean PostScript printer, please,
			  test it.

  `bdf-font'              This is the value to use when you want to print
			  buffer with BDF fonts.  BDF fonts include both latin
			  and non-latin fonts.  BDF (Bitmap Distribution
			  Format) is a format used for distributing X's font
			  source file.  BDF fonts are included in
			  `intlfonts-1.2' which is a collection of X11 fonts
			  for all characters supported by Emacs.  In order to
			  use this value, be sure to have installed
			  `intlfonts-1.2' and set the variable
			  `bdf-directory-list' appropriately (see lips-bdf.el for
			  documentation of this variable).

  `bdf-font-except-latin' This is like `bdf-font' except that it is used
			  PostScript default fonts to print ASCII and Latin-1
			  characters.  This is convenient when you want or
			  need to use both latin and non-latin characters on
			  the same buffer.  See `ps-font-family',
			  `ps-header-font-family' and `ps-font-info-database'.

Any other value is treated as nil.

......snip.....

so, the default setting is `nil' ... and Umlauts ARE latin characters, so
I would wonder why `nil' wouldn't fit well.  Ok, anyway, setting to
`bdf-font-except-latin' didn't change that behaviour.  I checked with simply
printing the buffer - without postscripting - which works fine including
all the Umlauts.  Also a2ps works fine printing Umlauts.

> Could you simply set the option manually, before using
> ps-print-buffer, and see if that helps?

Did that too ... no effect ...

> You also need to restart Emacs after changing .emacs.

Oh ... I thought "byte-compile and load"  would do the same ... sorry.
Anyway, I left emacs and restarted without any changed behaviour.

> > no Umlauts with PS Print Buffer (B+W).
> 
> What do you see in print instead of Umlauts?

fine lined carrets

> Also, does your Postscript printer support Umlauts and other accented
> characters?

As said above, all other printing-systems work without any problems.
Btw, I use a HP LaserJet4000N ... a network printer - and I checked
before if the fonts (palatino) are supported ... they certainly are.

> Finally, what Latin-N encoding do you use by default in your Emacs?
> That is, what is your locale?

ray@atmalok:~$ echo $LANG
de_DE@euro

ray@atmalok:~$ cat /etc/locale.gen
de_DE ISO-8859-1
de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8
de_DE.UTF-8@euro UTF-8
de_DE@euro ISO-8859-15
en_US ISO-8859-1
en_US.ISO-8859-15 ISO-8859-15
en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8


my .emacs holds the following settings:

'(current-language-environment "Latin-9")
'(default-input-method "latin-9-prefix")

... I need latin-9 prefix since I use a US keyboard

well ... bunches of informations here ... :-)

ray

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@ 2005-03-26 22:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2005-03-26 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw)


> Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:53:13 +0100
> From: Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle <Raimund.Kohl@nabuli.de>
> 
> Any other value is treated as nil.
> 
> ......snip.....
> 
> so, the default setting is `nil' ... and Umlauts ARE latin characters, so
> I would wonder why `nil' wouldn't fit well.

Because "Latin" doesn't mean "Latin-9".

> Ok, anyway, setting to
> `bdf-font-except-latin' didn't change that behaviour.

Something's clearly wrong, but I cannot figure out what.  You will
have to debug this yourself.  One thing I'd do is print to a file (use
ps-print-buffer with a numeric argument, and it will prompt for a file
name), then look at that file to see what stands for the accented
characters there.

> I checked with simply printing the buffer - without postscripting -
> which works fine including all the Umlauts.

That's not a good test: `print-buffer' uses an entirely different way
of printing, and also doesn't switch the printer into the Postscript
mode.

> Also a2ps works fine printing Umlauts.

So you could redirect a2ps's output to a file and compare what it
produces for Latin-9 characters with what ps-print-buffer produces for
the same characters.

> > > no Umlauts with PS Print Buffer (B+W).
> > 
> > What do you see in print instead of Umlauts?
> 
> fine lined carrets

Sorry, I don't understand this.  Can you explain what it means?

> > Also, does your Postscript printer support Umlauts and other accented
> > characters?
> 
> As said above, all other printing-systems work without any problems.
> Btw, I use a HP LaserJet4000N ... a network printer - and I checked
> before if the fonts (palatino) are supported ... they certainly are.

If you print out the entire Palatino font in your printer, does it
include accented Latin-9 characters?

> my .emacs holds the following settings:
> 
> '(current-language-environment "Latin-9")
> '(default-input-method "latin-9-prefix")

So you are using Latin-9.  I wonder if using Latin-1 instead will
help resolve your problem.

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@ 2005-04-01 15:37 Jay Cotton
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From: Jay Cotton @ 2005-04-01 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)


I am using a version of emacs for OS X. Does anybody know how to 
reference the Macintosh Command key (Apple key) in elisp? (I would like 
to add a global-set-key function call for the command key in my .emacs 
file.)

Thanks,
Jay

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@ 2005-04-11 17:51 kjuhgyftgj
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@ 2005-04-13  6:26 luca.spinacci
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I'm using Emacs 21.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.0.2195) of 2004-03-10 on NYAUMO.

I would like to set the value c++-comment-indent for
comment-indent-function in c++-mode
but opening a c/c++ file/buffer the above value is c-comment-indent locally
to that buffer
and globally c++-comment-indent (...used (setq comment-indent-function
'c++-comment-indent) in .emacs file).

Thanks in advance.
Luca.

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@ 2005-04-18  9:34 Felix Cohen
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  Cc: Felix Cohen

Hey,
	My name is Felix Cohen, and I am a researcher at Bath University, 
England. I am currently undertaking research to investigate the 
relationships between motivation and other factors on F/OSS developers 
and users.
	To this end, we have put a questionnaire online for developers to fill 
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	Please complete the form honestly. All results will be anonymised, and 
the final research will be published on the website.
	
Thanks,

Felix

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@ 2005-04-22  7:37 smartlitchi
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a question is the indent style of emacs default is just like
public void helloWorld()
{
  if(today.weather == find)
    {
      System.out.println("oh~ a fine day~");
    }
}
but actually the style I expect is 
public void helloWorld()
{
  if(today.weather == find)
  {
    System.out.println("oh~ a fine day~");
  }
}
you may notice that the position of { } of the if loop has been changed
to be accord with that if statement, seems this is the recommand code 
style of Sun's documentation
but I can't find how to change emacs's default indent style to this

Best regards
Litchi



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  2005-04-22  7:37 smartlitchi
@ 2005-04-22  8:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2005-04-22  8:01 UTC (permalink / raw)


> Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2005 15:37:11 +0800
> From: smartlitchi@gmail.com
> 
> a question is the indent style of emacs default is just like
> public void helloWorld()
> {
>   if(today.weather == find)
>     {
>       System.out.println("oh~ a fine day~");
>     }
> }
> but actually the style I expect is 
> public void helloWorld()
> {
>   if(today.weather == find)
>   {
>     System.out.println("oh~ a fine day~");
>   }
> }
> you may notice that the position of { } of the if loop has been changed
> to be accord with that if statement, seems this is the recommand code 
> style of Sun's documentation
> but I can't find how to change emacs's default indent style to this

It's in the docs.  Launch Emacs, then type the following key sequence:

  C-h i d m CC mode RET g Interactive Customization RET

You will be presented with a section that walks you thru interactive
customization procedure of the indentation engine.  Once you found the
changes you want, read the next section, "Permanent Customization",
which will tell you how to record your changes in your ~/.emacs file.

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       [not found] <01c54b24$Blat.v2.4$0ddb2a20@zahav.net.il>
@ 2005-04-28 11:00 ` Richard Stallman
  2005-04-28 18:56   ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2005-04-28 11:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

    Richard, you never responded to my questions, nor made any changes in
    the related files.

You sent me that message three days ago, so I read it two days ago.
It is ridiculous to tell someone "you never responded" after just two
days.  Please give me some slack!

I think you will have to wait a few more days.  I have got 450
messages since yesterday evening, and I am behind 30 messages just
from today.

With luck I will have time to catch up this weekend.
I cannot promise it.

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@ 2005-04-28 17:03 易友商务
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  2005-04-28 11:00 ` Richard Stallman
@ 2005-04-28 18:56   ` Eli Zaretskii
  2005-04-29 10:14     ` Richard Stallman
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2005-04-28 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:00:48 -0400
> 
>     Richard, you never responded to my questions, nor made any changes in
>     the related files.
> 
> You sent me that message three days ago, so I read it two days ago.
> It is ridiculous to tell someone "you never responded" after just two
> days.  Please give me some slack!

I did.  I waited until I saw your responses to other messages which
were posted after the one I referred to.  After I saw those responses,
I naturally assumed that you somehow missed mine.

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  2005-04-28 18:56   ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2005-04-29 10:14     ` Richard Stallman
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2005-04-29 10:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

    I did.  I waited until I saw your responses to other messages which
    were posted after the one I referred to.  After I saw those responses,
    I naturally assumed that you somehow missed mine.

You mustn't assume such things--it is a mistake.  I always deal with
the easier issues immediately and postpone harder ones.

This one is going to require thought.  I wrote the changes in files.el
weeks ago, and I must have misremembered what they were supposed to do
when I wrote the changes in copy-file.  I'm going to have to figure
out what's really going on here.  I can't do that at any moment.

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@ 2005-05-03 10:44 John Knottenbelt
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From: John Knottenbelt @ 2005-05-03 10:44 UTC (permalink / raw)


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Here is a patch to get Emacs to compiler under Mac OS X 10.4:

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RCS file: /cvsroot/emacs/emacs/src/image.c,v
retrieving revision 1.22
diff -u -4 -r1.22 image.c
--- src/image.c	16 Apr 2005 03:07:05 -0000	1.22
+++ src/image.c	3 May 2005 08:15:40 -0000
@@ -90,8 +90,10 @@
 #endif
 #if TARGET_API_MAC_CARBON
 #ifdef MAC_OSX
 #include <QuickTime/QuickTime.h>
+#include <QuickTime/ImageCompression.h>
+#include <QuickTime/QuickTimeComponents.h>
 #else  /* not MAC_OSX */
 #include <QuickTime.h>
 #endif	/* not MAC_OSX */
 #else  /* not TARGET_API_MAC_CARBON */

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With today's CVS, I found that makefile-mode got unusable
when font-lock is on.

When I visit, for instance, emacs/Makefile.in, it is
displayed with font-lock correctly fairly soon.  But when I
hit C-v, I feel a delay in displaying the next page.  When I
hit more C-v's, the screen update gets slower and slower,
and, at last Emacs hangups.  Typing C-g doesn't work.  Gdb
shows that Emacs is executing re-search-forward.

(gdb) xba
"re-search-forward"
"byte-code"
"makefile-match-dependency"
"font-lock-fontify-keywords-region"
"font-lock-default-fontify-region"
"font-lock-fontify-region"
"run-hook-with-args"
"byte-code"
"jit-lock-fontify-now"
"jit-lock-function"

Isn't it because of this change?

2005-05-16  Daniel Pfeiffer  <occitan@esperanto.org>

	* font-lock.el (lisp-font-lock-keywords-1): Set
	`font-lock-negation-char-face' for [^...] char group.
	(lisp-font-lock-keywords-2): Highlight regexp's \\( \\| \\).

	* progmodes/make-mode.el (makefile-dependency-regex): Turn it into
	a var, and refine it to mask one more level of nested vars.
	(makefile-rule-action-regex): Turn it into a var, and refine it so
	it recognizes backslashed continuation lines as belonging to the
	same command.
	(makefile-macroassign-regex): Refine it so it recognizes
	backslashed continuation lines as belonging to the same command.
	(makefile-var-use-regex): Don't look at the next char, because it
	might be the same one to be skipped by the initial [^$], leading
	to an overlooked variable use.
	(makefile-make-font-lock-keywords): Remove two parameters, which
	are now variables that some of the modes set locally.  Handle
	dependency and rule action matching through functions, because
	regexps alone match too often.  Dependency matching now comes
	last, so it can check, whether a colon already matched something
	else.
	(makefile-mode): Inform that font-lock improves makefile parsing
	capabilities.
	(makefile-match-dependency, makefile-match-action): New functions.

---
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  Cc: Kim F. Storm

Is there a reason why this-original-command, unlike this-command,
returns a non-nil value when no command is running?  The reason why
this originally annoyed me is no longer valid, so I do not need this
to be "fixed", but I thought that maybe it might just be due to an
oversight.  What about the patch below?  Grepping shows that
this-original-command, is only used in ido and cua.  Basically, I
believe that only Kim has ever used it.  What about the mini-patch
below?  I can install if desired.

===File ~/keyboard.c-diff===================================
*** keyboard.c	26 May 2005 10:40:35 -0500	1.826
--- keyboard.c	30 May 2005 17:14:15 -0500	
***************
*** 1522,1527 ****
--- 1522,1528 ----
  
        Vthis_command = Qnil;
        real_this_command = Qnil;
+       Vthis_original_command=Qnil;
  
        /* Read next key sequence; i gets its length.  */
        i = read_key_sequence (keybuf, sizeof keybuf / sizeof keybuf[0],
============================================================

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On: 28 Jul 2005, Tim X <timx@spamto.devnul.com> wrote:

> However, as the only reason the OP wants this behavior is so
> that he can see the header line of the file at the same time as
> viewing row data which is more than one window in distance from
> the header line in his file, I'm thinking he is probably better
> off forgetting about follow-mode and seeing how hard it would
> be to create a mode which puts the first line into a header
> line (such as those used in *info* mode) and allows the rest of
> the buffer window to be used to scroll through the data file?

I have a dim recollection from a time long ago (6 or more years,
probably in emacs 18) of using emacs to do what the OP described.
Unfortunately I do not remember exactly how I did it.  If my
memory serves correctly it involved selecting a line and then
doing something simple that told emacs not to scroll the line off
the page.  It seems to me that it was something like setting a
margin variable.  I did some searching in info and did an apropos
on variables but could not find anything.  Perhaps some one on
the list can recall if there ever was such a capability.


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INCLUYE:
Coffee Break
Manual de Trabajo
Reconocimiento
La Exposición de un Especialista en la Materia
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Hotel Misión Juriquilla Querétaro.
http://www.misionjuriquilla.com/
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BASICO DE SEGURIDAD E HIGIENE. 

OBJETIVO: 
Establecer las medidas necesarias de prevención de los accidentes y enfermedades de trabajo, tendientes a lograr que la prestación del trabajo se desarrolle en condiciones de seguridad, higiene y medio ambiente adecuados para los trabajadores, conforme a lo dispuesto en la Ley Federal del Trabajo y los Tratados Internacionales celebrados y ratificados por los Estados Unidos Mexicanos. 

El curso desarrolla aquellos campos específicos que nacen al amparo del Reglamento Federal de Seguridad e Higiene y Medio Ambiente laboral. 

Este curso específico está diseñado para que los participantes resuelvan el máximo de problemas y casos, con el objetivo de mejorar el perfil de los participantes ante situaciones cotidianas de riesgos de trabajo. 

De esta forma se procura que desde el inicio los participantes se acostumbren a: 

- Recurrir al análisis global de los problemas. 

- Desarrollar la necesaria cooperación y búsqueda de información específica, para satisfacer de forma eficiente los retos que se le presentan en el devenir cotidiano de sus responsabilidades laborales. 

Dirigido a: 
Supervisores, Personal de Mantenimiento, Comisiones de Seguridad y Personal Directo. 


 Información y Temario CLIC AQUí

 
22 y 23 de SEPTIEMBRE DEL 2005
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Horario:
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15:00 a 17:30 
DURACION 16 HRS 2 DIAS

INCLUYE:
Coffee Break
Manual de Trabajo
Reconocimiento
La Exposición de un Especialista en la Materia
 SEDE:
 Hotel Misión Juriquilla Querétaro.
http://www.misionjuriquilla.com/
Al norte de la Ciudad de Querétaro y a sólo 120 minutos de la Ciudad de México se ubica el Hotel Misión Juriquilla, en una Ex Hacienda del siglo XVIII 

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Lennart Borgman wrote:
> I have added them to the web page now. Personally I am still in favour 
> of you first suggestion and my suggestion with M-x and the gnu head. One 
> of the reasons is that the screen normally contains so much horizontal 
> and vertical elements. Your second suggestion with the parenthesis 
> breaks this too and I like that one also.

Hi,

Attached you will find a new icon idea. I must confess that it is my
favorite icon for now ;-) It looks quite good scaled to 16x16.

Sincerely,
David

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@ 2005-09-08 21:25 Cahal Brittingham
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">
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<head>
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a:link			{font:8pt/11pt verdana; color:FF0000}
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@ 2005-09-12  0:34 Stalina
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@ 2005-09-25  9:42 Taneev
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@ 2005-10-06 21:07 Jonas Metz
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From: Jonas Metz @ 2005-10-06 21:07 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hello everybody,
when I search for a word with grep, I get the result in the following form:
emacs_tex.el:212:blablablablablabla
I would like to open the file with find-file an afterward to use the goto-line 
function to jump to that line. If something is under the curser I would like 
to use the function find-file-at-point instead.
Hope somebody knows an expansion for emacs or some lisp. 
Cheers Jonas

	

	
		
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@ 2005-10-28  8:46 MEJORES SEMINARIOS EN PUEBLA
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@ 2005-10-28  8:46 MEJORES SEMINARIOS EN PUEBLA
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24 y 25 de Noviembre

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24 y 25 de Noviembre

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1 y 2 de Diciembre

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1 y 2 de Diciembre

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1 y 2 de Diciembre

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1 y 2 de Diciembre

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@ 2005-10-28 12:20 Ahmadshah
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@ 2005-10-28 12:48 Neon Absentius
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From: Neon Absentius @ 2005-10-28 12:48 UTC (permalink / raw)


I know that similar questions have been raised on the past but I 
wasn't able to find all the information I need.

What is the "best" way to use emacs as a (La)TeX editor in windows
operating systems?  Besides auc-tex and preview-latex that are
indispensable, I would also like whizzytex to be available.
Preferably I would like a binary of emacs that is easy to install even
for people that have not much experience with windows (like me).
Also, which TeX distribution for windows do you think is best?

I am trying to promote the use of emacs as the LaTeX editor of choice
to a group of more or less "computer illiterate" people that treat
"windows" and "computers" more or less as synonyms.  So I want to be
able to set up an impressive presentation that will convince them for
the power of emacs, hopefully without scaring them too much.

Any help will greatly be appreciated.

-- 
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multiplication table; what is national is no longer science.
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@ 2006-01-24 11:59 Steve Pitchers
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From: Steve Pitchers @ 2006-01-24 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw)


With Emacs 21, the behaviour of vc-revert-buffer has changed, such that  
the original modification time of the revision from CVS is restored.  This  
is very clever, but "make" now does not know that the file has changed and  
the build process fails or creates an executable that does not represent  
the source shown in the Emacs buffer!

What can be done to correct this?  Emacs 20 did not have this problem.

Steve
    ~~~

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@ 2006-03-07 23:39 Amir Bukhari
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From: Amir Bukhari @ 2006-03-07 23:39 UTC (permalink / raw)


we in LG3D (Project Looking glass 3D) trying to build a 3d Desktop by using 
Composite Extension. we want to resolve all problem we encoured when using 
emacs with Lg3D.
I will describe the issue like following:
when opening emacs and click with mouse on a menu (For example File Menu), a
popup menu appear under File Menu. now 
we move the mouse pointer to other menu (in menubar) when mouse over one of 
them, a popup window appear but on the old possition (under File Menu also)
of the first opened 
menu.
it is not an issue in emacs, but rather in LG3D, because emacs works fine in

other window manager or without WM.
to fix this issue I need to know how emacs create menu, does it grab 
(pointer) during a popup menu is opened!
any help will be apreciated!

looking to the code of emacs will not help because I don't know how it is 
organized. 

-Amir

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@ 2006-05-25 10:43 Thomas Baumann
  2006-05-25 12:49 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Thomas Baumann @ 2006-05-25 10:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi Carsten,

I guess org-publish should either be integrated into org-el or committed
to emacs-cvs because otherwise the menu entries related to publishing
will fail.

Thomas 

following the lively development with great interest but with too little
time to test all new features :-)

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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2006-05-25 12:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: thomas.baumann; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

David has started the process of transferring his copyright to the FSF. 
  Once that is complete we will hopefully be able to quickly install 
this file in Emacs.

- Carsten

On May 25, 2006, at 12:43, Thomas Baumann wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> I guess org-publish should either be integrated into org-el or 
> committed
> to emacs-cvs because otherwise the menu entries related to publishing
> will fail.
>
> Thomas
>
> following the lively development with great interest but with too 
> little
> time to test all new features :-)
>
>
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@ 2006-06-02  3:14 Richard Stallman
  2006-06-13 20:32 ` Chong Yidong
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From: Richard Stallman @ 2006-06-02  3:14 UTC (permalink / raw)


Subject: [mjreed@essex.ac.uk: regexp problem in ldap.el?]
bcc: rms-outgoing@gnu.org
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Would someone please DTRT here, and ack?

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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 17:37:38 +0100
From: Martin J. Reed <mjreed@essex.ac.uk>
To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: regexp problem in ldap.el?
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HOT_NASTY autolearn=no 
	version=3.0.4

Hi,

I have had problems with ldap.el. It seems that the version shipped
(and latest CVS) matches erroneous lines in the grabbed output from
ldapsearch when SASL authentication is used. The problem may also
occur in other situations (I think it is a genuine bug). I have had to
apply the following diff (to ldap-1.11.2.10.el grabbed from CVS):

- --------------------------->8-------------------------------------
diff -u ldap-1.11.2.10.el ldap-1.11.2.10-reed.el 
- --- ldap-1.11.2.10.el   2006-06-01 17:05:40.000000000 +0100
+++ ldap-1.11.2.10-reed.el      2006-06-01 17:04:41.000000000 +0100
@@ -154,7 +154,7 @@
   :type '(string :tag "`ldapsearch' Program")
   :group 'ldap)
 
- -(defcustom ldap-ldapsearch-args '("-LL" "-tt" "-x")
+(defcustom ldap-ldapsearch-args '("-LL" "-tt")
   "*A list of additional arguments to pass to `ldapsearch'."
   :type '(repeat :tag "`ldapsearch' Arguments"
                 (string :tag "Argument"))
@@ -555,7 +555,7 @@
          (setq arglist (nconc arglist (list (format "-z%s" sizelimit)))))
       (eval `(call-process ldap-ldapsearch-prog
                           nil
- -                          `(,buf nil)
+                          buf
                           nil
                           ,@arglist
                           ,@ldap-ldapsearch-args
@@ -580,7 +580,7 @@
                                               (end-of-line)
                                               (point))))
          (forward-line 1)
- -         (while (looking-at "^\\(\\w*\\)\\(;\\w*\\)?[=:\t ]+\\(<[\t ]*file://\\)?\\(.*\\)$")
+         (while (looking-at "^\\(\\w*\\)\\(;\\w*\\)?[=:\t ]+\\(<[\t ]*file://\\)\\(.*\\)$")
            (setq name (match-string 1)
                  value (match-string 4))
             ;; Need to handle file:///D:/... as generated by OpenLDAP
- --------------------------->8-------------------------------------
The main problem I have is the last change in the diff. The "?" is
removed as with it there is a match on "one or none" instances of the
"file://". This seems to mean that it grabs any available line not
just those with a "file://" in it. Then the defun tries to load files
that match the erroneous lines (and fails).

The change of ldap-ldapsearch-args is probably not important (although
do we want users to use the insecure unencrypted form by default?),
also I do not understand why the change from `(,buf nil) to buf is
required (probably my elisp ignorance).

Example output of ldapsearch that causes a problem (OpenLdap 2.2.28)
with cleaned content. The error occurs on the second line where the
(looking-at regexp...) matches true and the defun tries to load a file
"/home/myhome/username: myusername". 
- -------------------------->8----------------------------------------
SASL/DIGEST-MD5 authentication started
SASL username: myusername
SASL SSF: 128
SASL installing layers
version: 1

dn: CN=xxxx,OU=xxxxxx,DC=xxxxx,DC=xx,DC=xx
objectClass:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-objectClass-8bcsA7
objectClass:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-objectClass-wlxT99
objectClass:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-objectClass-GPNlJc
objectClass:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-objectClass-G4DOif
cn:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-cn-u79hSh
sn:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-sn-YjeMrk
title:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-title-qHNg1m
givenName:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-givenName-8ATLAp
initials:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-initials-83xhas
distinguishedName:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-distinguishedName-uiXNJu
- -------------------------->8---------------------------------------

Also there is a problem with ldapsearch from latest OpenLDAP in that
it can wrap long lines. Not sure if there is a possible fix in emacs
but maybe a warning could be added (I use a wrapper script to get rid
of the "bad line wraps").

Otherwise thanks for the updates it works much better than ldap.el
shipped with 21.4.

Regards,
 
Martin
- --
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  2006-06-02  3:14 Richard Stallman
@ 2006-06-13 20:32 ` Chong Yidong
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From: Chong Yidong @ 2006-06-13 20:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel, Martin J. Reed

> I have had problems with ldap.el. It seems that the version shipped
> (and latest CVS) matches erroneous lines in the grabbed output from
> ldapsearch when SASL authentication is used. The problem may also
> occur in other situations (I think it is a genuine bug). I have had to
> apply the following diff (to ldap-1.11.2.10.el grabbed from CVS):

Your patch looks OK, so I've installed it.

> - --------------------------->8-------------------------------------
> diff -u ldap-1.11.2.10.el ldap-1.11.2.10-reed.el 
> - --- ldap-1.11.2.10.el   2006-06-01 17:05:40.000000000 +0100
> +++ ldap-1.11.2.10-reed.el      2006-06-01 17:04:41.000000000 +0100
> @@ -154,7 +154,7 @@
>    :type '(string :tag "`ldapsearch' Program")
>    :group 'ldap)
>  
> - -(defcustom ldap-ldapsearch-args '("-LL" "-tt" "-x")
> +(defcustom ldap-ldapsearch-args '("-LL" "-tt")
>    "*A list of additional arguments to pass to `ldapsearch'."
>    :type '(repeat :tag "`ldapsearch' Arguments"
>                  (string :tag "Argument"))
> @@ -555,7 +555,7 @@
>           (setq arglist (nconc arglist (list (format "-z%s" sizelimit)))))
>        (eval `(call-process ldap-ldapsearch-prog
>                            nil
> - -                          `(,buf nil)
> +                          buf
>                            nil
>                            ,@arglist
>                            ,@ldap-ldapsearch-args
> @@ -580,7 +580,7 @@
>                                                (end-of-line)
>                                                (point))))
>           (forward-line 1)
> - -         (while (looking-at "^\\(\\w*\\)\\(;\\w*\\)?[=:\t ]+\\(<[\t ]*file://\\)?\\(.*\\)$")
> +         (while (looking-at "^\\(\\w*\\)\\(;\\w*\\)?[=:\t ]+\\(<[\t ]*file://\\)\\(.*\\)$")
>             (setq name (match-string 1)
>                   value (match-string 4))
>              ;; Need to handle file:///D:/... as generated by OpenLDAP
> - --------------------------->8-------------------------------------
> The main problem I have is the last change in the diff. The "?" is
> removed as with it there is a match on "one or none" instances of the
> "file://". This seems to mean that it grabs any available line not
> just those with a "file://" in it. Then the defun tries to load files
> that match the erroneous lines (and fails).
>
> The change of ldap-ldapsearch-args is probably not important (although
> do we want users to use the insecure unencrypted form by default?),
> also I do not understand why the change from `(,buf nil) to buf is
> required (probably my elisp ignorance).
>
> Example output of ldapsearch that causes a problem (OpenLdap 2.2.28)
> with cleaned content. The error occurs on the second line where the
> (looking-at regexp...) matches true and the defun tries to load a file
> "/home/myhome/username: myusername". 
> - -------------------------->8----------------------------------------
> SASL/DIGEST-MD5 authentication started
> SASL username: myusername
> SASL SSF: 128
> SASL installing layers
> version: 1
>
> dn: CN=xxxx,OU=xxxxxx,DC=xxxxx,DC=xx,DC=xx
> objectClass:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-objectClass-8bcsA7
> objectClass:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-objectClass-wlxT99
> objectClass:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-objectClass-GPNlJc
> objectClass:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-objectClass-G4DOif
> cn:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-cn-u79hSh
> sn:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-sn-YjeMrk
> title:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-title-qHNg1m
> givenName:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-givenName-8ATLAp
> initials:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-initials-83xhas
> distinguishedName:< file:///tmp/ldapsearch-distinguishedName-uiXNJu
> - -------------------------->8---------------------------------------
>
> Also there is a problem with ldapsearch from latest OpenLDAP in that
> it can wrap long lines. Not sure if there is a possible fix in emacs
> but maybe a warning could be added (I use a wrapper script to get rid
> of the "bad line wraps").
>
> Otherwise thanks for the updates it works much better than ldap.el
> shipped with 21.4.
>
> Regards,
>  
> Martin
> - --
> Dr. M.J. Reed                               Room:          1NW.5.3G
> Dept. Electronic Systems Engineering         Tel:+44 (0)1206 872479
> University of Essex, Colchester CO4 3SQ, UK  FAX:+44 (0)1206 872900
> Email mjreed (non Essex users should add @essex.ac.uk)
> Web: http://esewww.essex.ac.uk/~mjreed
>
>
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@ 2006-06-26 12:54 amcorreia
  2006-06-27 16:14 ` Richard Stallman
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From: amcorreia @ 2006-06-26 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw)


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Hi,

I'm using Emacs version.
GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) of 2006-06-26 on fw1b

my Emacs don't fontify correct the comment in buffer (in any mode).
this in text mode, in graphic mode this fontify correct.

i.e
if i have:

"/* this is a comment */
int x;"

fontify just "/*" and "*/".

this is a bug?

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* Re: (no subject)
  2006-06-26 12:54 amcorreia
@ 2006-06-27 16:14 ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2006-06-27 16:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emacs-devel

This is not a bug, it is the intended function on a tty.  You can
customize it by changing the definition of the face used for comments.

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* (no subject)
@ 2006-07-25 17:33 amcorreia
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: amcorreia @ 2006-07-25 17:33 UTC (permalink / raw)


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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:33:29 -0300
From: Alessandro Madruga Correia <amcorreia@viaconnect.com.br>
To: ML Emacs Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Possible bug in C-mode
Message-ID: <20060725173328.GA23717@viaconnect.com.br>
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Hi folks.

amcorreia@fileserver:~$  emacs -Q

I'm using:

M-x version
GNU Emacs 22.0.50.4 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit) of 2006-05-09 on fileserver

with
M-x c-version
Using CC Mode version 5.31.3

in X.
if I have a comment wich this.

/* 
 * comment
 */

fontify correct.

/**
 * comment
 */

don't fontify correct

and
/***
 * comment
 */
 
correct again.

maybe a trouble with regexp?


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* (no subject)
@ 2006-09-02 18:08 Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2006-09-02 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: juri, emacs-devel, storm

In-reply-to: <2cd46e7f0609010846o7b393dd5xef60a645125d08@mail.gmail.com>
	(ken.manheimer@gmail.com)
Subject: Re: cursor doesn't show through transparent images in emacs 22, unlike emacs 21
bcc: rms-outgoing@gnu.org
Reply-to: rms@gnu.org
References: <2cd46e7f0608181622w23c7d2b0h9b963deeadfd1c06@mail.gmail.com>
	 <E1GHpIm-00027E-7t@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wt8sbhux.fsf@jurta.org>
	 <m3zmdoa2h7.fsf@kfs-l.imdomain.dk>
	 <2cd46e7f0608291431k1d26dac9l1f41c271da28495e@mail.gmail.com>
	 <85y7t7mdha.fsf@lola.goethe.zz>
	 <2cd46e7f0608291512ne9a865av7fb7bb537658887a@mail.gmail.com>
	 <E1GIUKm-0000Gd-Tx@fencepost.gnu.org>
	 <2cd46e7f0608301120q190d710bya04f85359e79e29@mail.gmail.com>
	 <E1GIr5F-0000KL-6z@fencepost.gnu.org> <2cd46e7f0609010846o7b393dd5xef60a645125d08@mail.gmail.com>
--text follows this line--
    > What happens when you do not specify any :mask attribute?
    > Is that the case where the cursor fails to show?

    yes.

    > If I understand right, then this is a bug, as I previously said.

    i think i agree.  the only question i have concerns the resonsibility
    and disrcetion of the application developer.

I think we have a responsibility to make sure that the default way of
displaying an image does work properly with the cursor.  To have some
peculiar option which means the cursor does not display properly might
be excusable, but it's not excusable for the default to display wrong.

I suggested:

    That would be bad,  since it would change the geometry.
    What I think he proposed is to show the cursor over the outer parts
    of the image.  That seems good for this case.

Is anyone working on this?

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* (no subject)
@ 2006-12-21  6:55 Werner LEMBERG
  2006-12-21 18:43 ` Kevin Rodgers
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Werner LEMBERG @ 2006-12-21  6:55 UTC (permalink / raw)



[CVS 2006-10-28]

I've just seen the following link in an email:

  http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=en&q=+pango_layout_(iter_)%3Fget_(lines%3F%7Crun)%5B%5E_%5D&start=50&sa=N

As you can probably can see immediately, thingatpt only colorizes (and
uses) the string up to `..._layout_', stopping at the opening
parenthesis.

Is this intentional or is this a bug?


    Werner

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* Re: (no subject)
  2006-12-21  6:55 Werner LEMBERG
@ 2006-12-21 18:43 ` Kevin Rodgers
  2006-12-28 14:17   ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2006-12-21 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)


Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> [CVS 2006-10-28]
> 
> I've just seen the following link in an email:
> 
>   http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=en&q=+pango_layout_(iter_)%3Fget_(lines%3F%7Crun)%5B%5E_%5D&start=50&sa=N
> 
> As you can probably can see immediately, thingatpt only colorizes (and
> uses) the string up to `..._layout_', stopping at the opening
> parenthesis.
> 
> Is this intentional or is this a bug?

It is intentional, as parentheses are explicitly excluded from URLs by
thing-at-point-url-path-regexp.  It could be a bug, as parentheses are
defined as reserved characters in URIs, which are only sometimes percent-
encoded, depending on the context; but I think they are allowed within
both the path and query components of generic URIs (without being
percent-encoded).

So just as the slashes in the URI above should not need to be %-encoded
(since they follow the ?, they are clearly within the query component),
neither should the parentheses need to be %-encoded -- but perhaps they
ought to be.

-- 
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA

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* Re: (no subject)
  2006-12-21 18:43 ` Kevin Rodgers
@ 2006-12-28 14:17   ` Slawomir Nowaczyk
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Slawomir Nowaczyk @ 2006-12-28 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:43:55 -0700
Kevin Rodgers <kevin.d.rodgers@gmail.com> wrote:

#> Werner LEMBERG wrote:
#> > [CVS 2006-10-28]
#> > 
#> > I've just seen the following link in an email:
#> > 
#> >   http://www.google.com/codesearch?hl=en&q=+pango_layout_(iter_)%3Fget_(lines%3F%7Crun)%5B%5E_%5D&start=50&sa=N
#> > 
#> > As you can probably can see immediately, thingatpt only colorizes (and
#> > uses) the string up to `..._layout_', stopping at the opening
#> > parenthesis.
#> > 
#> > Is this intentional or is this a bug?
#> 
#> It is intentional, as parentheses are explicitly excluded from URLs by
#> thing-at-point-url-path-regexp.  It could be a bug, as parentheses are
#> defined as reserved characters in URIs, which are only sometimes percent-
#> encoded, depending on the context; but I think they are allowed within
#> both the path and query components of generic URIs (without being
#> percent-encoded).
#> 
#> So just as the slashes in the URI above should not need to be %-encoded
#> (since they follow the ?, they are clearly within the query component),
#> neither should the parentheses need to be %-encoded -- but perhaps they
#> ought to be.

FWIW, I have found this behaviour to be pretty annoying: URLs like this
one are becoming rather common nowadays (at least in my experience) and
the fact that find-file-at-point does not handle them feels like a bug.

-- 
 Best wishes,
   Slawomir Nowaczyk
     ( slawomir.nowaczyk.847@student.lu.se )

All I want is a warm bed, and a kind word, and unlimited power.

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* (no subject)
@ 2007-01-29 22:19 William Hanlon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: William Hanlon @ 2007-01-29 22:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bug-gnu-emacs, whanlon

From: William Hanlon <whanlon@loki.cosmic.utah.edu>
To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
cc: whanlon
Subject: mail headers shifted to body of message

This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation,
not to your local site managers!
Please write in English, because the Emacs maintainers do not have
translators to read other languages for them.

Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list,
and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group.

In GNU Emacs 21.4.1 (i686-redhat-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
 of 2006-08-03 on ls20-bc2-14.build.redhat.com
configured using `configure  --build=i686-redhat-linux-gnu --host=i686-redhat-linux-gnu --target=i386-redhat-linux-gnu --program-prefix= --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=/etc --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --libdir=/usr/lib --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var --sharedstatedir=/usr/com --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-pop --with-sound'
Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: C
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_US
  locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:

When sending mail composed in emacs the subject:, cc:, and to: fields
are shifted into the body of the message. The mail is then sent with no
subject and the intended cc: and to: lines all put into the header to:
field. Here's an example of a test message I sent to myself:

Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:06:55 -0700
From: William Hanlon <whanlon@cosmic.utah.edu>
To: pseudovector@yahoo.com, whanlon@physics.rutgers.edu,
   whanlon@physics.utah.edu

From: William Hanlon <whanlon@loki.cosmic.utah.edu>
To: whanlon@physics.utah.edu
cc: whanlon@physics.rutgers.edu, pseudovector@yahoo.com
Subject: test


smuggle advisors Albania jihad AUTODIN Centro mindwar asset Craig
Livingstone MD2 DES CESID White House Leitrim Qaddafi



The second set of "to:, cc:, subject:" is how I originally composed
the message.

I'm using sendmail 8.13.8 packaged with fedora core 6. If I use the
"mail" command to compose and send a message those messages are sent
correctly.


Recent input:
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> l <down> <left> <left> 
<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <return> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <escape> x r e p o <tab> r t <tab> <
return>

Recent messages:
Wrote /home/whanlon/personal/RMAIL
Expunging deleted messages...done
(No changes need to be saved)
unzipping efaq.gz...done
unzipping efaq-2.gz...done
call-interactively: End of buffer
unzipping emacs.gz...done
unzipping emacs-27.gz...done
call-interactively: Buffer is read-only: #<buffer *info*> [4 times]
Making completion list...

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* (no subject)
@ 2007-02-21 22:31 A Soare
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: A Soare @ 2007-02-21 22:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs   Dev  [emacs-devel]; +Cc: Richard   Stallman  [rms]

Here is the indentation rewriten, and taking into consideration all problems we have just talked about.

If there are some other new problems, please report.


Alin  Soare


Index: emacs/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp-mode.el
===================================================================
RCS file: /sources/emacs/emacs/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp-mode.el,v
retrieving revision 1.199
diff -c -r1.199 lisp-mode.el
*** emacs/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp-mode.el	17 Feb 2007 11:34:22 -0000	1.199
--- emacs/lisp/emacs-lisp/lisp-mode.el	21 Feb 2007 22:26:09 -0000
***************
*** 908,942 ****
        (let ((normal-indent (current-column)))
          (cond ((elt state 3)
                 ;; Inside a string, don't change indentation.
! 	       nil)
!               ((save-excursion
!                  ;; test whether current line begins with a constant
!                  (goto-char indent-point)
!                  (skip-chars-forward " \t")
!                  (looking-at ":"))
!                (let ((desired-indent
!                       (save-excursion
!                         (goto-char (1+ containing-sexp))
!                         (parse-partial-sexp (point) calculate-lisp-indent-last-sexp 0 t)
!                         (point)))
!                      (parse-sexp-ignore-comments t))
!                  ;; Align a constant symbol under the last constant symbol
!                  (goto-char calculate-lisp-indent-last-sexp)
!                  (while (> (point) desired-indent)
!                    (if (looking-at ":")
!                        (setq desired-indent (point))
!                      (backward-sexp 1))))
!                  (current-column))
                ((and (integerp lisp-indent-offset) containing-sexp)
                 ;; Indent by constant offset
                 (goto-char containing-sexp)
                 (+ (current-column) lisp-indent-offset))
                (desired-indent)
-               ((and (boundp 'lisp-indent-function)
-                     lisp-indent-function
-                     (not retry))
-                (or (funcall lisp-indent-function indent-point state)
-                    normal-indent))
                (t
                 normal-indent))))))
  
--- 908,955 ----
        (let ((normal-indent (current-column)))
          (cond ((elt state 3)
                 ;; Inside a string, don't change indentation.
!                nil)
                ((and (integerp lisp-indent-offset) containing-sexp)
                 ;; Indent by constant offset
                 (goto-char containing-sexp)
                 (+ (current-column) lisp-indent-offset))
+               ((save-excursion
+                  ;; the car must be defined on the same line as the inner parenthesis.
+                  ;; in this case calculate-lisp-indent-last-sexp is not nil.
+                  (and containing-sexp
+                       (goto-char (1+ containing-sexp))
+                       (skip-chars-forward " \t")
+                       (looking-at "\\sw\\|\\s_")))
+                (or
+                 ;; try to align the parameters of a known function
+                 (and (boundp 'lisp-indent-function)
+                      lisp-indent-function
+                      (not retry)
+                      (funcall lisp-indent-function indent-point state))
+                 ;; if not a standard function, try to align a constant-symbol
+                 ;; under the last preceding constant symbol, if there is such one
+                 ;; of the last 2 preceding symbols, in the previous uncommented
+                 ;; line
+                 (and (save-excursion
+                        (goto-char indent-point)
+                        (skip-chars-forward " \t")
+                        (looking-at ":"))
+                      (let ((parse-sexp-ignore-comments t)
+                            indent)
+                        (goto-char calculate-lisp-indent-last-sexp)
+                        (if (looking-at ":")
+                            (setq indent (current-column))
+                          (when (and (> calculate-lisp-indent-last-sexp containing-sexp)
+                                     (< (save-excursion (beginning-of-line) (point))
+                                        (prog2 (backward-sexp) (point))))
+                            (if (looking-at ":")
+                                (setq indent (current-column)))))
+                        indent))
+                 ;; another symbols or constants not preceded by a constant
+                 ;; as defined above.
+                 normal-indent))
+               ;; in this case calculate-lisp-indent-last-sexp is nil
                (desired-indent)
                (t
                 normal-indent))))))

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* (no subject)
@ 2007-03-12  8:51 A Soare
  2007-03-13  4:12 ` Kevin Rodgers
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: A Soare @ 2007-03-12  8:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs   Help  [help-gnu-emacs]

How can I quit emacs without being asked whether I want to stop processes?

Thanks.

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* Re: (no subject)
  2007-03-12  8:51 A Soare
@ 2007-03-13  4:12 ` Kevin Rodgers
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2007-03-13  4:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

A Soare wrote:
> How can I quit emacs without being asked whether I want to stop processes?

Set each process' query flag to nil, either as soon as it's created or
right before you quit emacs.


-- 
Kevin Rodgers
Denver, Colorado, USA

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* (no subject)
@ 2007-03-21 11:04 A Soare
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: A Soare @ 2007-03-21 11:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs   Dev  [emacs-devel]

Why it is not chosen another system to change the font using the mouse?


In this moment (default) to change the font I press SHIFT+[left mouse button] , then choose a font.

In general I receive the message << mouse-set-font: Font not found [2 times] >>. That is because there is no rule to select the fonts from the default list.

Why it is not assigned to SHIFT + LEFT-MOUSE-BUTTON a menu to choose:
- font color
- background color
- a list of fonts (and to dresse this list detecting at least whether the fonts are instlled in the system).

What do you say about this proposal. If the assoc list (buffer-name, color) cannot be implemented, maybe this solution would work better?

Alin Soare.

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* (no subject)
@ 2007-04-18 20:21 A Soare
  2007-04-19 16:03 ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: A Soare @ 2007-04-18 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs   Help  [help-gnu-emacs]; +Cc: Emacs   Dev  [emacs-devel]

Can somebody recommend me a place (usenet/etcetera) where one speaks about problems of parsers/grammars? I found nothing to like so far.

Thanks in advance.

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* Re: (no subject)
  2007-04-18 20:21 A Soare
@ 2007-04-19 16:03 ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2007-04-19 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: alinsoar; +Cc: Emacs Help [help-gnu-emacs], Emacs Dev [emacs-devel]

> Can somebody recommend me a place (usenet/etcetera) where one speaks about
> problems of parsers/grammars? I found nothing to like so far.

I have no idea what this has to do with Emacs, but comp.compilers seems like
the best place for it,


        Stefan

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* (no subject)
@ 2007-10-20 10:33 Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
  2007-10-21 22:20 ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Brubeck Unhammer @ 2007-10-20 10:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:

>    - The agenda dispatcher
>      + `<' cycles through restriction states.

Is there still a reason for the agenda timeline ("L") having to be
restricted to the current buffer?

--
Kevin Brubeck Unhammer

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* (no subject)
@ 2007-10-21  2:41 Guangyi Wang
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Guangyi Wang @ 2007-10-21  2:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bug-gnu-emacs

This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation,
not to your local site managers!
Please write in English, because the Emacs maintainers do not have
translators to read other languages for them.

Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list,
and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group.

In GNU Emacs 21.4.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8, X toolkit)
 of 2005-07-28 on corwgl
configured using `configure  --prefix=/encs/pkg/emacs-21.4/root --with-xpm --with-jpeg --with-png'
Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: en_CA.ISO8859-1
  value of $LC_CTYPE: en_CA.ISO8859-1
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: C
  value of $LC_MONETARY: en_CA.ISO8859-1
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_CA.ISO8859-1
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: nil
  locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug
and the precise symptoms of the bug:





Recent input:
ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC 
[ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A 
ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC 
[ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A 
ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ A ESC [ 2 1 ~ 
h s

Recent messages:
Loading disp-table...done
Loading regexp-opt...done
For information about the GNU Project and its goals, type C-h C-p.
Loading cc-mode...
Loading image...done
Loading cc-mode...done
Wrote /home/g/g_wang/ftp/js_1_1.m [3 times]
Loading tmm...done
Loading view...done
Loading emacsbug...done




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* Re: (no subject)
  2007-10-20 10:33 Kevin Brubeck Unhammer
@ 2007-10-21 22:20 ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2007-10-21 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

"Kevin Brubeck Unhammer" <unhammer@gmail.com> writes:

> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> writes:
>
>>    - The agenda dispatcher
>>      + `<' cycles through restriction states.
>
> Is there still a reason for the agenda timeline ("L") having to be
> restricted to the current buffer?

Please check these threads:

  http://search.gmane.org/?query=timeline+all+agenda-files&group=gmane.emacs.orgmode
 
From the manual:

  The timeline summarizes all time-stamped items from a single Org-mode
  file in a _time-sorted view_.  The main purpose of this command is to
  give an overview over events in a project.

You can still create your own agenda view displaying the agenda for any
number of days by using `org-agenda-ndays':

     (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
           '(("n" agenda ""
              ((org-agenda-ndays 100)))))

But this can take longer than displaying the timeline for just one file.

HTH,

-- 
Bastien

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@ 2007-11-13 20:35 François Puitg
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: François Puitg @ 2007-11-13 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode; +Cc: tim.ocallaghan, Dr.Volker.Zell

Subject: Re: [Orgmode] undo in org.el
In-Reply-To: <200711131703.lADH3ive000962@imag.imag.fr>
References: <200711131703.lADH3ive000962@imag.imag.fr>
X-Mailer: VM 7.19 under 21.4 (patch 20) "Double Solitaire" XEmacs Lucid--text follows this line--
FCC: ~/Mail/messages_envoyés

  > Well, the fact that it is in Emacs CVS has not kept me from  
  > supporting XEmacs for quite a while now.  But it is extra work and  
  > requires catering for missing features and different implementations  
  > - so it is important for me to know that this is used and still  
  > appreciated.
  > 
  > How about someone stepping forward and trying to release an XEmacs  
  > package containing noutline.el and org-mode?  Anyone who feels up to  
  > this?  Because I will not have the time.
  > 
  > - Carsten

I'm another  (happy) user of XEmacs,  and a (not  less  happy) user of
org-mode.

I don't  think I could  maintain  an XEmacs package  for org-mode (not
only a question of time, but also capability), but I'm willing to help
by testing org-mode under XEmacs and tracking down bugs.

-- Frnçs

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@ 2008-01-28 11:20 Dimitris Kapetanakis
  2008-01-29  9:39 ` Bastien Guerry
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Dimitris Kapetanakis @ 2008-01-28 11:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode


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This is really a question for Bastien
I tried to use blorg.el but I can't load it

it says

Compiling file g:/Emacs/site-lisp/blorg.el at Mon Jan 28 13:17:20 2008
blorg.el:133:1:Warning: value returned from (fboundp (quote
    replace-regexp-in-string)) is unused
blorg.el:1405:1:Error: Invalid read syntax: "?"

can you help me?

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* Re: (no subject)
  2008-01-28 11:20 Dimitris Kapetanakis
@ 2008-01-29  9:39 ` Bastien Guerry
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien Guerry @ 2008-01-29  9:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Dimitris Kapetanakis; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Dimitri,

"Dimitris Kapetanakis" <katepano@gmail.com> writes:

> This is really a question for Bastien
> I tried to use blorg.el but I can't load it
>
> it says
>
> Compiling file g:/Emacs/site-lisp/blorg.el at Mon Jan 28 13:17:20 2008
> blorg.el:133:1:Warning: value returned from (fboundp (quote
>     replace-regexp-in-string)) is unused
> blorg.el:1405:1:Error: Invalid read syntax: "?"
>
> can you help me?

I've uploaded a small fix for this.  Please check blorg.el 0.75b:

  http://www.cogintion.ens.fr/~guerry/u/blorg.el

HTH,

-- 
Bastien

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* (no subject)
@ 2008-02-07  6:51 jpff
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: jpff @ 2008-02-07  6:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jpff, bug-gnu-emacs

Date: Thu,  7 Feb 2008 06:51:41 +0000
Message-Id: <9424-Thu07Feb2008065141+0000-jpff@cardew.codemist.co.uk>
X-Mailer: emacs 22.1.1 (via feedmail 8 I)
BCC: jpff@cardew.codemist.co.uk
From: jpff <jpff@cardew.codemist.co.uk>
To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: more on RMAIL failure

Note this refers to 23.0.60 remade 30 mins ago from CVS
I did a find-file-literally to load ~/RMAIL and then loaded
lisp/mail/rmail.el and instrumented a number of functions.  The
function rmail-convert-file checks that it is already Babyl format and
then calls rmail-decode-babyl-format
That calls (detect-coding-region from to 'highest)
and at this point emacs goes quiet; no rotating cursor, no response to
^G and I killed the window.

(gdb) run -q
Starting program: /usr/local/bin/emacs -q
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
[New Thread 0xb6e338d0 (LWP 15517)]

Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted.
[Switching to Thread 0xb6e338d0 (LWP 15517)]
0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
(gdb) where
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb74aec26 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x08114c2b in abort () at emacs.c:432
#3  0x0817e737 in internal_condition_case (bfun=0x8125ba0 <command_loop_1>, 
    handlers=137778601, hfun=0x8120c80 <cmd_error>) at eval.c:1469
#4  0x08120103 in command_loop_2 () at keyboard.c:1370
#5  0x0817e7da in internal_catch (tag=137773449, 
    func=0x81200e0 <command_loop_2>, arg=137734345) at eval.c:1230
#6  0x08120ae7 in command_loop () at keyboard.c:1349
#7  0x08120e4b in recursive_edit_1 () at keyboard.c:958
#8  0x08120f81 in Frecursive_edit () at keyboard.c:1020
#9  0x081159ec in main (argc=2, argv=0xbfcc9684) at emacs.c:1793
(gdb) bt full
#0  0xffffe410 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
No symbol table info available.
#1  0xb74aec26 in kill () from /lib/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x08114c2b in abort () at emacs.c:432
No locals.
#3  0x0817e737 in internal_condition_case (bfun=0x8125ba0 <command_loop_1>, 
    handlers=137778601, hfun=0x8120c80 <cmd_error>) at eval.c:1469
        val = <value optimized out>
        c = {tag = 137734345, val = 150122093, next = 0xbfcc91b0, gcpro = 0x0, 
  jmp = {{__jmpbuf = {0, 138250448, 138250432, -1077112456, -921629869, 
        2147330108}, __mask_was_saved = 0, __saved_mask = {__val = {1, 
          3076683656, 3086401524, 3068516560, 3217854416, 3217854468, 
          3086329903, 3217854776, 3217854832, 3086403184, 134542865, 
          2822930839, 0, 0, 2, 3086349321, 134542206, 3217854768, 3217855056, 
          4294967295, 3217854904, 135454915, 3217855056, 3217854768, 128, 
          3075000960, 3076683712, 0, 110932256, 3086401524, 3086403184, 
          134523140}}}}, backlist = 0x0, handlerlist = 0x0, 
  lisp_eval_depth = 0, pdlcount = 2, poll_suppress_count = 1, 
  interrupt_input_blocked = 0, byte_stack = 0x0}
        h = {handler = 137778601, var = 137734345, chosen_clause = 137734393, 
  tag = 0xbfcc909c, next = 0x0}
#4  0x08120103 in command_loop_2 () at keyboard.c:1370
        val = 0
#5  0x0817e7da in internal_catch (tag=137773449, 
    func=0x81200e0 <command_loop_2>, arg=137734345) at eval.c:1230
        c = {tag = 137773449, val = 137734345, next = 0x0, gcpro = 0x0, jmp = {
    {__jmpbuf = {0, 138250448, 138250432, -1077112200, -921474221, 
        2147463228}, __mask_was_saved = 0, __saved_mask = {__val = {0, 
          147023480, 192, 3076215152, 0, 176, 22, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 
          3079988273, 137866084, 137866080, 3076215152, 137960570, 137960568, 
          137964000, 3217855080, 135725877, 137964001, 137960570, 137734345, 
          137760192, 3068344528, 137909072, 137734369}}}}, backlist = 0x0, 
  handlerlist = 0x0, lisp_eval_depth = 0, pdlcount = 2, 
  poll_suppress_count = 1, interrupt_input_blocked = 0, byte_stack = 0x0}
#6  0x08120ae7 in command_loop () at keyboard.c:1349
No locals.
#7  0x08120e4b in recursive_edit_1 () at keyboard.c:958
        val = <value optimized out>
#8  0x08120f81 in Frecursive_edit () at keyboard.c:1020
        buffer = 137734345
#9  0x081159ec in main (argc=2, argv=0xbfcc9684) at emacs.c:1793
        displayname = 0x0
        count_before = <value optimized out>
        dummy = -1077111304
        stack_bottom_variable = 8 '\b'
        do_initial_setlocale = 1
        skip_args = 0
        rlim = {rlim_cur = 8388608, rlim_max = 18446744073709551615}
        no_loadup = 0
        junk = 0x0
(gdb) xbacktrace
Undefined command: "xbacktrace".  Try "help".
(gdb) 

The suggestion is that there is a malformat in my RMAIL file, but it
works perfectly in emacs22 (the system I am using here)

By the way, the error I have repeated many times that when picking up
new mail from two filing systems causes a format error is still
present.  Happened to me yesterday.  Will try to create a simple
scheme to illustrate


In GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i586-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0)
 of 2007-11-23 on dede
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70200000
configured using `configure  '--with-gcc' '--with-pop' '--without-hesiod' '--with-kerberos' '--with-kerberos5' '--with-leim' '--with-xim' '--with-system-malloc' '--prefix=/usr' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--localstatedir=/var' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--with-x' '--with-sound' '--with-xpm' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff' '--with-gif' '--with-png' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--x-includes=/usr/include' '--x-libraries=/usr/lib:/usr/share/X11' '--build=i586-suse-linux-gnu' 'build_alias=i586-suse-linux-gnu' 'CC=gcc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i586 -mtune=i686 -fmessage-length=0 -Wall -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fstack-protector -g -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing 	 -D_GNU_SOURCE 	 -Wno-pointer-sign 	 -Wno-unused-variable 	 -Wno-unused-label  -DSYSTEM_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5500
 0 	 -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=10000 ' 'LDFLAGS=''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Fundamental

Minor modes in effect:
  display-time-mode: t
  encoded-kbd-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
<help-echo> <help-echo> <menu-bar> <file> <open-file> 
<help-echo> <help-echo> M-x r e p o r t <tab> <ret
urn>

Recent messages:

error: `mail-filter.el' was compiled for Emacs 23 or later

To ensure normal operation, you should investigate and remove the
cause of the error in your initialization file.  Start Emacs with
the `--debug-init' option to view a complete error backtrace.

Loading eldoc...done
Quit
Loading emacsbug...done

==John ffitch




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* (no subject)
@ 2008-02-07 10:01 jpff
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: jpff @ 2008-02-07 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jpff, bug-gnu-emacs

Date: Thu,  7 Feb 2008 10:01:38 +0000
Message-Id: <3895-Thu07Feb2008100138+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk>
X-Mailer: emacs 22.1.1 (via feedmail 8 I)
BCC: jpff@codemist.co.uk
From: jpff <jpff@codemist.co.uk>
To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: More on RMAIL problem

I am running rmail-mode under gdb. So far it has been running for 45
minutes at over 90% CPU.  It seems to be in coding.c running the
function detect_coding_system.  This seems to be going through the
mail file character at a time, but not very fast!
src is currently 0xb48fe1f6
and src_end is 0xb4d89219
But sometime src seems to return to an earlier value when returning
from detect_coding_iso_2022 (just now 0xb01e9c41)

Have not understood the code but it looks like at least n^2 and my
mail file is 97Mb

Please, do I have to give up on emacs after 20 years?

PS o=in src/coding.c line 2535 there is a typo codig->coding


In GNU Emacs 22.1.1 (i586-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0)
 of 2007-11-23 on dede
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70200000
configured using `configure  '--with-gcc' '--with-pop' '--without-hesiod' '--with-kerberos' '--with-kerberos5' '--with-leim' '--with-xim' '--with-system-malloc' '--prefix=/usr' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--localstatedir=/var' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--with-x' '--with-sound' '--with-xpm' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff' '--with-gif' '--with-png' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' '--x-includes=/usr/include' '--x-libraries=/usr/lib:/usr/share/X11' '--build=i586-suse-linux-gnu' 'build_alias=i586-suse-linux-gnu' 'CC=gcc' 'CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i586 -mtune=i686 -fmessage-length=0 -Wall -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fstack-protector -g -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing 	 -D_GNU_SOURCE 	 -Wno-pointer-sign 	 -Wno-unused-variable 	 -Wno-unused-label  -DSYSTEM_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5500
 0 	 -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=10000 ' 'LDFLAGS=''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: C/l

Minor modes in effect:
  auto-image-file-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  encoded-kbd-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  abbrev-mode: t

Recent input:
* . c <return> <help-echo> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> C-v <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> C-v C-v <help-echo> 
<down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement> <mouse-1> C-x C-f <backspace> 
<backspace> <backspace> <backspace> l s <tab> <backspace> 
i s p / m a i <tab> r m a i <tab> . e <tab> <return> 
C-s b a b y l C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-a C-v C-v C-v <down-mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> C-s C-w C-w C-w C-w C-s C-a <down-mouse-1> 
<mouse-movement> <mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> 
C-v <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> 
<down> <down> <down> <up> <up> <left> <left> <left> 
<left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <left> <down-mouse-1> 
<mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> <drag-mouse-1> C-x 
b <return> M-x g r e p <return> <help-echo> <down-mouse-2> 
<mouse-2> SPC * . c <return> <help-echo> <help-echo> 
<down-mouse-1> <mouse-2> <help-echo> <down-mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> C-s C-w C-w C-w C-s C-s C-s C-s C-a <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> C-x 1 <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> <mouse-1> C-x 
C-x <down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> 
<drag-mouse-1> M-v M-v M-v M-v M-v M-v M-v M-v <down-mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> <double-down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> 
<double-drag-mouse-1> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement> 
<mouse-1> C-v <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> C-v C-v C-v 
C-v <escape> < C-u 2 7 4 0 C-n <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <up> <up> <down> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<escape> C-b <down-mouse-1> <mouse-movement> <mouse-movement> 
<drag-mouse-1> M-m C-x k <return> M-m r e p o r <tab> 
C-x k <return> M-x r e p o <tab> r t - <tab> <retu
rn>

Recent messages:
Loading vc-cvs...done
Mark saved where search started [2 times]
Mark set
Loading cc-mode...done
Loading imenu...done
Mark saved where search started
Mark set
Auto save file for draft message exists; consider M-x mail-recover
Making completion list...
Loading emacsbug...done

==John ffitch




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* (no subject)
@ 2008-02-25  8:17 Herbert Euler
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Herbert Euler @ 2008-02-25  8:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel; +Cc: acm


Hi Alan,

I found cc mode signals an error.  To reproduce:

1. $ emacs -Q
2. C-x C-f x.c  (an empty file should be able to reproduce)
3. Type `#'

Emacs signals an error: "End of buffer".  I have located the position
that the error is signaled, it is in c-neutralize-syntax-in-CPP.  In
the above use case, this function is invoked as follows:

(c-neutralize-syntax-in-CPP 1 2 0)
error--> End of buffer

Regards,
Guanpeng Xu
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* (no subject)
@ 2008-03-24  1:00 Xavier Maillard
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Xavier Maillard @ 2008-03-24  1:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

Hi,

In the NEWS file (for 23.1), I can read this:

*** diff-add-change-log-entries-other-window iterates through the diff
buffer and tries to create ChangeLog entries for each change.
It is bound to `C-x 4 A'.

If, for some reason, I have many diffs in a file, I would like
this to wait for me typing a log entry (if any) before inserting
yet another entry.

Currently, if I am doing C-x 4 A with my emacs.el file, it ends
up with something like:

2008-03-23  Xavier Maillard  <xma@gnu.org>

	* emacs.el:

	* emacs.el (Man-mode-hook):

	* emacs.el (lambda):

	* emacs.el (kbd):

	* emacs.el (kbd):

	* emacs.el (dired-mode-hook):

	* emacs.el (dired-mode-hook):

	* emacs.el (mm-body-charset-encoding-alist):

	* emacs.el:

	* emacs.el (emacs-lisp-mode-hook):

	* emacs.el (vc-diff-other-window):

	* emacs.el:

	* emacs.el:

So there are many "duplicate" and useless entries. A better
approach would have to split the window with on one side, the
diff entry and on the other side, the changelog buffer. This way
I could review better my change and add an accurate and
informative change message.

---------------------------------
| Diff buffer | Change log buffer|
----------------------------------
| a diff     => description      |
----------------------------------

If changelog could not find an accurate function/variable name to
put into parenthesis, then fail back to the "default" emacs.el
entry.

WDYT ?

	Xavier
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* (no subject)
@ 2008-08-09 18:09 dr-dr xp
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: dr-dr xp @ 2008-08-09 18:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

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-- 
要了几天饱饭就不记得西北风啥味了

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* (no subject)
@ 2009-02-17 18:57 Matthew Lundin
  2009-02-17 20:26 ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Matthew Lundin @ 2009-02-17 18:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi everyone,

With one of the recent updates to org (not sure which one), I started to
have some formatting issues with numbers in html headlines when
exporting from org.

Let's take the following org file:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
#+TITLE: Test

* Headline One
** Subheading One
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

The headline and subheading export to html as:

,----
| <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">
| <h2 id="sec-1"><span class="section-number-2"> 1</span>Headline One </h2>
| <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">
| 
| 
| </div>
| 
| <div id="outline-container-1.1" class="outline-3">
| <h3 id="sec-1.1"><span class="section-number-3"> 1.1</span>Subheading One </h3>
`----

Which appears as: 

,----
| 1Headline One
| 
| 1.1Subheading One
`----

In other words, a space is missing in the exported html.

Thanks,
Matt

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* Re: (no subject)
  2009-02-17 18:57 Matthew Lundin
@ 2009-02-17 20:26 ` Carsten Dominik
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-02-17 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Matthew Lundin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Fixed, thanks.

- Carsten

On Feb 17, 2009, at 7:57 PM, Matthew Lundin wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> With one of the recent updates to org (not sure which one), I  
> started to
> have some formatting issues with numbers in html headlines when
> exporting from org.
>
> Let's take the following org file:
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> #+TITLE: Test
>
> * Headline One
> ** Subheading One
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> The headline and subheading export to html as:
>
> ,----
> | <div id="outline-container-1" class="outline-2">
> | <h2 id="sec-1"><span class="section-number-2"> 1</span>Headline  
> One </h2>
> | <div class="outline-text-2" id="text-1">
> |
> |
> | </div>
> |
> | <div id="outline-container-1.1" class="outline-3">
> | <h3 id="sec-1.1"><span class="section-number-3"> 1.1</ 
> span>Subheading One </h3>
> `----
>
> Which appears as:
>
> ,----
> | 1Headline One
> |
> | 1.1Subheading One
> `----
>
> In other words, a space is missing in the exported html.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode

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* (no subject)
@ 2009-09-18 12:35 Robin Green
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Robin Green @ 2009-09-18 12:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Is there any equivalent to planner-mode's planner-rank.el for org-mode? I want to automatically compute some sort of combined measure of urgency and importance for each of my TODOs, and rank them according to this measure. (Of course, I could write my own code to do this, and I might do just that if there isn't anything suitable already out there.)
-- 
Robin

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* (no subject)
@ 2010-01-15 16:27 Drew Adams
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Drew Adams @ 2010-01-15 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Emacs-Devel devel'

I've gotten this message for a while now when trying to visit the Emacs-Lisp
repository at
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Evcs-imports/emacs/trunk/files/head%3A/lisp/:

 "Internal Server Error"

Is that still the correct URL?





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* (no subject)
@ 2010-06-29 17:50 amscopub-mail
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: amscopub-mail @ 2010-06-29 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

The following latex options produce the right format (an article scaled up to 20pts using the "arev" font):

#+LaTeX_CLASS: article
#+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [12pt]
#+LATEX_HEADER: \usepackage{amsmath,amsthm,amssymb} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[20pt]{extsizes} \usepackage{arev} \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}

However, when I export to HTML, the math equations fail to export. And yes, I set the right variable for exporting latex snippets in HTML.

Ideas? The culprit seems to be the arev package. Export works fine if I remove that. However, why would that cause a problem? 

Using org-mode 6.36
-- 
--Thanks!
U.

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* (no subject)
@ 2010-09-30  8:02 Jambunathan K
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Jambunathan K @ 2010-09-30  8:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel


Emacs version.

,----
| GNU Emacs 23.1.91.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2010-01-03 on PRETEST
`----

I am using package.el 
http://github.com/davidswelt/aquamacs-emacs/raw/aquamacs24

(I hope it is as good as one in the trunk)

If I do M-x list-packages, I see that revert-buffer-function gets set to
package-menu-revert. The problem seems to be that it is having a
'global' effect so that a revert on an elisp buffer fails with

  "if: The current buffer is not a Package Menu"

Please take care of this if it is not already taken care of.

Jambunathan K.



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* (no subject)
@ 2010-10-16  4:59 Richard Stallman
  2010-10-16  6:08 ` Werner LEMBERG
  2010-10-19 18:28 ` Glenn Morris
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2010-10-16  4:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

bzr was slow on savannah due to the use of sftp.
Do people find bzr satisfactory now?


-- 
Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org



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* Re: (no subject)
  2010-10-16  4:59 Richard Stallman
@ 2010-10-16  6:08 ` Werner LEMBERG
  2010-10-16  6:10   ` Werner LEMBERG
  2010-10-18  6:26   ` Richard Stallman
  2010-10-19 18:28 ` Glenn Morris
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Werner LEMBERG @ 2010-10-16  6:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rms; +Cc: emacs-devel


> bzr was slow on savannah due to the use of sftp.
> Do people find bzr satisfactory now?

Well, I'm only doing `bzr pull', and it seems indeed to be more
responsive than previously.  However, the amount of data transferred
by bzr is still excessively large.  For example, updating from
rev. 101894 (Oct. 10th) to today's rev. 101979 (with `bzr pull') used
more than 20MByte!  Looking at the amount of changes actually applied
to the repository, I estimate that git would need only approx. 200 to
300kByte ^[$(Q#|^[(B this is 70 to 100 times less...

It would be great if someone using an emacs git repository could
verify my estimation.

git compresses the data on the remote side before transferring it.
Does bzr omit that step?  Maybe I'm missing a bzr option?  Otherwise,
it looks like a severe flaw in the design.  Given that many users
(including me currently) use mobile internet connections which are
sometimes extremely slow due to weak signal strength, bandwidth *is*
an issue even today.


    Werner



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* Re: (no subject)
  2010-10-16  6:08 ` Werner LEMBERG
@ 2010-10-16  6:10   ` Werner LEMBERG
  2010-10-18  6:26   ` Richard Stallman
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Werner LEMBERG @ 2010-10-16  6:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rms; +Cc: emacs-devel


> Well, I'm only doing `bzr pull', and it seems indeed to be more
> responsive than previously.  However, the amount of data transferred
> by bzr is still excessively large.  For example, updating from
> rev. 101894 (Oct. 10th) to today's rev. 101979 (with `bzr pull')
> used more than 20MByte!

I forgot to mention that I'm currently using bzr version 2.0.5 in case
this makes a difference w.r.t. the amount of transferred data.


    Werner



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* Re: (no subject)
  2010-10-16  6:08 ` Werner LEMBERG
  2010-10-16  6:10   ` Werner LEMBERG
@ 2010-10-18  6:26   ` Richard Stallman
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Richard Stallman @ 2010-10-18  6:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Werner LEMBERG; +Cc: emacs-devel

    Well, I'm only doing `bzr pull', and it seems indeed to be more
    responsive than previously.  However, the amount of data transferred
    by bzr is still excessively large.  For example, updating from
    rev. 101894 (Oct. 10th) to today's rev. 101979 (with `bzr pull') used
    more than 20MByte!  Looking at the amount of changes actually applied
    to the repository, I estimate that git would need only approx. 200 to
    300kByte   this is 70 to 100 times less...

    It would be great if someone using an emacs git repository could
    verify my estimation.

It would be interesting to set up parallel repositories, the latest
bzr and git, and update them at the same times.  Then it would be
possible to rigorously compare the amount of data transferred.

    git compresses the data on the remote side before transferring it.
    Does bzr omit that step?  Maybe I'm missing a bzr option?

It might be that the compression occurs in scp, and you're measuring
the amount of raw data rather than the amount actually transmitted.

But that's just a speculation.  It would be interesting to find out
for certain.

-- 
Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation
51 Franklin St
Boston MA 02110
USA
www.fsf.org, www.gnu.org



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* Re: (no subject)
  2010-10-16  4:59 Richard Stallman
  2010-10-16  6:08 ` Werner LEMBERG
@ 2010-10-19 18:28 ` Glenn Morris
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2010-10-19 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: rms; +Cc: emacs-devel

Richard Stallman wrote:

> bzr was slow on savannah due to the use of sftp.
> Do people find bzr satisfactory now?

It is much improved and personally I find it satisfactory now, yes.



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* (no subject)
@ 2010-10-25  6:44 A. Soare
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: A. Soare @ 2010-10-25  6:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs   Help  [help-gnu-emacs]

I wish to find the bindings of the entries of a menu. ( the analogous for describe-key (C-h k) for keys ).

Thanks in advance,


Alin.



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* (no subject)
@ 2011-02-21 22:13 Vincent-Xavier JUMEL
  2011-02-23 19:52 ` Bernt Hansen
  2011-02-23 19:54 ` Bernt Hansen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Vincent-Xavier JUMEL @ 2011-02-21 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

From: Vincent-Xavier JUMEL <endymion@tauceticentral.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Bug: Bug in agenda on DEADLINE/SCHEDULE with -3d  [7.4]
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:13:32 +0100
Message-ID: <87d3mlyr1v.fsf@tauceticentral.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


An entry with a SCHEDULE or a DEADLINE using the <date -%d[dwm]> doesn't
produce the documented behavior. Anyone does have the same issue ?

----



Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.21.6)
 of 2010-09-01 on rhenium, modified by Debian
Package: Org-mode version 7.4

current state:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
(setq
 org-export-latex-after-initial-vars-hook '(org-beamer-after-initial-vars)
 org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-default-hook
                          org-babel-speed-command-hook)
 org-agenda-files '("~/org/parinux.org")
 org-blocker-hook '(org-block-todo-from-checkboxes)
 org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
 org-capture-templates '(("a" "Ajoute un atelier" entry
                          (file+headline "~/org/parinux.org"
                           "Premier Samedi")
                          (file
                           "~/.emacs.d/org/templates/atelier_parinux.tpl")
                          )
                         ("c" "Ajoute une conf=C3=A9rence" entry
                          (file+headline "~/org/parinux.org"
                           "Conf=C3=A9rences")
                          (file
                           "~/.emacs.d/org/templates/conference_parinux.tpl=
")
                          )
                         ("v" "Ajoute un vote" entry
                          (file+headline "~/org/parinux.org"
                           "Votes")
                          (file
                           "~/.emacs.d/org/templates/vote_parinux_ca_2011.t=
pl")
                          )
                         )
 org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
 org-startup-folded 'content
 org-export-blocks-postblock-hook '(org-exp-res/src-name-cleanup)
 org-export-latex-format-toc-function 'org-export-latex-format-toc-default
 org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe
                      org-src-native-tab-command-maybe
                      org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe)
 org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer
                     org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
 org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-export-first-hook '(org-beamer-initialize-open-trackers)
 org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
 org-default-notes-file "~/org/notes"
 org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer)
 org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees
                  org-cycle-hide-drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines
                  org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
 org-export-preprocess-before-normalizing-links-hook '(org-remove-file-link=
-modifiers)
 org-mode-hook '(#[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
                   [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook
                    org-show-block-all append local]
                   5]
                 #[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
                   [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook
                    org-babel-show-result-all append local]
                   5]
                 org-babel-result-hide-spec
                 org-babel-hide-all-hashes)
 org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-babel-hash-at-point
                          org-babel-execute-safely-maybe)
 org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-export-interblocks '((lob org-babel-exp-lob-one-liners)
                          (src org-babel-exp-inline-src-blocks))
 org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
 org-export-preprocess-before-selecting-backend-code-hook '(org-beamer-sele=
ct-beamer-code)
 org-export-latex-final-hook '(org-beamer-amend-header
                               org-beamer-fix-toc
                               org-beamer-auto-fragile-frames
                               org-beamer-place-default-actions-for-lists)
 org-enforce-todo-checkbox-dependencies t
 org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
 org-export-blocks '((src org-babel-exp-src-blocks nil)
                     (comment org-export-blocks-format-comment t)
                     (ditaa org-export-blocks-format-ditaa nil)
                     (dot org-export-blocks-format-dot nil))
 )

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* (no subject)
@ 2011-02-23  4:41 Jay Bingham
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Jay Bingham @ 2011-02-23  4:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

I have began using Template.el many years ago. Recently after not using Emacs for about two years I have begun to use it again.
I have always meant to make use of the Version: line that is in many of the templates that come with template.el and have wanted to update it automatically. It appears that template.el has the capability to do this but the documentation for how to do this is not very clear. I am wondering if anyone out there has used the features template.el to automatically update the version: line, who could provide me an example of how to accomplish this.

I am fairly sure that it does not matter but just in case it does, I am running emacs 23.2 on Windows XP.
__
J_)
C_)ingham

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* Re: (no subject)
  2011-02-21 22:13 Vincent-Xavier JUMEL
@ 2011-02-23 19:52 ` Bernt Hansen
  2011-02-23 19:54 ` Bernt Hansen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2011-02-23 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vincent-Xavier JUMEL; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

"Vincent-Xavier JUMEL" <endymion@thetys-retz.net> writes:

> From: Vincent-Xavier JUMEL <endymion@tauceticentral.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Bug: Bug in agenda on DEADLINE/SCHEDULE with -3d  [7.4]
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:13:32 +0100
> Message-ID: <87d3mlyr1v.fsf@tauceticentral.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
>
> An entry with a SCHEDULE or a DEADLINE using the <date -%d[dwm]> doesn't
> produce the documented behavior. Anyone does have the same issue ?
>
> ----
>
>
>
> Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.21.6)
>  of 2010-09-01 on rhenium, modified by Debian
> Package: Org-mode version 7.4
>
> current state:
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> (setq
>  org-export-latex-after-initial-vars-hook '(org-beamer-after-initial-vars)
>  org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-default-hook
>                           org-babel-speed-command-hook)
>  org-agenda-files '("~/org/parinux.org")
>  org-blocker-hook '(org-block-todo-from-checkboxes)
>  org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
>  org-capture-templates '(("a" "Ajoute un atelier" entry
>                           (file+headline "~/org/parinux.org"
>                            "Premier Samedi")
>                           (file
>                            "~/.emacs.d/org/templates/atelier_parinux.tpl")
>                           )
>                          ("c" "Ajoute une conf=C3=A9rence" entry
>                           (file+headline "~/org/parinux.org"
>                            "Conf=C3=A9rences")
>                           (file
>                            "~/.emacs.d/org/templates/conference_parinux.tpl=
> ")
>                           )
>                          ("v" "Ajoute un vote" entry
>                           (file+headline "~/org/parinux.org"
>                            "Votes")
>                           (file
>                            "~/.emacs.d/org/templates/vote_parinux_ca_2011.t=
> pl")
>                           )
>                          )
>  org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
>  org-startup-folded 'content
>  org-export-blocks-postblock-hook '(org-exp-res/src-name-cleanup)
>  org-export-latex-format-toc-function 'org-export-latex-format-toc-default
>  org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe
>                       org-src-native-tab-command-maybe
>                       org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe)
>  org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer
>                      org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
>  org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
>  org-export-first-hook '(org-beamer-initialize-open-trackers)
>  org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
>  org-default-notes-file "~/org/notes"
>  org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer)
>  org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees
>                   org-cycle-hide-drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines
>                   org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
>  org-export-preprocess-before-normalizing-links-hook '(org-remove-file-link=
> -modifiers)
>  org-mode-hook '(#[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
>                    [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook
>                     org-show-block-all append local]
>                    5]
>                  #[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
>                    [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook
>                     org-babel-show-result-all append local]
>                    5]
>                  org-babel-result-hide-spec
>                  org-babel-hide-all-hashes)
>  org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-babel-hash-at-point
>                           org-babel-execute-safely-maybe)
>  org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
>  org-export-interblocks '((lob org-babel-exp-lob-one-liners)
>                           (src org-babel-exp-inline-src-blocks))
>  org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
>  org-export-preprocess-before-selecting-backend-code-hook '(org-beamer-sele=
> ct-beamer-code)
>  org-export-latex-final-hook '(org-beamer-amend-header
>                                org-beamer-fix-toc
>                                org-beamer-auto-fragile-frames
>                                org-beamer-place-default-actions-for-lists)
>  org-enforce-todo-checkbox-dependencies t
>  org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
>  org-export-blocks '((src org-babel-exp-src-blocks nil)
>                      (comment org-export-blocks-format-comment t)
>                      (ditaa org-export-blocks-format-ditaa nil)
>                      (dot org-export-blocks-format-dot nil))
>  )
>
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> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
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* Re: (no subject)
  2011-02-21 22:13 Vincent-Xavier JUMEL
  2011-02-23 19:52 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2011-02-23 19:54 ` Bernt Hansen
  2011-04-09  9:41   ` Vincent-Xavier JUMEL
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2011-02-23 19:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vincent-Xavier JUMEL; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

"Vincent-Xavier JUMEL" <endymion@thetys-retz.net> writes:

> From: Vincent-Xavier JUMEL <endymion@tauceticentral.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
> To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Subject: Bug: Bug in agenda on DEADLINE/SCHEDULE with -3d  [7.4]
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:13:32 +0100
> Message-ID: <87d3mlyr1v.fsf@tauceticentral.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
>
> An entry with a SCHEDULE or a DEADLINE using the <date -%d[dwm]> doesn't
> produce the documented behavior. Anyone does have the same issue ?
>
> ----
>
>
>
> Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.2.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.21.6)
>  of 2010-09-01 on rhenium, modified by Debian
> Package: Org-mode version 7.4
>

Please provide a sample task and a description of what you get and what
you expected.  AFAIK SCHEDULE and -3d is not intended to work - this is
for DEADLINES: only to specify the number of days before the deadline
that you want the entry to show up in your agenda.  I don't think it has
any meaning for SCHEDULED: entries.

-Bernt

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* Re: (no subject)
  2011-02-23 19:54 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2011-04-09  9:41   ` Vincent-Xavier JUMEL
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Vincent-Xavier JUMEL @ 2011-04-09  9:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bernt Hansen; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

:SCHEDULED: and :DEADLINE: which is confusing. Documentation
<http://orgmode.org/manual/Repeated-tasks.html#Repeated-tasks> example
Le 23 février à 20:54 Bernt Hansen a écrit
> 
> Please provide a sample task and a description of what you get and what
> you expected.  AFAIK SCHEDULE and -3d is not intended to work - this is
> for DEADLINES: only to specify the number of days before the deadline
> that you want the entry to show up in your agenda.  I don't think it has
> any meaning for SCHEDULED: entries.
>
In my opinion, documentation doesn't make a clear separation between
let me think that <date -3d> will work with SCHEDULED.

Documentation should have a paragraph on repetear <date +d> and on
paragraph on delaying.
-- 
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* (no subject)
@ 2011-08-06  1:19 Vikas Rawal
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  To: emacs-orgmode



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@ 2012-01-05 17:36 Ab Cd
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From: Ab Cd @ 2012-01-05 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

Hello,


Please consider the following file :

------------------------------8<------------------------------
* TODO working
** TODO 1st part of the work
   CLOCK: [2012-01-05 jeu. 17:18]

** TODO second part of the work [0/3]
   - [ ] Task 1
     - [ ] Subtask 1
     - [ ] Subtask 2
     - [ ] Subtask 3
   - [ ] Task 2
   - [ ] Task 3

------------------------------>8------------------------------

It I switch the second TODO (ie: C-c C-t on the line "1st part of the work"), it clocks out the headline.

So 
------------------------------8<------------------------------
** TODO 1st part of the work
   CLOCK: [2012-01-05 jeu. 17:18]
------------------------------>8------------------------------
becomes 
------------------------------8<------------------------------
** DONE 1st part of the work
   CLOCK: [2012-01-05 jeu. 17:18]--[2012-01-05 jeu. 18:25] =>  1:07
------------------------------>8------------------------------

And that's fine.

Now, if I try to toggle the "Subtask"s with cc, it toggles Task 1 accordingly (to "[-] Task 1" and then later to "[X] Task 1"). And then switching all tasks switche the headline checkbox counter (to [1/3], [2/3] and then [3/3]).

Again it's fine.

But why shoudln't a TODO headline containing only checkbox that are all completed ([3/3] in this case) be switched to done?

Also, why can't I toggle "Task 1" ? Let's assume I was away from my computer when completing some or all of the subtasks. I would really like to check Task 1 and have all the Subtasks checked automatically.

The same thing applies if I switch the 2 headlines "{1st,second} part of the work" to DONE. Shouldn't that switch the "working" headline to DONE too? 

One last thing. I also think I would be nice that, if I switch "second part of the work" to DONE, the counter would be set to [3/3] and all the tasks and subtasks be checked as done.

What do you think?

Cheers.


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* (no subject)
@ 2012-01-23 12:00 Tom Regner
  2012-01-23 16:34 ` Tom Regner
  2012-01-23 20:31 ` Eric Schulte
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Tom Regner @ 2012-01-23 12:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

From aea3adc952de33aa9acad94fbd9baa717b7b1a1e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Tom Regner <tom@goochesa.de>
Rcpt To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:39:52 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] ob.el Adhere to current :padline header during noweb dereferencing.

At the moment using the :noweb-ref: property approach on subtrees results in the tangled code beeing broken
because the newlines before the #+end_src line are excluded from the output. This patch uses :padline
to check if a newline should be added. The default being yes, tangling with subtree mangling now produces correct
results; code depending on the (errorneous?) behaviour would be broken though.
---
 lisp/ob.el |    9 ++++++---
 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/ob.el b/lisp/ob.el
index 47be708..398a997 100644
--- a/lisp/ob.el
+++ b/lisp/ob.el
@@ -2211,13 +2211,16 @@ block but are passed literally to the \"example-block\"."
 					     (nth 4 i))
 					 source-name)
 			      (let* ((body (org-babel-expand-noweb-references i))
-				     (full (if comment
+					 (padded (if (not (string= "no" (cdr (assoc :padline (nth 2 i)))))
+								(concat body "\n") 
+								body ))
+					 (full (if comment
 					       ((lambda (cs)
 						  (concat (c-wrap (car cs)) "\n"
-							  body "\n"
+							  padded "\n"
 							  (c-wrap (cadr cs))))
 						(org-babel-tangle-comment-links i))
-					     body)))
+					     padded)))
 				(setq expansion (concat expansion full))))))))
 		    expansion)
 		  ;; possibly raise an error if named block doesn't exist
-- 
1.7.5.4

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-01-23 12:00 Tom Regner
@ 2012-01-23 16:34 ` Tom Regner
  2012-01-23 20:31 ` Eric Schulte
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Tom Regner @ 2012-01-23 16:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Tom Regner <tom@goochesa.de> writes:

> From aea3adc952de33aa9acad94fbd9baa717b7b1a1e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Tom Regner <tom@goochesa.de>
> Rcpt To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:39:52 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH] ob.el Adhere to current :padline header during noweb dereferencing.
[...]
I'm awfully sorry -- shall I remail the patch without the errorneous
empty line in between the headers, so that the patchwork server will
receive it?

kind regards,
Tom

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-01-23 12:00 Tom Regner
  2012-01-23 16:34 ` Tom Regner
@ 2012-01-23 20:31 ` Eric Schulte
  2012-01-24  1:55   ` Tom Regner
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Eric Schulte @ 2012-01-23 20:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tom Regner; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

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I'd rather not change the default silently in this way.

Could you provide a minimal example of the difference you describe?  I
just tried viewing the expanded form of the following code block and saw
no difference between :noweb-ref and normal #+name: based expansions.


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* examples

#+name: first
#+begin_src sh
  echo 1
#+end_src

#+begin_src sh :noweb-ref second
  echo 2
#+end_src

#+begin_src sh :noweb yes
  <<first>>
  <<second>>
#+end_src

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Thanks,

Tom Regner <tom@goochesa.de> writes:

> From aea3adc952de33aa9acad94fbd9baa717b7b1a1e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Tom Regner <tom@goochesa.de>
> Rcpt To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:39:52 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH] ob.el Adhere to current :padline header during noweb dereferencing.
>
> At the moment using the :noweb-ref: property approach on subtrees results in the tangled code beeing broken
> because the newlines before the #+end_src line are excluded from the output. This patch uses :padline
> to check if a newline should be added. The default being yes, tangling with subtree mangling now produces correct
> results; code depending on the (errorneous?) behaviour would be broken though.
> ---
>  lisp/ob.el |    9 ++++++---
>  1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/lisp/ob.el b/lisp/ob.el
> index 47be708..398a997 100644
> --- a/lisp/ob.el
> +++ b/lisp/ob.el
> @@ -2211,13 +2211,16 @@ block but are passed literally to the \"example-block\"."
>  					     (nth 4 i))
>  					 source-name)
>  			      (let* ((body (org-babel-expand-noweb-references i))
> -				     (full (if comment
> +					 (padded (if (not (string= "no" (cdr (assoc :padline (nth 2 i)))))
> +								(concat body "\n") 
> +								body ))
> +					 (full (if comment
>  					       ((lambda (cs)
>  						  (concat (c-wrap (car cs)) "\n"
> -							  body "\n"
> +							  padded "\n"
>  							  (c-wrap (cadr cs))))
>  						(org-babel-tangle-comment-links i))
> -					     body)))
> +					     padded)))
>  				(setq expansion (concat expansion full))))))))
>  		    expansion)
>  		  ;; possibly raise an error if named block doesn't exist

-- 
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-01-23 20:31 ` Eric Schulte
@ 2012-01-24  1:55   ` Tom Regner
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From: Tom Regner @ 2012-01-24  1:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com> writes:

> I'd rather not change the default silently in this way.
I understand that.
>
> Could you provide a minimal example of the difference you describe?  I
> just tried viewing the expanded form of the following code block and saw
> no difference between :noweb-ref and normal #+name: based expansions.
>
> * examples
>
> #+name: first
> #+begin_src sh
>   echo 1
> #+end_src
>
> #+begin_src sh :noweb-ref second
>   echo 2
> #+end_src
> #+begin_src sh :noweb yes
>   <<first>>
>   <<second>>
> #+end_src
>
> Thanks,
>

Example document:
--------------------------->%--------------------------------
* Subtree
  :PROPERTIES:
  :noweb-ref: subtree
  :END:
** Part 1
#+begin_src sh  
  Line One
#+end_src sh 
** Part 2
#+begin_src sh 
  Line Two
#+end_src sh
* Assamble it
#+begin_src sh :tangle yes :noweb tangle
  <<subtree>>
#+end_src sh
--------------------------->%--------------------------------


tangled without my patch:

--------------------------->%--------------------------------

Line OneLine Two
--------------------------->%--------------------------------


tangled with my patch

--------------------------->%--------------------------------

Line One
Line Two
--------------------------->%--------------------------------

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-05-11 20:56 Rick Frankel
@ 2012-05-11 20:38 ` Eric Schulte
  2012-05-11 22:43   ` Bernt Hansen
  2012-05-17  6:23   ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Eric Schulte @ 2012-05-11 20:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rick Frankel; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Thanks for the patch, I would like to apply it.

Have you signed the FSF papers for contribution to Org-mode and Emacs?
If you haven't would you be willing to?  See the Org-mode contribution
instructions for more information.
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html

Thanks!

rick@rickster.com (Rick Frankel) writes:

> From 113bbbe1ce9540e2af8c613ba655599fc474cedd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Rick Frankel <rick@rickster.com>
> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:54:32 -0400
> Subject: [PATCH] Add support for perl dbi to SQL code block
>
> * lisp/ob-sql.el (org-babel-execute:sql): Add dbi as a suppored engine.
>
> Invokes `dbish' with the arguments specified to ":cmdline". Minimum is
> usually the "dbi:{dbd}" argument, plus the username and password if
> required.
> For example:
>
>  lisp/ob-sql.el |   11 ++++++++++-
>  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> diff --git a/lisp/ob-sql.el b/lisp/ob-sql.el
> index e3f6edd..c6d4790 100644
> --- a/lisp/ob-sql.el
> +++ b/lisp/ob-sql.el
> @@ -71,6 +71,11 @@ This function is called by `org-babel-execute-src-block'."
>                         (org-babel-temp-file "sql-out-")))
>  	 (header-delim "")
>           (command (case (intern engine)
> +                    ('dbi (format "dbish --batch %s < %s | sed '%s' > %s"
> +				  (or cmdline "")
> +				  (org-babel-process-file-name in-file)
> +				  "/^+/d;s/^\|//;$d"
> +				  (org-babel-process-file-name out-file)))
>                      ('monetdb (format "mclient -f tab %s < %s > %s"
>                                        (or cmdline "")
>                                        (org-babel-process-file-name in-file)
> @@ -90,7 +95,11 @@ This function is called by `org-babel-execute-src-block'."
>  				    (or cmdline "")))
>                      (t (error "no support for the %s sql engine" engine)))))
>      (with-temp-file in-file
> -      (insert (org-babel-expand-body:sql body params)))
> +      (insert
> +       (case (intern engine)
> +	 ('dbi "/format partbox\n")
> +	 (t ""))
> +       (org-babel-expand-body:sql body params)))
>      (message command)
>      (shell-command command)
>      (if (or (member "scalar" result-params)

-- 
Eric Schulte
http://cs.unm.edu/~eschulte/

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* (no subject)
@ 2012-05-11 20:56 Rick Frankel
  2012-05-11 20:38 ` Eric Schulte
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Rick Frankel @ 2012-05-11 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

From 113bbbe1ce9540e2af8c613ba655599fc474cedd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Rick Frankel <rick@rickster.com>
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 16:54:32 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] Add support for perl dbi to SQL code block

* lisp/ob-sql.el (org-babel-execute:sql): Add dbi as a suppored engine.

Invokes `dbish' with the arguments specified to ":cmdline". Minimum is
usually the "dbi:{dbd}" argument, plus the username and password if
required.
For example:
    #+begin_src sql :engine dbi :cmdline dbi:Pg:database=postgres
---
 lisp/ob-sql.el |   11 ++++++++++-
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/lisp/ob-sql.el b/lisp/ob-sql.el
index e3f6edd..c6d4790 100644
--- a/lisp/ob-sql.el
+++ b/lisp/ob-sql.el
@@ -71,6 +71,11 @@ This function is called by `org-babel-execute-src-block'."
                        (org-babel-temp-file "sql-out-")))
 	 (header-delim "")
          (command (case (intern engine)
+                    ('dbi (format "dbish --batch %s < %s | sed '%s' > %s"
+				  (or cmdline "")
+				  (org-babel-process-file-name in-file)
+				  "/^+/d;s/^\|//;$d"
+				  (org-babel-process-file-name out-file)))
                     ('monetdb (format "mclient -f tab %s < %s > %s"
                                       (or cmdline "")
                                       (org-babel-process-file-name in-file)
@@ -90,7 +95,11 @@ This function is called by `org-babel-execute-src-block'."
 				    (or cmdline "")))
                     (t (error "no support for the %s sql engine" engine)))))
     (with-temp-file in-file
-      (insert (org-babel-expand-body:sql body params)))
+      (insert
+       (case (intern engine)
+	 ('dbi "/format partbox\n")
+	 (t ""))
+       (org-babel-expand-body:sql body params)))
     (message command)
     (shell-command command)
     (if (or (member "scalar" result-params)
-- 
1.7.10.1

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-05-11 20:38 ` Eric Schulte
@ 2012-05-11 22:43   ` Bernt Hansen
  2012-05-17  6:23   ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bernt Hansen @ 2012-05-11 22:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Schulte; +Cc: Rick Frankel, emacs-orgmode

Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com> writes:

>> * lisp/ob-sql.el (org-babel-execute:sql): Add dbi as a suppored engine.

s/suppored/supported/

-Bernt

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-05-11 20:38 ` Eric Schulte
  2012-05-11 22:43   ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2012-05-17  6:23   ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-05-17  6:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Schulte; +Cc: Rick Frankel, emacs-orgmode

Hi Eric and Rick,

Eric Schulte <eric.schulte@gmx.com> writes:

> Thanks for the patch, I would like to apply it.
>
> Have you signed the FSF papers for contribution to Org-mode and Emacs?

I guess some communication happened offlist -- if Rick does not have the
FSF papers, we need to mark the change as TINYCHANGE. 

> If you haven't would you be willing to?  See the Org-mode contribution
> instructions for more information.
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contribute.html

Also the ChangeLog should start with an uppercase letter and end with a
point...  sorry to nitpick on this, but I try to ease my life in
emacs-devel :)

Thanks for the patch anyway,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-05-30  0:51               ` Mark E. Shoulson
@ 2012-05-31  1:50                 ` Mark Shoulson
  2012-05-31 13:38                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Mark Shoulson @ 2012-05-31  1:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Mark E. Shoulson <mark <at> kli.org> writes:


> 
> All right, bottom line, this is sort of what I'm seeing.  I'm not 100% 
> sure which files should house these things, but something like this:
> 
> 1) a variable containing for each language regexp for each of: open 
> double-quote, close double-quote, open single-quote, close single-quote, 
> and maybe mid-word apostrophe.  Odds are these regexps are going to be 
> the same for just about all languages (the regexps detecting them, mind 
> you), so probably should have some sort of default that the alist can 
> just reference.  A language should also be allowed to define other quote 
> regexps in its list too.  We need these to be ordered, with a standard 
> set, so that we can have...
> 
> 2) for each *exporter* (including on-screen display), a variable that 
> defines, for each language, what the *substitution* will be for 
> open-double-quote, close-double-quote, etc.  Other extras can be defined 
> too.  That way we can have an exporter-independent way to detect quotes 
> to be smartified, but each exporter has its own way to smartify them.
> 
> 3) Since most exporters are probably going to be handling doing the 
> process approximately the same (match the regexp, stick in the 
> associated substitution), org-export.el should have a generic function 
> that does this which each exporter *may* call in (or as) its 
> quote-smartifier in its text translator, unless it needs something more 
> specific which it can provide itself.
> 
> In terms of what is handled, the idea in my head is that we would expect 
> the writer to be using " or ' to surround their quotes, regardless of 
> what their native custom is (if they're doing it using their 
> language-specific quote-marks, we don't need to bother with all this 
> anyway).  Goal is to handle either "quotes" or 'quotes' in either 
> nesting (or no nesting, if someone does "quote' for some reason), and 
> with any luck not get too confused with other uses of apostrophe.
> 
> It makes sense to me, but I bet I explained it badly and people are 
> going to have all kinds of issues with it. :)
> 
> No telling when (if?) I'll be able to produce something along these 
> lines, but it's something to start thinking about anyway.
> 
> ~mark
> 
> 


Regarding the "this is what I'm seeing", I paste at the bottom a
preliminary patch.  It is totally *not* worth actually applying it unless you
want to develop this; it's a snapshot mid-development.  But it does seem to
actually work.  The same set of regexps is used, and the same function, though
that is defeasible and an exporter can define its own.  The hardest part was
getting the onscreen versions showing right (also the most recently and probably
best tested, so the actual exporters might be more bumpy).  Actual substitutions
being used are not necessarily typologically sensible; chosen more so it's
easier to see the action of the process.  Nothing is in the right place, things
that should be customizables aren't... it's proof-of-concept. Am I going in the
right direction, as far as export-engine is concerned?

==========

From 420048063e3fd2af1b019c48864d58d82cef62ef Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Mark Shoulson <mark@kli.org>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 23:01:12 -0400
Subject: [PATCH] Just barely works, nothing in the right places.  For
 entertainment purposes only.

---
 contrib/lisp/org-e-html.el  |    5 ++++
 contrib/lisp/org-e-latex.el |   53 +++++++++++++++++++++----------------------
 contrib/lisp/org-export.el  |   52 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 lisp/org.el                 |   50 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 4 files changed, 133 insertions(+), 27 deletions(-)

diff --git a/contrib/lisp/org-e-html.el b/contrib/lisp/org-e-html.el
index de98493..b851713 100644
--- a/contrib/lisp/org-e-html.el
+++ b/contrib/lisp/org-e-html.el
@@ -1077,6 +1077,11 @@ in order to mimic default behaviour:
 
 ;;;; Plain text
 
+(defvar org-e-html-quote-replacements
+  '(("fr" "« " " »" "‘" "’" "’")
+    ("en" "“" "”" "‘" "’" "’")
+    ("de" "„" "“" "‚" "‘" "’"))
+
 (defcustom org-e-html-quotes
   '(("fr"
      ("\\(\\s-\\|[[(]\\|^\\)\"" . "«~")
diff --git a/contrib/lisp/org-e-latex.el b/contrib/lisp/org-e-latex.el
index 67e9197..540ebe1 100644
--- a/contrib/lisp/org-e-latex.el
+++ b/contrib/lisp/org-e-latex.el
@@ -687,6 +687,10 @@ during latex export it will output
 
 ;;;; Plain text
 
+(defvar org-e-latex-quote-replacements
+  '(("fr" "«~" "~»" "‹~" "~›" "/!")
+    ("en" "((" "))" ".(" ")." "/")))
+
 (defcustom org-e-latex-quotes
   '(("fr"
      ("\\(\\s-\\|[[(]\\|^\\)\"" . "«~")
@@ -699,25 +703,22 @@ during latex export it will output
   "Alist for quotes to use when converting english double-quotes.
 
 The CAR of each item in this alist is the language code.
-The CDR of each item in this alist is a list of three CONS:
-- the first CONS defines the opening quote;
-- the second CONS defines the closing quote;
-- the last CONS defines single quotes.
+The CDR of each item in this alist is a list of CONS:
+- the first CONS should define the opening quote;
+- the second CONS should define the closing quote;
+- subsequent CONS should define any other quotes, e.g. single, etc.
 
 For each item in a CONS, the first string is a regexp
 for allowed characters before/after the quote, the second
 string defines the replacement string for this quote."
   :group 'org-export-e-latex
-  :type '(list
-	  (cons :tag "Opening quote"
-		(string :tag "Regexp for char before")
-		(string :tag "Replacement quote     "))
-	  (cons :tag "Closing quote"
-		(string :tag "Regexp for char after ")
-		(string :tag "Replacement quote     "))
-	  (cons :tag "Single quote"
-		(string :tag "Regexp for char before")
-		(string :tag "Replacement quote     "))))
+  :type '(repeat
+	  (cons
+	   (string :tag "language code")
+	   (repeat
+	    (cons :tag "Quote"
+		  (string :tag "Regexp ")
+		  (string :tag "Replacement quote     "))))))
 
 
 ;;;; Compilation
@@ -852,19 +853,17 @@ nil."
 	     options
 	     ","))
 
-(defun org-e-latex--quotation-marks (text info)
-  "Export quotation marks depending on language conventions.
-TEXT is a string containing quotation marks to be replaced.  INFO
-is a plist used as a communication channel."
-  (mapc (lambda(l)
-	  (let ((start 0))
-	    (while (setq start (string-match (car l) text start))
-	      (let ((new-quote (concat (match-string 1 text) (cdr l))))
-		(setq text (replace-match new-quote  t t text))))))
-	(cdr (or (assoc (plist-get info :language) org-e-latex-quotes)
-		 ;; Falls back on English.
-		 (assoc "en" org-e-latex-quotes))))
-  text)
+(defun org-e-latex--quotation-marks (text info) 
+  (org-export-quotation-marks text info org-e-latex-quote-replacements))
+  ;; (mapc (lambda(l)
+  ;; 	  (let ((start 0))
+  ;; 	    (while (setq start (string-match (car l) text start))
+  ;; 	      (let ((new-quote (concat (match-string 1 text) (cdr l))))
+  ;; 		(setq text (replace-match new-quote  t t text))))))
+  ;; 	(cdr (or (assoc (plist-get info :language) org-e-latex-quotes)
+  ;; 		 ;; Falls back on English.
+  ;; 		 (assoc "en" org-e-latex-quotes))))
+  ;; text)
 
 (defun org-e-latex--wrap-label (element output)
   "Wrap label associated to ELEMENT around OUTPUT, if appropriate.
diff --git a/contrib/lisp/org-export.el b/contrib/lisp/org-export.el
index b9294e5..aacb448 100644
--- a/contrib/lisp/org-export.el
+++ b/contrib/lisp/org-export.el
@@ -284,6 +284,58 @@ rules.")
   :tag "Org Export General"
   :group 'org-export)
 
+;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
+;; Probably a defcustom eventually.
+
+;; Each element of this consists of: car=language code, cdr=list of
+;; double-quote-open-regexp, double-quote-close-regexp,
+;; single-quote-open-regexp, single-quote-close-regexp, &optional
+;; single-apostrophe regexp?
+;; Just about all will be the same anyway, so mostly language DEFAULT.
+
+;; For testing purposes, poorly-designed at first.
+(defvar org-export-quotes-regexps
+  '((DEFAULT 
+      "\\(?:\\s-\\|[[(]\\|^\\)\\(\"\\)\\w" 
+      "\\(?:\\S-\\)\\(\"\\)\\s-" 
+      "\\(?:\\s-\\|(\\|^\\)\\('\\)\\w"
+      "\\w\\('\\)\\(?:\\s-\\|\\s.\\|$\\)"
+      "\\w\\('\\)\\w")))
+
+;; Generic function, usable by exporters, but they can define their own
+;; instead.
+(defun org-export-quotation-marks (text info replacements)
+  "Export quotation marks depending on language conventions.
+TEXT is a string containing quotation marks to be replaced.  INFO
+is a plist used as a communication channel."
+  (let* ((start 0)
+	 (regexps 
+	  (cdr 
+	   (or 
+	    (assoc (plist-get info :language)
+		   org-export-quotes-regexps)
+	    (assoc 'DEFAULT org-export-quotes-regexps))))
+	 (subs (cdr (or (assoc (plist-get info :language)
+			       replacements)
+			(assoc "en" replacements))))
+	 (quotes (pairlis regexps subs)))
+    (mapc (lambda (p)
+	    (let ((re (car p))
+		  (su (cdr p)))
+	      (while (setq start (string-match re text start))
+		(setq text (replace-match su t t text 1)))))
+	  quotes))
+  text)
+
+(defvar org-screen-smart-quotes
+  '(("en" "“" "”" "‘" "’" "’")
+    ("fr" "«" "»" "‹" "›" "’")
+    ("de" "„" "“" "‚" "’" "’")))
+
+
+
+;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
+
 (defcustom org-export-with-archived-trees 'headline
   "Whether sub-trees with the ARCHIVE tag should be exported.
 
diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 8a141cf..72bf4b0 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -5927,6 +5927,7 @@ needs to be inserted at a specific position in the
font-lock sequence.")
 	   ;; Specials
 	   '(org-do-latex-and-special-faces)
 	   '(org-fontify-entities)
+	   '(org-fontify-quotes)
 	   '(org-raise-scripts)
 	   ;; Code
 	   '(org-activate-code (1 'org-code t))
@@ -5948,6 +5949,55 @@ needs to be inserted at a specific position in the
font-lock sequence.")
 		   '(org-font-lock-keywords t nil nil backward-paragraph))
     (kill-local-variable 'font-lock-keywords) nil))
 
+(defvar org-smart-quotes nil)
+(defvar org-smart-quotes-replacements
+  '("«" "»" "‹" "›" "’"))
+;;  '("“" "”" "‘" "’" "’"))
+
+;; Nother idea, try this: like in original smart-quotes attempt.
+;; String all the regexps into one big regexp with \\| between them.
+;; Possibly have to parenthesize them but that's okay, since if
+;; each elt is in its own group, then those will be the odd-numbered groups
+;; and the inner group (of the actual quote) will be groups 2,4,6, etc.
+
+(defun splice-string (lst join)
+  (if (null (cdr lst)) (car lst)
+    (concat (car lst) join (splice-string (cdr lst) join))))
+
+(defun org-fontify-quotes (limit)
+  (require 'org-export)
+  (when org-smart-quotes
+    (let* ((start (point))
+	   k su
+	   (regexps
+	    (cdr 
+	     (assoc 'DEFAULT org-export-quotes-regexps)))
+	   (allreg (splice-string regexps "\\|"))
+	   (quotes (pairlis regexps org-smart-quotes-replacements)))
+      ;; (message "%s" allreg)
+      (catch 'match
+	(while (re-search-forward allreg limit t)
+	  (cond ((match-string 1)
+		 (setq k 1 su (nth 0 org-smart-quotes-replacements)))
+		((match-string 2)
+		 (setq k 2 su (nth 1 org-smart-quotes-replacements)))
+		((match-string 3)
+		 (setq k 3 su (nth 2 org-smart-quotes-replacements)))
+		((match-string 4)
+		 (setq k 4 su (nth 3 org-smart-quotes-replacements)))
+		((match-string 5)
+		 (setq k 5 su (nth 4 org-smart-quotes-replacements)))
+		;;(t
+		;; (message "????")))
+		)
+	  ;; (message "%s %s" k (match-data))
+	  (add-text-properties (match-beginning k) (match-end k)
+			       (list 'font-lock-fontified t
+				     'face 'org-warning))
+	  (compose-region (match-beginning k) (match-end k) su nil)
+	  (backward-char 1)
+	  (throw 'match t))))))
+
 (defun org-toggle-pretty-entities ()
   "Toggle the composition display of entities as UTF8 characters."
   (interactive)
-- 
1.7.7.6

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-05-31  1:50                 ` (no subject) Mark Shoulson
@ 2012-05-31 13:38                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2012-05-31 13:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mark Shoulson; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Mark Shoulson <mark@kli.org> writes:

> +(defvar org-e-html-quote-replacements
> +  '(("fr" "« " " »" "‘" "’" "’")
> +    ("en" "“" "”" "‘" "’" "’")
> +    ("de" "„" "“" "‚" "‘" "’"))

A docstring will be required for this variable. It should be
a defcustom.

> +(defvar org-e-latex-quote-replacements
> +  '(("fr" "«~" "~»" "‹~" "~›" "/!")
> +    ("en" "((" "))" ".(" ")." "/")))

Ditto.

>  (defcustom org-e-latex-quotes
>    '(("fr"
>       ("\\(\\s-\\|[[(]\\|^\\)\"" . "«~")
> @@ -699,25 +703,22 @@ during latex export it will output
>    "Alist for quotes to use when converting english double-quotes.
>  
>  The CAR of each item in this alist is the language code.
> -The CDR of each item in this alist is a list of three CONS:
> -- the first CONS defines the opening quote;
> -- the second CONS defines the closing quote;
> -- the last CONS defines single quotes.
> +The CDR of each item in this alist is a list of CONS:
> +- the first CONS should define the opening quote;
> +- the second CONS should define the closing quote;
> +- subsequent CONS should define any other quotes, e.g. single, etc.
>  
>  For each item in a CONS, the first string is a regexp
>  for allowed characters before/after the quote, the second
>  string defines the replacement string for this quote."
>    :group 'org-export-e-latex
> -  :type '(list
> -	  (cons :tag "Opening quote"
> -		(string :tag "Regexp for char before")
> -		(string :tag "Replacement quote     "))
> -	  (cons :tag "Closing quote"
> -		(string :tag "Regexp for char after ")
> -		(string :tag "Replacement quote     "))
> -	  (cons :tag "Single quote"
> -		(string :tag "Regexp for char before")
> -		(string :tag "Replacement quote     "))))
> +  :type '(repeat
> +	  (cons
> +	   (string :tag "language code")
> +	   (repeat
> +	    (cons :tag "Quote"
> +		  (string :tag "Regexp ")
> +		  (string :tag "Replacement quote     "))))))

The docstring is not valid. It's now an an alist whose key is the
language code and the value is a list of strings, not cons cells.

> +(defun org-e-latex--quotation-marks (text info) 
> +  (org-export-quotation-marks text info org-e-latex-quote-replacements))
> +  ;; (mapc (lambda(l)
> +  ;; 	  (let ((start 0))
> +  ;; 	    (while (setq start (string-match (car l) text start))
> +  ;; 	      (let ((new-quote (concat (match-string 1 text) (cdr l))))
> +  ;; 		(setq text (replace-match new-quote  t t text))))))
> +  ;; 	(cdr (or (assoc (plist-get info :language) org-e-latex-quotes)
> +  ;; 		 ;; Falls back on English.
> +  ;; 		 (assoc "en" org-e-latex-quotes))))
> +  ;; text)

Use directly `org-e-latex-quote-replacements' in code then.

> +;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;
> +;; Probably a defcustom eventually.
> +
> +;; Each element of this consists of: car=language code, cdr=list of
> +;; double-quote-open-regexp, double-quote-close-regexp,
> +;; single-quote-open-regexp, single-quote-close-regexp, &optional
> +;; single-apostrophe regexp?
> +;; Just about all will be the same anyway, so mostly language DEFAULT.
> +
> +;; For testing purposes, poorly-designed at first.
> +(defvar org-export-quotes-regexps
> +  '((DEFAULT 
> +      "\\(?:\\s-\\|[[(]\\|^\\)\\(\"\\)\\w" 
> +      "\\(?:\\S-\\)\\(\"\\)\\s-" 
> +      "\\(?:\\s-\\|(\\|^\\)\\('\\)\\w"
> +      "\\w\\('\\)\\(?:\\s-\\|\\s.\\|$\\)"
> +      "\\w\\('\\)\\w")))

I'm not sure this variable can be used for both the buffer and the
export engine. Export back-ends will only see chunks of the paragraph.

For example, in the following text,

  He crossed the Rubicon and said: "/Alea jacta est./"

Plain text translators will see three strings:

  1. "He crossed the Rubicon and said: \""
  2. "Alea jacta est."
  3. "\""

In case 1, you have an opening quote with nothing after it. In case 3,
you have a closing quote with nothing before or after it. Plain regexps
can't help here.

The only solution in can think of is to do quote substitutions in
paragraphs within the parse tree before they reach the translators (i.e.
with `org-export-filter-parse-tree-functions').

That's the only way to know if "\"" is an opening or a closing quote,
for example. The current approach won't work.

> +;; Generic function, usable by exporters, but they can define their own
> +;; instead.
> +(defun org-export-quotation-marks (text info replacements)
> +  "Export quotation marks depending on language conventions.
> +TEXT is a string containing quotation marks to be replaced.  INFO
> +is a plist used as a communication channel."

Please document each argument in the docstring.

> +  (let* ((start 0)
> +	 (regexps 
> +	  (cdr 
> +	   (or 
> +	    (assoc (plist-get info :language)
> +		   org-export-quotes-regexps)
> +	    (assoc 'DEFAULT org-export-quotes-regexps))))

Use `assq' instead of `assoc' in the second case.

> +	 (subs (cdr (or (assoc (plist-get info :language)
> +			       replacements)
> +			(assoc "en" replacements))))
> +	 (quotes (pairlis regexps subs)))
> +    (mapc (lambda (p)
> +	    (let ((re (car p))
> +		  (su (cdr p)))
> +	      (while (setq start (string-match re text start))
> +		(setq text (replace-match su t t text 1)))))

Use `replace-regexp-in-string' instead.

  (replace-regexp-in-string (car p) (cdr p) text t t 1)

> +	  quotes))
> +  text)


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* (no subject)
@ 2012-08-24 16:21 Feiming Chen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Feiming Chen @ 2012-08-24 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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 Sincerely, 
Feiming Chen

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* (no subject)
@ 2012-09-29  7:30 Neuwirth Erich
  2012-09-29  7:39 ` Bastien
  2012-09-29  9:52 ` Achim Gratz
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Neuwirth Erich @ 2012-09-29  7:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

I just did make up2
And on OSX 10.8.2 and Emacs 24.2 I get:

Ran 208 tests, 207 results as expected, 1 unexpected (2012-09-29 09:27:47+0200)
6 expected failures

1 unexpected results:
   FAILED  test-ob/org-babel-remove-result--results-org

make[1]: *** [test-dirty] Error 1
make: *** [up2] Error 2

Perhaps this is useful information

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-09-29  7:30 Neuwirth Erich
@ 2012-09-29  7:39 ` Bastien
  2012-09-29  8:09   ` Achim Gratz
  2012-09-29  9:52 ` Achim Gratz
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-09-29  7:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Neuwirth Erich; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

Neuwirth Erich <erich.neuwirth@univie.ac.at> writes:

> 1 unexpected results:
>    FAILED  test-ob/org-babel-remove-result--results-org

Fixed, thanks.

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-09-29  7:39 ` Bastien
@ 2012-09-29  8:09   ` Achim Gratz
  2012-09-29  9:12     ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Achim Gratz @ 2012-09-29  8:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Bastien writes:
>> 1 unexpected results:
>>    FAILED  test-ob/org-babel-remove-result--results-org
>
> Fixed, thanks.

There are some tests that are supposed to have whitespace errors, based
on the comments in the file, but you've removed them along with all the
others.  I've reverted that hunk of the commit.


Regards,
Achim.
-- 
+<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+

SD adaptations for Waldorf Q V3.00R3 and Q+ V3.54R2:
http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-09-29  8:09   ` Achim Gratz
@ 2012-09-29  9:12     ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-09-29  9:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Achim Gratz; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> writes:

> There are some tests that are supposed to have whitespace errors, based
> on the comments in the file, but you've removed them along with all the
> others.  I've reverted that hunk of the commit.

Thanks,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-09-29  7:30 Neuwirth Erich
  2012-09-29  7:39 ` Bastien
@ 2012-09-29  9:52 ` Achim Gratz
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Achim Gratz @ 2012-09-29  9:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Neuwirth Erich writes:
> Perhaps this is useful information

It would be more useful if the Org version you are trying to make was
included, but since it's probably not installed in lispdir yet, your
installed emacs would show a different version.  So I've implemented a
new target `config-version´ to make this easy to produce with make…

org-mode> make config-version
========= Org version
make:  Org-mode version 7.9.1 (release_7.9.1-442-g9ab8cb => /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/org)



Regards,
Achim.
-- 
+<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+

SD adaptation for Waldorf rackAttack V1.04R1:
http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada

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* (no subject)
@ 2012-11-07 18:50 Kevin Buchs
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Buchs @ 2012-11-07 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Org Mode

I would like to solve a problem I have: C-e (org-end-of-line) does not
move to the end of the line with long lines that are not headings. I
find myself wanting to get to the end of a long line often and have to
hit multiple C-e sequences to get there. I don't have the
org-special-ctrl-a/e set to non-nil. My line-move-visual value is the
default value of t, so I get the end-of-visual-line movement one
screen's worth. Before I start hacking, I thought I should be clear on
the design goals here. It seems as if the declaration of
line-move-visual says it is dealing with vertical motion, not
horizontal motion. I don't see any behavior elsewhere that uses the
interpretation that line-move-visual is for horizontal motion. Anyone
have thoughts on this subject?

BTW - I posted this back in May, but I neglected to keep the topic alive.

Kevin Buchs

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* (no subject)
@ 2012-11-11 15:36 Fabrice Popineau
  2012-11-11 23:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Fabrice Popineau @ 2012-11-11 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

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I just updated a few hours ago with the git current version and I now get:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (invalid-read-syntax "#")
  eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*> nil "c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache"
nil t)  ; Reading at buffer position 621
  load-with-code-conversion("c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache"
"c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache" nil nil)
  load("c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache" nil nil t)
  load-file("c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache")

Actually, the .cache file reads :

...
(puthash "c:/Home/Cours/CQP-ArTech/org/CQP-Artech-slides.org" '(:title
#("CQP-ArTech Slides" 0 17 (:parent (#("CQP-ArTech Slides" 0 17 (:parent
#3)))))) org-e-publish-cache)
...

I guess the #3 is the culprit. Any idea what went wrong?

Fabrice

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-11-11 15:36 Fabrice Popineau
@ 2012-11-11 23:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2012-11-12  7:40   ` Fabrice Popineau
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2012-11-11 23:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fabrice Popineau; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

Hello,

Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@gmail.com> writes:

> I just updated a few hours ago with the git current version and I now get:
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (invalid-read-syntax "#")
>   eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*> nil "c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache"
> nil t)  ; Reading at buffer position 621
>   load-with-code-conversion("c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache"
> "c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache" nil nil)
>   load("c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache" nil nil t)
>   load-file("c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache")
>
> Actually, the .cache file reads :
>
> ...
> (puthash "c:/Home/Cours/CQP-ArTech/org/CQP-Artech-slides.org" '(:title
> #("CQP-ArTech Slides" 0 17 (:parent (#("CQP-ArTech Slides" 0 17 (:parent
> #3)))))) org-e-publish-cache)
> ...
>
> I guess the #3 is the culprit. Any idea what went wrong?

To sum it up, I added :parent property to each string but org-e-publish
tries to store them in the cache, which is impossible since cache is
eventually written to a file.

I have pushed a fix for that problem. Is it correct now?

Thanks for submitting this.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* Re: (no subject)
  2012-11-11 23:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2012-11-12  7:40   ` Fabrice Popineau
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Fabrice Popineau @ 2012-11-12  7:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nicolas Goaziou; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org

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Seems to be ok on my side.

I wonder if my problem could have been triggered by the fact I had a
spurious file in the way of the (new) exporter: I had a foo.org file
exported to some other directory, but also a foo.html in the source
directory that had to be copied to the target directory by another
dependency of the project.

Thanks anyway for taking care of this.

Fabrice


2012/11/12 Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com>

> Hello,
>
> Fabrice Popineau <fabrice.popineau@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I just updated a few hours ago with the git current version and I now
> get:
> >
> > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (invalid-read-syntax "#")
> >   eval-buffer(#<buffer  *load*> nil
> "c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache"
> > nil t)  ; Reading at buffer position 621
> >   load-with-code-conversion("c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache"
> > "c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache" nil nil)
> >   load("c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache" nil nil t)
> >   load-file("c:/Home/.org-timestamps/CQP-org.cache")
> >
> > Actually, the .cache file reads :
> >
> > ...
> > (puthash "c:/Home/Cours/CQP-ArTech/org/CQP-Artech-slides.org" '(:title
> > #("CQP-ArTech Slides" 0 17 (:parent (#("CQP-ArTech Slides" 0 17 (:parent
> > #3)))))) org-e-publish-cache)
> > ...
> >
> > I guess the #3 is the culprit. Any idea what went wrong?
>
> To sum it up, I added :parent property to each string but org-e-publish
> tries to store them in the cache, which is impossible since cache is
> eventually written to a file.
>
> I have pushed a fix for that problem. Is it correct now?
>
> Thanks for submitting this.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
>

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@ 2013-01-15 19:26 Rick Frankel
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From: Rick Frankel @ 2013-01-15 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

From 8aca214f0aefe3d89162115b9d241766ae62c5c1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Rick Frankel <org@rickster.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:41:10 -0500
Subject: [PATCH] ob-tangle: Correctly process tangling of single source block

* lisp/ob-tangle.el
  (org-babel-tangle):
    - remove un-executed attempt to ask user for file-name if
      tangling a single block (`:tangle' always has a value)
    - change handling of block accumulation

  (org-babel-tangle-collect-block): new function to collect a single block

When attempting to tangle a single block, `org-babel-tangle' would use
`narrow-to-region', causing any header arguments not on the
"#+BEGIN_SRC" line to be excluded from the tangled file.
---
 lisp/ob-tangle.el | 166 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------------
 1 file changed, 90 insertions(+), 76 deletions(-)

diff --git a/lisp/ob-tangle.el b/lisp/ob-tangle.el
index 0db4335..725d3af 100644
--- a/lisp/ob-tangle.el
+++ b/lisp/ob-tangle.el
@@ -192,18 +192,16 @@ source blocks.  Optional argument LANG can be used to limit the
 exported source code blocks by language."
   (interactive "P")
   (run-hooks 'org-babel-pre-tangle-hook)
-  ;; possibly restrict the buffer to the current code block
   (save-restriction
-    (when only-this-block
-      (unless (org-babel-where-is-src-block-head)
-	(error "Point is not currently inside of a code block"))
-      (save-match-data
-	(unless (or (cdr (assoc :tangle (nth 2 (org-babel-get-src-block-info))))
-		    target-file)
-	  (setq target-file
-		(read-from-minibuffer "Tangle to: " (buffer-file-name)))))
-      (narrow-to-region (match-beginning 0) (match-end 0)))
     (save-excursion
+      ;; check if tangle restricted to the current code block and
+      ;; move to beginning of block so begin_src line not
+      ;; included in commments
+      (when only-this-block
+	(let ((head (org-babel-where-is-src-block-head)))
+	  (if head
+	      (goto-char head)
+	    (error "Point is not currently inside of a code block"))))
       (let ((block-counter 0)
 	    (org-babel-default-header-args
 	     (if target-file
@@ -270,7 +268,9 @@ exported source code blocks by language."
 		      (setq block-counter (+ 1 block-counter))
 		      (add-to-list 'path-collector file-name)))))
 	      specs)))
-	 (org-babel-tangle-collect-blocks lang))
+	 (if only-this-block
+	     (org-babel-tangle-collect-block 1 t)
+	   (org-babel-tangle-collect-blocks lang)))
 	(message "Tangled %d code block%s from %s" block-counter
 		 (if (= block-counter 1) "" "s")
 		 (file-name-nondirectory
@@ -353,7 +353,7 @@ Return an association list of source-code block specifications of
 the form used by `org-babel-spec-to-string' grouped by language.
 Optional argument LANG can be used to limit the collected source
 code blocks by language."
-  (let ((block-counter 1) (current-heading "") blocks)
+  (let ((block-counter 1) (current-heading "") blocks by-lang)
     (org-babel-map-src-blocks (buffer-file-name)
       ((lambda (new-heading)
 	 (if (not (string= new-heading current-heading))
@@ -366,73 +366,18 @@ code blocks by language."
 				     (or (nth 4 (org-heading-components))
 					 "(dummy for heading without text)")
 				   (error (buffer-file-name)))))
-      (let* ((start-line (save-restriction (widen)
-					   (+ 1 (line-number-at-pos (point)))))
-	     (file (buffer-file-name))
-	     (info (org-babel-get-src-block-info 'light))
+      (let* ((info (org-babel-get-src-block-info 'light))
 	     (src-lang (nth 0 info)))
         (unless (string= (cdr (assoc :tangle (nth 2 info))) "no")
           (unless (and language (not (string= language src-lang)))
-	    (let* ((info (org-babel-get-src-block-info))
-		   (params (nth 2 info))
-		   (link ((lambda (link)
-			    (and (string-match org-bracket-link-regexp link)
-				 (match-string 1 link)))
-			  (org-no-properties
-			   (org-store-link nil))))
-		   (source-name
-		    (intern (or (nth 4 info)
-				(format "%s:%d"
-					current-heading block-counter))))
-		   (expand-cmd
-		    (intern (concat "org-babel-expand-body:" src-lang)))
-		   (assignments-cmd
-		    (intern (concat "org-babel-variable-assignments:" src-lang)))
-		   (body
-		    ((lambda (body) ;; run the tangle-body-hook
-		       (with-temp-buffer
-			 (insert body)
-			 (run-hooks 'org-babel-tangle-body-hook)
-			 (buffer-string)))
-		     ((lambda (body) ;; expand the body in language specific manner
-			(if (assoc :no-expand params)
-			    body
-			  (if (fboundp expand-cmd)
-			      (funcall expand-cmd body params)
-			    (org-babel-expand-body:generic
-			     body params
-			     (and (fboundp assignments-cmd)
-				  (funcall assignments-cmd params))))))
-		      (if (org-babel-noweb-p params :tangle)
-			  (org-babel-expand-noweb-references info)
-			(nth 1 info)))))
-		   (comment
-		    (when (or (string= "both" (cdr (assoc :comments params)))
-			      (string= "org" (cdr (assoc :comments params))))
-		      ;; from the previous heading or code-block end
-		      (funcall
-		       org-babel-process-comment-text
-		       (buffer-substring
-			(max (condition-case nil
-				 (save-excursion
-				   (org-back-to-heading t)  ; sets match data
-				   (match-end 0))
-			       (error (point-min)))
-			     (save-excursion
-			       (if (re-search-backward
-				    org-babel-src-block-regexp nil t)
-				   (match-end 0)
-				 (point-min))))
-			(point)))))
-		   by-lang)
-	      ;; add the spec for this block to blocks under it's language
-	      (setq by-lang (cdr (assoc src-lang blocks)))
-	      (setq blocks (delq (assoc src-lang blocks) blocks))
-	      (setq blocks (cons
-			    (cons src-lang
-				  (cons (list start-line file link
-					      source-name params body comment)
-					by-lang)) blocks)))))))
+	    ;; add the spec for this block to blocks under it's language
+	    (setq by-lang (cdr (assoc src-lang blocks)))
+	    (setq blocks (delq (assoc src-lang blocks) blocks))
+	    (setq blocks (cons
+			  (cons src-lang
+				(cons
+				 (org-babel-tangle-collect-block
+				  block-counter) by-lang)) blocks))))))
     ;; ensure blocks in the correct order
     (setq blocks
           (mapcar
@@ -440,6 +385,75 @@ code blocks by language."
 	   blocks))
     blocks))
 
+(defun org-babel-tangle-collect-block
+  (block-counter &optional only-this-block)
+  "Collect tangled source for current block.
+Returns list of block attributes needed by 
+`org-babel-tangle-collect-blocks'. If ONLY-THIS-BLOCK is set,
+then return full association list in format needed for
+`org-babel-tangle' directly."
+  (let* ((info (org-babel-get-src-block-info))
+	 (start-line
+	  (save-restriction (widen)
+			    (+ 1 (line-number-at-pos (point)))))
+	 (file (buffer-file-name))
+	 (src-lang (nth 0 info))
+	 (params (nth 2 info))
+	 (link ((lambda (link)
+		  (and (string-match org-bracket-link-regexp link)
+		       (match-string 1 link)))
+		(org-no-properties
+		 (org-store-link nil))))
+	 (source-name
+	  (intern (or (nth 4 info)
+		      (format "%s:%d" (nth 4 (org-heading-components))
+			      block-counter))))
+	 (expand-cmd
+	  (intern (concat "org-babel-expand-body:" src-lang)))
+	 (assignments-cmd
+	  (intern (concat "org-babel-variable-assignments:" src-lang)))
+	 (body
+	  ((lambda (body) ;; run the tangle-body-hook
+	     (with-temp-buffer
+	       (insert body)
+	       (run-hooks 'org-babel-tangle-body-hook)
+	       (buffer-string)))
+	   ((lambda (body) ;; expand the body in language specific manner
+	      (if (assoc :no-expand params)
+		  body
+		(if (fboundp expand-cmd)
+		    (funcall expand-cmd body params)
+		  (org-babel-expand-body:generic
+		   body params
+		   (and (fboundp assignments-cmd)
+			(funcall assignments-cmd params))))))
+	    (if (org-babel-noweb-p params :tangle)
+		(org-babel-expand-noweb-references info)
+	      (nth 1 info)))))
+	 (comment
+	  (when (or (string= "both" (cdr (assoc :comments params)))
+		    (string= "org" (cdr (assoc :comments params))))
+	    ;; from the previous heading or code-block end
+	    (funcall
+	     org-babel-process-comment-text
+	     (buffer-substring
+	      (max (condition-case nil
+		       (save-excursion
+			 (org-back-to-heading t)  ; sets match data
+			 (match-end 0))
+		     (error (point-min)))
+		   (save-excursion
+		     (if (re-search-backward
+			  org-babel-src-block-regexp nil t)
+			 (match-end 0)
+		       (point-min))))
+	      (point)))))
+	 (result
+	  (list start-line file link source-name params body comment)))
+    (if only-this-block
+	(list (cons src-lang (list result)))
+      result)))
+
 (defun org-babel-tangle-comment-links ( &optional info)
   "Return a list of begin and end link comments for the code block at point."
   (let* ((start-line (org-babel-where-is-src-block-head))
-- 
1.8.0

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* (no subject)
@ 2013-01-24 12:11 Herbert Sitz
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From: Herbert Sitz @ 2013-01-24 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: noel, nonka1717, nonaadams, PDR, molver, orderhelp, emacs-orgmode,
	pariss, patricks

http://hickorystreetlounge.com/wp-content/plugins/zajvtixgeoo/yahool321.php

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@ 2013-01-29  9:43 Martin Beck
  2013-01-30 12:12 ` Bernt Hansen
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  To: emacs orgmode-mailinglist

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-01-29  9:43 Martin Beck
@ 2013-01-30 12:12 ` Bernt Hansen
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From: Bernt Hansen @ 2013-01-30 12:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Martin Beck; +Cc: emacs orgmode-mailinglist

"Martin Beck" <elwood151@web.de> writes:

> I'm trying to create a custom agenda setup for my org-mode and I wonder how I can sort the agenda-items by date (Scheduled
> or deadline): newest first.
>
> I only found time-up / time-down in the parameters, but that does not seem to do what I need.
>
> Another important point would be how to handle items with no scheduled/date or deadline.. they should be placed at the end
> of the list.
>
> I've been searching some time but did not find a solution. :-(

Hi Martin,

I sort my daily agenda items specifically using a bunch of complicated
sorting functions.  They are all documented here:

http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#AgendaViewTweaks

HTH,
Bernt

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* (no subject)
@ 2013-03-03  0:55 Vikas Rawal
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From: Vikas Rawal @ 2013-03-03  0:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

> 
> You may be using an outdated version (maint branch?). Otherwise, latex
> back-end may not be loaded, but it is by default (see
> `org-export-backends').

I am using 7.9.3f updated using orgmode elpa repository. Is that a
problem?

Vikas

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 10:39 ` was: " Andreas Röhler
@ 2013-03-08 10:46   ` Bastien
  2013-03-08 10:59     ` Andreas Röhler
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2013-03-08 10:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:

> BTW does that mean, stars are hard-coded in a way, they can't be
> replaced by another car?

Yes, this is the case.

> If yes, what about to keep the core more abstract?

This is a hard problem and I personally don't think it's worth
tackling it.  But I don't want to decourage anyone, of course :)

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 10:46   ` (no subject) Bastien
@ 2013-03-08 10:59     ` Andreas Röhler
  2013-03-08 11:05       ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Röhler @ 2013-03-08 10:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Am 08.03.2013 11:46, schrieb Bastien:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:
>
>> BTW does that mean, stars are hard-coded in a way, they can't be
>> replaced by another car?
>
> Yes, this is the case.
>
>> If yes, what about to keep the core more abstract?
>
> This is a hard problem

Hi Bastien,

can it be more difficult than related use of comment-start?

[ ... ]

Cheers,

Andreas

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 10:59     ` Andreas Röhler
@ 2013-03-08 11:05       ` Bastien
  2013-03-08 11:18         ` Andreas Röhler
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From: Bastien @ 2013-03-08 11:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:

> can it be more difficult than related use of comment-start?

Yes -- check this FAQ: 
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#sec-8-12

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 11:05       ` Bastien
@ 2013-03-08 11:18         ` Andreas Röhler
  2013-03-08 11:23           ` Bastien
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From: Andreas Röhler @ 2013-03-08 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Am 08.03.2013 12:05, schrieb Bastien:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:
>
>> can it be more difficult than related use of comment-start?
>
> Yes -- check this FAQ:
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html#sec-8-12
>
> HTH,
>

Thanks, still non-believing :)

(defcustom outline-regexp "[*\^L]+"
   "Regular expression to match the beginning of a heading.
Any line whose beginning matches this regexp is considered to start a heading.
Note that Outline mode only checks this regexp at the start of a line,
so the regexp need not (and usually does not) start with `^'.
The recommended way to set this is with a Local Variables: list
in the file it applies to.  See also `outline-heading-end-regexp'."
   :type 'regexp
   :group 'outlines)

IMHO remains to make that buffer-local and use outline-regexp from inside org-mode.

Andreas

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 11:18         ` Andreas Röhler
@ 2013-03-08 11:23           ` Bastien
  2013-03-08 13:00             ` Andreas Röhler
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From: Bastien @ 2013-03-08 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:

> IMHO remains to make that buffer-local and use outline-regexp from
> inside org-mode.

Have a go and let us know :)

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 11:23           ` Bastien
@ 2013-03-08 13:00             ` Andreas Röhler
  2013-03-08 13:12               ` Bastien
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From: Andreas Röhler @ 2013-03-08 13:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

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Am 08.03.2013 12:23, schrieb Bastien:
> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:
>
>> IMHO remains to make that buffer-local and use outline-regexp from
>> inside org-mode.
>
> Have a go and let us know :)
>

That should work already - to start with.

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commit 8cf6bc6faeb2a3b3fec0780e56a04ef0e13c3c62
Author: Andreas Roehler <andreas.roehler@online.de>
Date:   Fri Mar 8 13:58:13 2013 +0100

    Enable different heading chars, not just `*'
    
    Use variable `org-heading-char', customizable later on,
    instead of hard-coded `*'
    
    TINYCHANGE

diff --git a/lisp/org.el b/lisp/org.el
index 811506a..2db63ae 100644
--- a/lisp/org.el
+++ b/lisp/org.el
@@ -90,13 +90,17 @@
 ;; `org-outline-regexp'.  The only function still directly relying on
 ;; `outline-regexp' is `org-overview' so that `org-cycle' can do its
 ;; job when `orgstruct-mode' is active.
+(defvar org-heading-char "*")
+
 (defvar org-outline-regexp "\\*+ "
   "Regexp to match Org headlines.")
+(setq org-outline-regexp (concat (regexp-quote org-heading-char) "+ "))
 
 (defvar org-outline-regexp-bol "^\\*+ "
   "Regexp to match Org headlines.
 This is similar to `org-outline-regexp' but additionally makes
 sure that we are at the beginning of the line.")
+(setq org-outline-regexp-bol (concat "^" (regexp-quote org-heading-char) "+ "))
 
 (defvar org-heading-regexp "^\\(\\*+\\)\\(?: +\\(.*?\\)\\)?[ \t]*$"
   "Matches a headline, putting stars and text into groups.

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 13:00             ` Andreas Röhler
@ 2013-03-08 13:12               ` Bastien
  2013-03-08 15:22                 ` Andreas Röhler
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2013-03-08 13:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:

> Am 08.03.2013 12:23, schrieb Bastien:
>> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:
>>
>>> IMHO remains to make that buffer-local and use outline-regexp from
>>> inside org-mode.
>>
>> Have a go and let us know :)
>
> That should work already - to start with.

Sorry, I should not let you go into that direction without a warning
that I won't commit anything related to this myself.

Btw, did you read the thread as the FAQ suggests?

One reason why the stars are hardcoded (like the comment characters
and other syntactic elements) is that Org files are used outside Emacs
and allowing users to use something else here is calling for trouble.

So -- just to let you know that it's fine playing with the idea and
providing proof-of-concept patches, but there are many reasons why
this cannot be considered.

Also, we are trying to focus on 8.0 right now... help welcome!

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 13:12               ` Bastien
@ 2013-03-08 15:22                 ` Andreas Röhler
  2013-03-08 15:40                   ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Andreas Röhler @ 2013-03-08 15:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Am 08.03.2013 14:12, schrieb Bastien:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:
>
>> Am 08.03.2013 12:23, schrieb Bastien:
>>> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:
>>>
>>>> IMHO remains to make that buffer-local and use outline-regexp from
>>>> inside org-mode.
>>>
>>> Have a go and let us know :)
>>
>> That should work already - to start with.
>
> Sorry, I should not let you go into that direction without a warning
> that I won't commit anything related to this myself.
>

Hi Bastien,

don't worry, didn't expect that for now or soon.


> Btw, did you read the thread as the FAQ suggests?

Nothing different resp. new so far. Let's stress that solution in mind also would be quite simple.
See the example patch.
No-one would be compelled to change the default BTW, it would just open the possibility.

>
> One reason why the stars are hardcoded (like the comment characters
> and other syntactic elements) is that Org files are used outside Emacs
> and allowing users to use something else here is calling for trouble.
>

Hmm, AFAIS trouble might occur only if someone tries to load a non-default --i.e. not-starred--
org-file while the default is active.

But even then it's quite easy to write a guess, which might start if org-mode didn't encounter the
stars where expected.

[ ... ]

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 15:22                 ` Andreas Röhler
@ 2013-03-08 15:40                   ` Bastien
  2013-03-08 20:39                     ` T.F. Torrey
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2013-03-08 15:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Andreas Röhler; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Andreas,

Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:

> Hmm, AFAIS trouble might occur only if someone tries to load a
> non-default --i.e. not-starred-- org-file while the default is
> active.

... or if someone shares a file online using non-star character
as the prefix for headlines: this file won't be processed by
Org tools like org-ruby and the like.

> But even then it's quite easy to write a guess, which might start if
> org-mode didn't encounter the stars where expected.

Org files are not just for Emacs, that's were the problem lies...

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 15:40                   ` Bastien
@ 2013-03-08 20:39                     ` T.F. Torrey
  2013-03-08 21:19                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2013-03-09 14:09                       ` Bastien
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From: T.F. Torrey @ 2013-03-08 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:

> Hi Andreas,
>
> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:
>
>> Hmm, AFAIS trouble might occur only if someone tries to load a
>> non-default --i.e. not-starred-- org-file while the default is
>> active.
>
> ... or if someone shares a file online using non-star character
> as the prefix for headlines: this file won't be processed by
> Org tools like org-ruby and the like.
>
>> But even then it's quite easy to write a guess, which might start if
>> org-mode didn't encounter the stars where expected.
>
> Org files are not just for Emacs, that's were the problem lies...

I don't understand this heavy-handed approach.

Plain text is great because I can do whatever I want.  What I come up
with might not work correctly in other tools (or anything at all), but I
have the freedom to do interesting things, and to have my files look
just the way I want them to.

Emacs is great because it allows me the freedom of near-infinite
customization.  It has sensible defaults, but it allows me to break
things however I want.

Org, on the other hand, seems to be moving away from that in many ways.
Headlines must start with stars because I might someday post something
on the web and it wouldn't work for someone else?  Other tools might not
recognize my file correctly?  A developer of some other tool might
someday have a problem?  These are not good reasons for limiting what I
can do with my own Org files.

I don't need or want supervision in how I create my files.  I want
freedom.  If I wanted supervision, I wouldn't be using Emacs.  Have you
seen the lisp posted to the web?  Somehow, Emacs and I survive that.

Org started as a great tool that let me do cool things with my text
files.  I don't want to see it change to a rigid format for me to force
my files into, where my only options are conform or leave.

Org should err on the side of user freedom.

IMHO,
Terry
-- 
T.F. Torrey

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 20:39                     ` T.F. Torrey
@ 2013-03-08 21:19                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2013-03-08 21:57                         ` Suvayu Ali
  2013-03-09 14:09                       ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2013-03-08 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: T.F. Torrey; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode

Hello,

tftorrey@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:

> Hello,
>
> Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:
>
>> Hi Andreas,
>>
>> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:
>>
>>> Hmm, AFAIS trouble might occur only if someone tries to load a
>>> non-default --i.e. not-starred-- org-file while the default is
>>> active.
>>
>> ... or if someone shares a file online using non-star character
>> as the prefix for headlines: this file won't be processed by
>> Org tools like org-ruby and the like.
>>
>>> But even then it's quite easy to write a guess, which might start if
>>> org-mode didn't encounter the stars where expected.
>>
>> Org files are not just for Emacs, that's were the problem lies...
>
> I don't understand this heavy-handed approach.
>
> Plain text is great because I can do whatever I want.  What I come up
> with might not work correctly in other tools (or anything at all), but I
> have the freedom to do interesting things, and to have my files look
> just the way I want them to.
>
> Emacs is great because it allows me the freedom of near-infinite
> customization.  It has sensible defaults, but it allows me to break
> things however I want.
>
> Org, on the other hand, seems to be moving away from that in many ways.
> Headlines must start with stars because I might someday post something
> on the web and it wouldn't work for someone else?  Other tools might not
> recognize my file correctly?  A developer of some other tool might
> someday have a problem?  These are not good reasons for limiting what I
> can do with my own Org files.
>
> I don't need or want supervision in how I create my files.  I want
> freedom.  If I wanted supervision, I wouldn't be using Emacs.  Have you
> seen the lisp posted to the web?  Somehow, Emacs and I survive that.
>
> Org started as a great tool that let me do cool things with my text
> files.  I don't want to see it change to a rigid format for me to force
> my files into, where my only options are conform or leave.
>

I disagree.

Org is a plain text format. Like any format, plain-text or not, it needs
a proper definition. At least, it helps users and developers to agree on
what they are talking about. As for myself, I cannot play any game if
I don't know its rules.

My point of view is the following: Org (as a format) definition
shouldn't depend on Emacs. It should be totally parseable by any
language (which is not the case actually, since syntax relies on
variables defined in Emacs). IOW, we should work to make it a real
plain-text markup format.

> Org should err on the side of user freedom.

You still have the freedom to choose what you write down in Org format.
You have the freedom use, or to not use Org. You have the freedom to
modify Org code to bend it to your will. IMO, freedom is totally
unrelated to this subject.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 21:19                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2013-03-08 21:57                         ` Suvayu Ali
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Suvayu Ali @ 2013-03-08 21:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hi,

On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 10:19:56PM +0100, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> tftorrey@tftorrey.com (T.F. Torrey) writes:
> >
> > Org, on the other hand, seems to be moving away from that in many ways.
> > Headlines must start with stars because I might someday post something
> > on the web and it wouldn't work for someone else?  Other tools might not
> > recognize my file correctly?  A developer of some other tool might
> > someday have a problem?  These are not good reasons for limiting what I
> > can do with my own Org files.

[...]

> My point of view is the following: Org (as a format) definition
> shouldn't depend on Emacs. It should be totally parseable by any
> language (which is not the case actually, since syntax relies on
> variables defined in Emacs). IOW, we should work to make it a real
> plain-text markup format.

This discussion comes up again and again over the years.  Every time the
conclusion has been, there are many who want to use other characters
instead of a star but the rational is always cosmetic.  And in the end
people end up agreeing it is not worth the pain.

To give you an example of breakage, after long whining github started
supporting org file formatting for READMEs via org-ruby (even source
blocks I think!).  Do you expect we can have similar support if
something as fundamental as the headline is not well defined?  Other
possible breakages could be in org-merge-driver, VimOrganizer, org-sync,
some of the collaborative editing projects that have been spawning, and
the list goes on ...

FWIW, assuming that the rational behind this feature request is
cosmetic, there was a proposal to implement this as overlays.  So the
file still uses *-s but a user can customise how they are displayed.  I
think this addresses almost all requests in this category (majority
being "I want really cool UTF characters instead of boring old
asterisk").  If someone is interested in implementing this, I'm pretty
sure the maintainers would give that a serious consideration for
inclusion.  Changing the file format on the other hand is a no go
amongst many of the users (myself included) and developers alike.

Hope my 2¢ shed some light on the implications of a change like this.

Cheers,

-- 
Suvayu

Open source is the future. It sets us free.

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-08 20:39                     ` T.F. Torrey
  2013-03-08 21:19                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2013-03-09 14:09                       ` Bastien
  2013-03-10 22:40                         ` T.F. Torrey
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2013-03-09 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: T.F. Torrey; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Terry,

I hear you.  I completely agree that Org should not be less flexible
than it has been so far.  At least not for very good reasons, shared
by both the developers and the users.  IOW: ease of maintainance and
code consistency should not let us introduce rigidity for the users.

Let's focus on the regressions and let's try to fix the ones that we
can fix.

As discussions have shown so far, Nicolas holds the keys when it comes
to honoring Org's consistency regarding its syntax -- the document he
wrote will help us all to speak about the same syntax and rules.  But
as you may have felt, I'm more on the "user conveniency" side, even if
we need to sacrifice some consistency.  There is a balance here, and I
hope we keep a good one.

So as I said: let's focus on what you perceive as regressions wrt what
Org allows.

The subject of this thread does not fall in this category: headlines
have always been starting with stars, there is no regression here.  On
the contrary: a few years ago, we had no answer to this FAQ, now we
can help users with several solution when the problem is aesthetic.

Finally, I agree with Suvayu that the problem *is* mostly aesthetic,
so the solutions we provide are enough (i.e., the FAQ, org-bullets.el
in contrib/.)  The question is rather whether we should have an Org
option in core to allow users to tweak the appearance of the stars:
my answer here is "no", because I don't see why users would stop here.
Once we offer such an option for headlines, why not for comments and
other characters with a syntactic role?  (I replied a question on
stackoverflow on how to use "%" instead of "#" for comments...)

Anyway -- Org still stands on the side of users' freedom, let's
fix the real regressions.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-03-09 14:09                       ` Bastien
@ 2013-03-10 22:40                         ` T.F. Torrey
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: T.F. Torrey @ 2013-03-10 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. -- T.

Bastien <bzg@altern.org> writes:

> Hi Terry,
>
> I hear you.  I completely agree that Org should not be less flexible
> than it has been so far.  At least not for very good reasons, shared
> by both the developers and the users.  IOW: ease of maintainance and
> code consistency should not let us introduce rigidity for the users.
>
> Let's focus on the regressions and let's try to fix the ones that we
> can fix.
>
> As discussions have shown so far, Nicolas holds the keys when it comes
> to honoring Org's consistency regarding its syntax -- the document he
> wrote will help us all to speak about the same syntax and rules.  But
> as you may have felt, I'm more on the "user conveniency" side, even if
> we need to sacrifice some consistency.  There is a balance here, and I
> hope we keep a good one.
>
> So as I said: let's focus on what you perceive as regressions wrt what
> Org allows.
>
> The subject of this thread does not fall in this category: headlines
> have always been starting with stars, there is no regression here.  On
> the contrary: a few years ago, we had no answer to this FAQ, now we
> can help users with several solution when the problem is aesthetic.
>
> Finally, I agree with Suvayu that the problem *is* mostly aesthetic,
> so the solutions we provide are enough (i.e., the FAQ, org-bullets.el
> in contrib/.)  The question is rather whether we should have an Org
> option in core to allow users to tweak the appearance of the stars:
> my answer here is "no", because I don't see why users would stop here.
> Once we offer such an option for headlines, why not for comments and
> other characters with a syntactic role?  (I replied a question on
> stackoverflow on how to use "%" instead of "#" for comments...)
>
> Anyway -- Org still stands on the side of users' freedom, let's
> fix the real regressions.
>
> Thanks!

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-10-11 20:35 ` Samuel Wales
@ 2013-10-14  8:46   ` Martin Beck
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Martin Beck @ 2013-10-14  8:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Samuel Wales <samologist <at> gmail.com> writes:

> (setq org-agenda-inactive-leader "Inactive:  ")
> (setq org-agenda-include-inactive-timestamps t)
> 
> Custom command:
> 
>           ("ip" "past 7d"
>            ;; faster than tags
>            agenda ""
>            ((org-agenda-start-day "-7d")
>             (org-agenda-span 7)
>             (org-agenda-repeating-timestamp-show-all nil)
>             ;; %s is only for agenda views
>             ;; (org-agenda-prefix-format "%s")
>             ;; maybe not make much difference ka
>             ;; (org-agenda-use-tag-inheritance nil)
>             ))
> 
> ===
> 
> Samuel
> 

great - thanks a lot. I'll test that for some time, but it seems to do what
I need.
Just the list created is very long.

Would it be possible to limit it to inactive timestamps only?

Martin

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* (no subject)
@ 2013-11-06  6:13 Cecil Westerhof
  2013-11-06  8:32 ` Bastien
  2013-11-06  8:42 ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Cecil Westerhof @ 2013-11-06  6:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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At the moment I get something like this:
* Hours Today
#+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope subtree
Clock summary at [2013-11-04 Mon 15:53]

| Headline                      | Time   |      |
|-------------------------------+--------+------|
| *Total time*                  | *6:35* |      |
|-------------------------------+--------+------|
| Hours Today                   | 6:35   |      |
| Workshop shell scripting      |        | 2:12 |
| Security Intake               |        | 2:39 |
| Internal Project              |        | 1:44 |
#+END:

*** Workshop shell scripting
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 13:49]--[2013-11-04 Mon 13:56] =>  0:07
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 11:03]--[2013-11-04 Mon 11:55] =>  0:52
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 08:45]--[2013-11-04 Mon 09:58] =>  1:13
*** Security Intake
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 15:05]--[2013-11-04 Mon 15:45] =>  0:40
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 13:56]--[2013-11-04 Mon 14:01] =>  0:05
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 11:55]--[2013-11-04 Mon 13:49] =>  1:54
*** Internal Project
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 14:26]--[2013-11-04 Mon 15:05] =>  0:39
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 09:58]--[2013-11-04 Mon 11:03] =>  1:05


But because ‘Hours Today’ already is a summation, I would like to get
something like this:
* Hours Today
#+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope subtree
Clock summary at [2013-11-04 Mon 15:53]

|-------------------------------+--------+------|
| Hours Today                   | 6:35   |      |
|-------------------------------+--------+------|
| Workshop shell scripting      |        | 2:12 |
| Security Intake               |        | 2:39 |
| Internal Project              |        | 1:44 |
|-------------------------------+--------+------|
#+END:

*** Workshop shell scripting
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 13:49]--[2013-11-04 Mon 13:56] =>  0:07
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 11:03]--[2013-11-04 Mon 11:55] =>  0:52
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 08:45]--[2013-11-04 Mon 09:58] =>  1:13
*** Security Intake
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 15:05]--[2013-11-04 Mon 15:45] =>  0:40
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 13:56]--[2013-11-04 Mon 14:01] =>  0:05
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 11:55]--[2013-11-04 Mon 13:49] =>  1:54
*** Internal Project
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 14:26]--[2013-11-04 Mon 15:05] =>  0:39
    CLOCK: [2013-11-04 Mon 09:58]--[2013-11-04 Mon 11:03] =>  1:05


Is that possible?

-- 
Cecil Westerhof

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-11-06  6:13 Cecil Westerhof
@ 2013-11-06  8:32 ` Bastien
  2013-11-06  8:42 ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2013-11-06  8:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Cecil Westerhof; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> writes:

> Is that possible?



-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
  2013-11-06  6:13 Cecil Westerhof
  2013-11-06  8:32 ` Bastien
@ 2013-11-06  8:42 ` Bastien
       [not found]   ` <CAG-LmmDGaczy8pyeCTU6-YJ9oTBeEufqU6kC2PUb-U6ucexhZA@mail.gmail.com>
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2013-11-06  8:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Cecil Westerhof; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Cecil,

Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com> writes:

> Is that possible?

Well, I'd simply not use a "Hours spent" headline, which seems
redundant.

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
       [not found]       ` <CAG-LmmDFjqbuqfF1YJoeX6x_UdujK+0noeFcGSD15hs49Tbo=Q@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2013-11-06 18:38         ` Cecil Westerhof
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Cecil Westerhof @ 2013-11-06 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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2013/11/6 Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com>

> > I would like to keep things in the three "Hours Today". Is there a
>
>> > way to get something like:
>> > | Headline                      | Time   |
>> > |-------------------------------+--------|
>> > | *Total time*                  | *6:35* |
>> > |-------------------------------+--------|
>> > | Workshop shell scripting      |   2:12 |
>> > | Security Intake               |   2:39 |
>> > | Internal Project              |   1:44 |
>>
>> No.
>
>
> OK. I'll have to live with it, or make a workaround.
>

I solved it with:
    #+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 1 :scope nil :compact nil

And using narrow-region.

-- 
Cecil Westerhof

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* (no subject)
@ 2014-01-30  0:03 Ken Okada
  2014-01-30  0:15 ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Ken Okada @ 2014-01-30  0:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

I have a question. By default tables are centered in LaTeX export.
Sometimes I prefere to make it flush left or right. I thought this was
done with, for example,

#+ATTR_LATEX: :center nil
| a | b |
| 1 | 2 |

but it does not work in my environment. I'm using Org-mode version 7.8.11.
Could anyone point out what I mistook?

Sincerely,

Ken Okada

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* Re: (no subject)
  2014-01-30  0:03 Ken Okada
@ 2014-01-30  0:15 ` Bastien
  2014-01-30  0:22   ` John Hendy
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2014-01-30  0:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ken Okada; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hi Ken,

Ken Okada <keno.ss57@gmail.com> writes:

> I have a question. By default tables are centered in LaTeX export.
> Sometimes I prefere to make it flush left or right. I thought this was
> done with, for example,
>
> #+ATTR_LATEX: :center nil
> | a | b |
> | 1 | 2 |

The use of the :center parameter suggests you consulted a recent
version of the documentation, for Org >=8.0.

This is how it works for Org 8.0 and above:

#+ATTR_LATEX: :environment longtable :align l|lp{3cm}r|l
| a | b | c |
| 1 | 2 | 3 |

If you can, please upgrade.  Otherwise, someone needs to check the
documentation for Org 7.8.11... 

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
  2014-01-30  0:15 ` Bastien
@ 2014-01-30  0:22   ` John Hendy
  2014-01-30  7:17     ` Ken Okada
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: John Hendy @ 2014-01-30  0:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: Ken Okada, emacs-orgmode

On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> Ken Okada <keno.ss57@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I have a question. By default tables are centered in LaTeX export.
> > Sometimes I prefere to make it flush left or right. I thought this was
> > done with, for example,
> >
> > #+ATTR_LATEX: :center nil
> > | a | b |
> > | 1 | 2 |
>
> The use of the :center parameter suggests you consulted a recent
> version of the documentation, for Org >=8.0.
>
> This is how it works for Org 8.0 and above:
>
> #+ATTR_LATEX: :environment longtable :align l|lp{3cm}r|l
> | a | b | c |
> | 1 | 2 | 3 |
>
> If you can, please upgrade.  Otherwise, someone needs to check the
> documentation for Org 7.8.11...

Bastien beat me to it. Yes, the example syntax is for Org > 8.0.
Here's a version of the manual for v7.9:
- http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/org.html#Tables-in-LaTeX-export

I'm not sure what the proper argument is and can't test since I'm on
the current version of Org from git. You might take a look at the
placement= argument?

I'm having a tough time finding info on LaTeX with what makes a table
left or right aligned (not the columns, but the table itself). Most of
the hits are on how to *center* the table, which seems to suggest they
will be left aligned by default.

Sorry not to be of better help -- I think Bastien's suggestion to
upgrade to 8.0 is the right move. A lot of the mailing list has likely
made the move and thus it's hard to troubleshoot versions with the old
exporter syntax.


Best regards,
John

>
> HTH,
>
> --
>  Bastien
>

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* Re: (no subject)
  2014-01-30  0:22   ` John Hendy
@ 2014-01-30  7:17     ` Ken Okada
  2014-01-31  6:29       ` John Hendy
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Ken Okada @ 2014-01-30  7:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John Hendy; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode

John,

Thanks for advising.

On Org 7.8.11, placement=[l] and placement={l} parameter does not make
sense for tables as I tried.

I tried to install the current version. (There was a compile error
arising from the fact that BSD make is not GNU make, but it's no matter.)
A simple example for :center nil works well. For main org file I have to
do more work... not about centering.

However there seems not to be a parameter for flush right. At present
this is not a serious problem because :center nil works well, so we can
control directory with #+LATEX: \begin ... and \end . But it's tiresome.

I also feel something about the difference between the way to designate
centering and flush left/right. For HTML export we use :align parameter;
for LaTeX, :center parameter, which only allows us to control centering
or not. :align parameter is used for alignment of contents of table.
I'm confused. I guess there's a problem about backward compatibility or
something.

As you wrote there's a way to change default behaviour, but I feel
centering is confortable in the most typesetting *with Org*.
I think such searching result is due to the default behaviour of LaTeX.
File local option switching the behaviour would be useful, I think.

Best regards,
Ken Okada


At Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:22:38 -0600,
John Hendy wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > Ken Okada <keno.ss57@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > I have a question. By default tables are centered in LaTeX export.
> > > Sometimes I prefere to make it flush left or right. I thought this was
> > > done with, for example,
> > >
> > > #+ATTR_LATEX: :center nil
> > > | a | b |
> > > | 1 | 2 |
> >
> > The use of the :center parameter suggests you consulted a recent
> > version of the documentation, for Org >=8.0.
> >
> > This is how it works for Org 8.0 and above:
> >
> > #+ATTR_LATEX: :environment longtable :align l|lp{3cm}r|l
> > | a | b | c |
> > | 1 | 2 | 3 |
> >
> > If you can, please upgrade.  Otherwise, someone needs to check the
> > documentation for Org 7.8.11...
> 
> Bastien beat me to it. Yes, the example syntax is for Org > 8.0.
> Here's a version of the manual for v7.9:
> - http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/org.html#Tables-in-LaTeX-export
> 
> I'm not sure what the proper argument is and can't test since I'm on
> the current version of Org from git. You might take a look at the
> placement= argument?
> 
> I'm having a tough time finding info on LaTeX with what makes a table
> left or right aligned (not the columns, but the table itself). Most of
> the hits are on how to *center* the table, which seems to suggest they
> will be left aligned by default.
> 
> Sorry not to be of better help -- I think Bastien's suggestion to
> upgrade to 8.0 is the right move. A lot of the mailing list has likely
> made the move and thus it's hard to troubleshoot versions with the old
> exporter syntax.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> John
> 
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > --
> >  Bastien
> >

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* Re: (no subject)
  2014-01-30  7:17     ` Ken Okada
@ 2014-01-31  6:29       ` John Hendy
  2014-01-31  7:11         ` Nick Dokos
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: John Hendy @ 2014-01-31  6:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ken Okada; +Cc: Bastien, emacs-orgmode

On Thu, Jan 30, 2014 at 1:17 AM, Ken Okada <keno.ss57@gmail.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> Thanks for advising.
>
> On Org 7.8.11, placement=[l] and placement={l} parameter does not make
> sense for tables as I tried.
>
> I tried to install the current version. (There was a compile error
> arising from the fact that BSD make is not GNU make, but it's no matter.)
> A simple example for :center nil works well. For main org file I have to
> do more work... not about centering.

If you're still running into the make issue, this is how I manage
Org-git on Windows since I don't want to futz with cygwin or other
stuff:
- http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#compiling-org-without-make

> However there seems not to be a parameter for flush right. At present
> this is not a serious problem because :center nil works well, so we can
> control directory with #+LATEX: \begin ... and \end . But it's tiresome.

I was hunting around for the LaTeX parameter directly to specify the
table alignment and honestly wasn't finding anything specifically
related to tabular. My best hunting suggests that you need to put the
table inside of some sort of float environment and then specify the
placement that way, but I'm not sure if this plays nicely with any of
Org's built in table environments or not.

For example, I see there's a way to specify right alignment when
trying to wrap text around a figure:
- http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Floats,_Figures_and_Captions#Wrapping_text_around_figures

I was able to do this successfully with tabular instead of the example
they showed, but if you have no text to wrap, the table will just be
left-aligned.

\begin{wrapfigure}{r}{0.5\textwidth}
\begin{tabular}{lll}
a & b & c \\
\hline
word & word & word \\
word & word & word \\
\end{tabular}
\end{wrapfigure}

I also don't know how to next multiple environments with Org's
#+attr_latex options. I was able to place it inside wrap figure like
so:

#+attr_latex: :environment wrapfigure
| a    | b    | c    |
|------+------+------|
| word | word | word |
| word | word | word |

But one still needs a \begin/end{tabular} wrapped around the table. I
tried the obvious =:environment wrapfigure tabular=, but this creates
the literal set of words inside \begin{} vs. separate environments.

That's the best I can do for now...


Good luck!
John

>
> I also feel something about the difference between the way to designate
> centering and flush left/right. For HTML export we use :align parameter;
> for LaTeX, :center parameter, which only allows us to control centering
> or not. :align parameter is used for alignment of contents of table.
> I'm confused. I guess there's a problem about backward compatibility or
> something.
>
> As you wrote there's a way to change default behaviour, but I feel
> centering is confortable in the most typesetting *with Org*.
> I think such searching result is due to the default behaviour of LaTeX.
> File local option switching the behaviour would be useful, I think.
>
> Best regards,
> Ken Okada
>
>
> At Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:22:38 -0600,
> John Hendy wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Ken,
>> >
>> > Ken Okada <keno.ss57@gmail.com> writes:
>> >
>> > > I have a question. By default tables are centered in LaTeX export.
>> > > Sometimes I prefere to make it flush left or right. I thought this was
>> > > done with, for example,
>> > >
>> > > #+ATTR_LATEX: :center nil
>> > > | a | b |
>> > > | 1 | 2 |
>> >
>> > The use of the :center parameter suggests you consulted a recent
>> > version of the documentation, for Org >=8.0.
>> >
>> > This is how it works for Org 8.0 and above:
>> >
>> > #+ATTR_LATEX: :environment longtable :align l|lp{3cm}r|l
>> > | a | b | c |
>> > | 1 | 2 | 3 |
>> >
>> > If you can, please upgrade.  Otherwise, someone needs to check the
>> > documentation for Org 7.8.11...
>>
>> Bastien beat me to it. Yes, the example syntax is for Org > 8.0.
>> Here's a version of the manual for v7.9:
>> - http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/org.html#Tables-in-LaTeX-export
>>
>> I'm not sure what the proper argument is and can't test since I'm on
>> the current version of Org from git. You might take a look at the
>> placement= argument?
>>
>> I'm having a tough time finding info on LaTeX with what makes a table
>> left or right aligned (not the columns, but the table itself). Most of
>> the hits are on how to *center* the table, which seems to suggest they
>> will be left aligned by default.
>>
>> Sorry not to be of better help -- I think Bastien's suggestion to
>> upgrade to 8.0 is the right move. A lot of the mailing list has likely
>> made the move and thus it's hard to troubleshoot versions with the old
>> exporter syntax.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> John
>>
>> >
>> > HTH,
>> >
>> > --
>> >  Bastien
>> >

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* Re: (no subject)
  2014-01-31  6:29       ` John Hendy
@ 2014-01-31  7:11         ` Nick Dokos
  2014-02-03 22:13           ` Marcin Borkowski
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Nick Dokos @ 2014-01-31  7:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com> writes:

>>> I'm having a tough time finding info on LaTeX with what makes a table
>>> left or right aligned (not the columns, but the table itself). Most of
>>> the hits are on how to *center* the table, which seems to suggest they
>>> will be left aligned by default.
>>>

Does something like this help?

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
* Align tables on the page

Here is a table on the left side:

#+LATEX: \noindent
#+ATTR_LATEX: :center nil
| a | b | c |
|---+---+---|
| 1 | 2 | 3 |
| 4 | 5 | 6 |
#+LATEX: \hfill

The noindent just gets rid of the indentation of the first line of a paragraph
which in this case is the table. The hfill adds infinite stretch after the table,
so it pushes the table to the left.

Here is a centered table:

| a | b | c |
|---+---+---|
| 1 | 2 | 3 |
| 4 | 5 | 6 |

And here's a table on the right side:

#+LATEX: \hfill
#+ATTR_LATEX: :center nil
| a | b | c |
|---+---+---|
| 1 | 2 | 3 |
| 4 | 5 | 6 |

Here the hfill adds infinite stretch before the table, so it pushes the table to the right.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---


-- 
Nick

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* Re: (no subject)
  2014-01-31  7:11         ` Nick Dokos
@ 2014-02-03 22:13           ` Marcin Borkowski
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Marcin Borkowski @ 2014-02-03 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Dnia 2014-01-31, o godz. 02:11:21
Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> napisał(a):

> John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com> writes:
> 
> >>> I'm having a tough time finding info on LaTeX with what makes a
> >>> table left or right aligned (not the columns, but the table
> >>> itself). Most of the hits are on how to *center* the table, which
> >>> seems to suggest they will be left aligned by default.
> >>>
> 
> Does something like this help?

What about simply putting your tabular into \begin{flushright} ...
\end{flushright} (or -left, or center)?  You don't need floats for
that.  And if you /do/ need floats, just say \centering or \raggedright
or \raggedleft before your tabular.

"Left aligned by default" is connected with the boxes-and-glue model of
TeX page, and the way paragraph and page formatters work.  It is
described in detail in The TeXbook (in case you are curious).

HTH,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University

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* (no subject)
@ 2014-05-03  1:52 Ryan Moszynski
  2014-05-03  3:01 ` William Henney
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Ryan Moszynski @ 2014-05-03  1:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

If an org table cell contains the HMS 1@ 11' 37"

is there an easy way to get the total (time)seconds?

(1*3600 + 11*60 + 37 = 4297)


if $4 =  1@ 11' 37"

how do I get $8 = 4297?

thanks

ryan

-- 
He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes
wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. - Douglas
Adams

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* Re: (no subject)
  2014-05-03  1:52 Ryan Moszynski
@ 2014-05-03  3:01 ` William Henney
  2014-05-03  3:22   ` William Henney
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: William Henney @ 2014-05-03  3:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ryan Moszynski; +Cc: emacs-org

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Hi Ryan

Convert to degrees, then multiply by 3600:

| - | - | - | 1@ 11' 37" | - | - | - | 4297 |
#+TBLFM: $8=3600 deg($4); %d

Cheers

Will



On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Ryan Moszynski <ryan.moszynski@gmail.com>wrote:

> If an org table cell contains the HMS 1@ 11' 37"
>
> is there an easy way to get the total (time)seconds?
>
> (1*3600 + 11*60 + 37 = 4297)
>
>
> if $4 =  1@ 11' 37"
>
> how do I get $8 = 4297?
>
> thanks
>
> ryan
>
> --
> He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes
> wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. - Douglas
> Adams
>
>


-- 

  Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
  Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia

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* Re: (no subject)
  2014-05-03  3:01 ` William Henney
@ 2014-05-03  3:22   ` William Henney
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: William Henney @ 2014-05-03  3:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ryan Moszynski; +Cc: emacs-org

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Or, even better, just divide by the HMS form for 1 second (0@ 0' 1"):

| - | - | - | 1@ 11' 37" | - | - | - | 4297 |
#+TBLFM: $8=$4 \ 0@ 0' 1"

Note that \ is integer division, so there is no need for a format conversion

Will

P.S. I highly recommend reading the [[info:calc#Basic Arithmetic]] section
of the calc manual



On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:01 PM, William Henney <whenney@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ryan
>
> Convert to degrees, then multiply by 3600:
>
> | - | - | - | 1@ 11' 37" | - | - | - | 4297 |
> #+TBLFM: $8=3600 deg($4); %d
>
> Cheers
>
> Will
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Ryan Moszynski <ryan.moszynski@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> If an org table cell contains the HMS 1@ 11' 37"
>>
>> is there an easy way to get the total (time)seconds?
>>
>> (1*3600 + 11*60 + 37 = 4297)
>>
>>
>> if $4 =  1@ 11' 37"
>>
>> how do I get $8 = 4297?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> ryan
>>
>> --
>> He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes
>> wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it. - Douglas
>> Adams
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>   Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
>   Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
>



-- 

  Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
  Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia

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@ 2015-01-24 16:23 M.S.Khed Khed
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From: M.S.Khed Khed @ 2015-01-24 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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* (no subject)
@ 2015-09-04 14:51 Eduardo Mercovich
  2015-09-04 15:25 ` thomas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Eduardo Mercovich @ 2015-09-04 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Org Mode Mailing List

Hello everbody. 

I'm an emacs/org-mode newbie but I'm learning, so please forgive me if
this is obvious for you.

A couple days ago I updated org from the packages-list. 

Now, when I'm trying to use a simple org table (typing TAB, for
example), I get: 
"org-get-limited-outline-regexp: Variable binding depth exceeds
max-specpdl-size"

Also, while trying to export a document to html, I get: 
"Variable binding depth exceeds max-specpdl-size"

Looking up, I saw that this is a mechanisms to protect against infinite
recursions, so I tried to increase the limit -just to get the exporting
done- putting in my .emacs this:

(setq max-specpdl-size 15000)
(setq max-lisp-eval-depth 15000)

But, no luck. 

Any pointer about what could be happening, or how to solve it? 
Thanks a lot in advance... :)

-- 
e

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* Re: (no subject)
  2015-09-04 14:51 Eduardo Mercovich
@ 2015-09-04 15:25 ` thomas
  2015-09-04 18:35   ` Eduardo Mercovich
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: thomas @ 2015-09-04 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

you could revert to your working org installation (if you did not delete 
that folder)  by deleting / moving the folder with the faulty 
installation (say "org-201508XX") from your .emacs.d/elpa directory.

If this solves your problems, then I would recommend starting a "bare" 
emacs

  emacs -q

and install org from elpa again. A few days ago I ran into that same 
issue :-)

  - thomas


On 04.09.2015 16:51, Eduardo Mercovich wrote:
> Hello everbody.
>
> I'm an emacs/org-mode newbie but I'm learning, so please forgive me if
> this is obvious for you.
>
> A couple days ago I updated org from the packages-list.
>
> Now, when I'm trying to use a simple org table (typing TAB, for
> example), I get:
> "org-get-limited-outline-regexp: Variable binding depth exceeds
> max-specpdl-size"
>
> Also, while trying to export a document to html, I get:
> "Variable binding depth exceeds max-specpdl-size"
>
> Looking up, I saw that this is a mechanisms to protect against infinite
> recursions, so I tried to increase the limit -just to get the exporting
> done- putting in my .emacs this:
>
> (setq max-specpdl-size 15000)
> (setq max-lisp-eval-depth 15000)
>
> But, no luck.
>
> Any pointer about what could be happening, or how to solve it?
> Thanks a lot in advance... :)
>

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* Re: (no subject)
  2015-09-04 15:25 ` thomas
@ 2015-09-04 18:35   ` Eduardo Mercovich
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Eduardo Mercovich @ 2015-09-04 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: thomas; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Dear Thomas. 

> you could revert to your working org installation (if you did not delete 
> that folder)  by deleting / moving the folder with the faulty 
> installation (say "org-201508XX") from your .emacs.d/elpa directory.
> If this solves your problems, then I would recommend starting a "bare" 
> emacs
>   emacs -q
> and install org from elpa again.

I did it, with some hiccups in the middle, and now I have a working
Org-mode version 8.3.1 (8.3.1-95-g1dbb25-elpaplus) 
in 
~/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20150831/

Thank you! :)

> A few days ago I ran into that same  issue :-)

Even while upgrading is not yet perfect, the packaging system is
becoming better by each version. 

As I'm not a bleeding edge developer, I may enjoy this version for a
while, but for those who may step on the same rock: 

1 . I uninstalled org from the package manager (M-x list-packages, there
mark with "D" and execute with "x")
2 . unloaded every org file (this is important, close all org buffers
before installation), 
3. . and installed again org from the package manager; 
4. . after, installed org-plus-contrib. 

Now it seems it's working fine, and I hope it may serve others too.
Don't forget to unload org buffers before install! (is upgrading the
same?).

Thanks a lot Thomas! :)

Best... 

-- 
e

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* (no subject)
@ 2015-10-11 19:51 Shankar Rao
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Shankar Rao @ 2015-10-11 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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I have multiple savings accounts, some of which I want to partition into
mutiple virtual "subaccounts" that don't merit their own savings account. I
want to use org-mode tables to keep track how much money is each
subaccount. Given the following table:

#+TBLNAME: trans-150925
| ! | Amount | From       | To         | Subacct     |
|---+--------+------------+------------+-------------|
|   |     50 | Short Term | Inbox      | Bond        |
|   |    200 | Inbox      | Short Term | Bond        |
|   |    120 | Gifts      | Inbox      | Baby Gifts  |
|   |     75 | Short Term | Inbox      | Furnishings |

In this example, I have accounts "Inbox", "Short Term", and "Gifts". Of
these accounts, "Short Term" has two subaccounts "Bond" and "Furnishings",
and "Gifts" has a subaccount "Baby Gifts". I want to create a function that
given a subaccount name, calculates the net amount to be
withdrawn/deposited to the subaccount. Note that "Inbox" doesn't have any
subaccounts, which I want to use to determine if a given transaction is a
withdrawal or deposit to the subaccount.

I have created the following two functions to implement this:

(defun sbr/org-lookup-trans (category date s-name r-name)
  (let* ((table (concat "trans-" date))
         (s-range (format "@I%s..@>%s" s-name s-name))
         (s-col (org-table-get-remote table s-range))
         (r-range (format "@I%s..@>%s" r-name r-name))
         (r-col (org-table-get-remote table r-range)))
    (org-lookup-all category s-col r-col)))

(defun sbr/get-net-subacct (category date)
  (let* ((from-vec (sbr/org-lookup-trans category date "$Subacct" "$From"))
  (to-vec (sbr/org-lookup-trans category date "$Subacct" "$To"))
         (amount-vec (sbr/org-lookup-trans category date "$Subacct"
"$Amount"))
         (from-inbox-ind <indices of all from-vec elements that equal
"Inbox">) ; A
       (to-inbox-ind  <indices of all to-vec elements that equal "Inbox">)
; B
       (adds amount-vec[from-inbox-ind]) ; C
       (subs amount-vec[to-inbox-ind]))  ; D
    (calc-eval (if (zerop (length subs))
                 adds
 (concat adds "-" subs)))))

I need help filling in the pseudo code in lines A through D, namely:

1. how to get a list of all indices of elements in a vector that satisfy a
predicate?
2. how to reference a vector by a list of indices?

In this example the function should return the following values:

(sbr/get-net-subacct "Bond" "150925") ==> 150
(sbr/get-net-subacct "Furnishings" "150925") ==> -75
(sbr/get-net-subacct "Baby Gifts" "150925") ==> -120

How do I implement the above pseudocode functions? Is there a simpler way
to accomplish this task?

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* (no subject)
@ 2015-11-03 19:53 Fritz Kunze
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Fritz Kunze @ 2015-11-03 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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i am running emacs on a chromebook namely  emacs 24.4.1 and org
8.3.1-87-g4ef2c0...) on
chromebrew(https://skycocker.github.io/chromebrew/) .  My question:How
to make emacs org-mode open links to sites in Google Chrome?How to
make emacs org-mode open links to sites in Google Chrome


thanks in advance,

fritz kunze (fkunze@gmail.com)

i tried adding these lines to my init.el file (with no effect):

(setq browse-url-browser-function 'browse-url-generic

browse-url-generic-program "chromium-browser")

(setq browse-url-browser-function 'browse-url-generic

              browse-url-generic-program "google-chrome")

export BROWSER="google-chrome"

browse-url-generic-program

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* (no subject)
@ 2016-09-19 16:38 John Brodie
  2016-09-20 20:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: John Brodie @ 2016-09-19 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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From: brodiej@SEA-9901331265.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Bug: Babel :results raw doesn't replace results. [8.3.4
(8.3.4-72-gddd58f-elpa @
c:/Users/brodiej/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160530/)]
Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 09:35:36 -0700
Message-ID:
<tcbvsvaxru9t3.fsf@SEA-9901331265.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me
>
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I'm creating a literate program using org-babel with python. If I change
the output of a source block to 'raw' the results are not replaced on
each run, they are appended. This is quite annoying, because it means
manual editing everytime I need to re-run my program.  If I try to set
the flags 'replace' 'prepend' etc. they have no effect:

#+name: Example1
#+begin_src python :session :results raw :exports none
  'dogs and cats'
#+end_src

#+RESULTS: Example1
dogs and cats
dogs and cats
dogs and cats
dogs and cats
dogs and cats


Emacs  : GNU Emacs 25.0.92.1 (x86_64-w64-mingw32)
 of 2016-03-03
Package: Org-mode version 8.3.4 (8.3.4-72-gddd58f-elpa @
c:/Users/brodiej/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20160530/)

current state:
==============
(setq
 org-id-locations-file
"c:/Users/brodiej/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/.cache/.org-id-locations"
 org-export-backends '(ascii html icalendar latex odt confluence)
 org-latex-default-figure-position "H"
 org-export-babel-evaluate nil
 org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe
org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe
                      org-babel-header-arg-expand)
 org-latex-default-packages-alist '(("AUTO" "inputenc" t) ("T1" "fontenc"
nil)
                                    ("" "fixltx2e" nil) ("" "graphicx" t)
("" "grffile" t)
                                    ("" "longtable" nil) ("" "wrapfig" nil)
("" "rotating" nil)
                                    ("normalem" "ulem" t) ("" "amsmath" t)
("" "textcomp" t)
                                    ("" "amssymb" t) ("" "capt-of" nil) (""
"hyperref" nil))
 org-clock-persist-file
"c:/Users/brodiej/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/.cache/org-clock-save.el"
 org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-default-hook
org-babel-speed-command-hook)
 org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
 org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
 org-html-format-drawer-function '(lambda (name contents) contents)
 org-log-done 'time
 org-latex-format-inlinetask-function
'org-latex-format-inlinetask-default-function
 org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-ascii-format-inlinetask-function 'org-ascii-format-inlinetask-default
 org-link-translation-function 'toc-org-unhrefify
 org-present-mode-hook '(spacemacs//org-present-start)
 org-agenda-restore-windows-after-quit t
 org-agenda-custom-commands '(("n" "Agenda and all TODOs"
                               ((agenda "" nil) (todo "NEXT" nil) (alltodo
"" nil)) nil)
                              )
 org-latex-format-headline-function
'org-latex-format-headline-default-function
 org-default-notes-file "notes.org"
 org-latex-image-default-width ".6\\linewidth"
 org-startup-indented t
 org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
 org-latex-format-drawer-function '(lambda (name contents) contents)
 org-odt-format-headline-function 'org-odt-format-headline-default-function
 org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer
org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
 org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
 org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer)
 org-mode-hook '(#[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
                   [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all
append local] 5]
                 #[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
                   [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook
org-babel-show-result-all append local] 5]
                 org-babel-result-hide-spec org-babel-hide-all-hashes
toc-org-enable
                 org-bullets-mode flyspell-mode spacemacs/add-org-surrounds
evil-org-mode
                 org-eldoc-load)
 org-latex-prefer-user-labels t
 org-archive-hook '(org-attach-archive-delete-maybe)
 org-level-color-stars-only t
 org-ascii-format-drawer-function '(lambda (name contents width) contents)
 org-odt-format-inlinetask-function
'org-odt-format-inlinetask-default-function
 org-ctrl-c-ctrl-c-hook '(org-babel-hash-at-point
org-babel-execute-safely-maybe)
 org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers
                  org-cycle-show-empty-lines
org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
 org-present-mode-quit-hook '(spacemacs//org-present-end)
 org-export-async-init-file
"c:/Users/brodiej/AppData/Roaming/.emacs.d/layers/org/org-async-init.el"
 org-todo-keywords '((sequence "TODO(t)" "NEXT(n)" "STARTED" "WAITING(w)"
"|" "DONE(d)"
                      "CANCELED(c)")
                     )
 org-babel-tangle-lang-exts '(("python" . "py") ("emacs-lisp" . "el")
("elisp" . "el"))
 org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-startup-with-inline-images t
 org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
 org-odt-format-drawer-function '(lambda (name contents) contents)
 org-ditaa-jar-path
"C:\\Users\\brodiej\\AppData\\Roaming\\.emacs.d\\ditaa\\ditaa.jar"
 org-html-format-headline-function
'org-html-format-headline-default-function
 org-babel-load-languages '((python . t) (ditaa . t))
 org-html-format-inlinetask-function
'org-html-format-inlinetask-default-function
 org-fontify-whole-heading-line t
 org-agenda-files '("c:/docs/planner/brodie_planning.org")
 org-clock-out-hook '(org-clock-remove-empty-clock-drawer)
 org-confirm-babel-evaluate nil
 org-src-fontify-natively t
 )

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* Re: (no subject)
  2016-09-19 16:38 John Brodie
@ 2016-09-20 20:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2016-09-20 20:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: John Brodie; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

John Brodie <john.brodie@gmail.com> writes:

> I'm creating a literate program using org-babel with python. If I change
> the output of a source block to 'raw' the results are not replaced on
> each run, they are appended. This is quite annoying, because it means
> manual editing everytime I need to re-run my program.

You should use `drawer' instead of `raw' then. `raw' results cannot be
replaced, as you noticed, because there is no way to know where their
boundaries are.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* (no subject)
@ 2016-11-01 16:10 John Kitchin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: John Kitchin @ 2016-11-01 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: brown; +Cc: John Kitchin, Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org


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We might not always want a full export of an org heading to html for sending an email. Eric Brown would like to just send something that looks like what he sees in org-mode. There is another way to get html from emacs: htmlize! Here is an example. Eric: if this is what you mean, see my modified org-mime.el at [[https://github.com/jkitchin/scimax/blob/master/org-mime.el]]. 

The command to send a subtree is: [[elisp:org-mime-subtree-htmlize]]


#+BEGIN_EXAMPLE
My comment was motivated by other usage where I wish that I could simply
wrap an entire simple text, whitespace-formatted email message,
e.g. generated from org export to a plain text buffer, with a Monospace
directive so that webmail users could appreciate what I see with Sans
Mono.
#+END_EXAMPLE

| a | b | c |
| 4 | 5 | 6 |

An equation \(e^{i\pi} + 1 = 0\)

A figure: 

#+NAME: fig-particle
[[file:./images/Au-icosahedron-3.png]]

A code block:
#+BEGIN_SRC python
for i in range(5):
    print(i)
#+END_SRC

* A subtree

An orgmode reference: [[#Dominik201408][Dominik201408]]. A figure reference: [[ref:fig-particle]].

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-- 
Professor John Kitchin
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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* Re: [no subject]
@ 2016-12-28  7:34 Chris Gregory
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Chris Gregory @ 2016-12-28  7:34 UTC (permalink / raw)


Oops meant to reply to `Simplify internal_catch()'.

Anyway here is another patch with the same thing.
-- 
Chris Gregory

diff --git a/src/eval.c b/src/eval.c
index e50e26a..edb41b6 100644
--- a/src/eval.c
+++ b/src/eval.c
@@ -1337,20 +1337,12 @@ internal_condition_case_1 (Lisp_Object (*bfun) (Lisp_Object), Lisp_Object arg,
 			   Lisp_Object (*hfun) (Lisp_Object))
 {
   struct handler *c = push_handler (handlers, CONDITION_CASE);
-  if (sys_setjmp (c->jmp))
-    {
-      Lisp_Object val = handlerlist->val;
-      clobbered_eassert (handlerlist == c);
-      handlerlist = handlerlist->next;
-      return hfun (val);
-    }
-  else
-    {
-      Lisp_Object val = bfun (arg);
-      clobbered_eassert (handlerlist == c);
-      handlerlist = handlerlist->next;
-      return val;
-    }
+  bool is_returning = sys_setjmp (c->jmp);
+  Lisp_Object val = is_returning ? handlerlist->val : bfun (arg);
+
+  clobbered_eassert (handlerlist == c);
+  handlerlist = handlerlist->next;
+  return is_returning ? hfun (val) : val;
 }
 
 /* Like internal_condition_case_1 but call BFUN with ARG1 and ARG2 as



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* (no subject)
@ 2018-03-02 16:10 Joseph Vidal-Rosset
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Joseph Vidal-Rosset @ 2018-03-02 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Fraga; +Cc: Fabrice Niessen, emacs-orgmode list

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Dear Eric,

Just a quick email  to tell you that I have  just succeeded to configure
gnus-alias [[https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusAlias]]

rather     correctly     mainly     thanks    to     Fabrice     Niessen
[[https://github.com/fniessen/emacs-leuven/blob/master/gnus-leuven.el]]
(many thanks Fabrice !)

and thanks to other  related web pages. I still do  not succeed to use
correctly  regular  expressions   for  gnus-alias-identity-rules  but,
anyway, at  the moment  it works  correctly for  me. It  is a  very good
tool. 

Best wishes,

Jo

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* (no subject)
@ 2018-05-03 13:44 Arne Babenhauserheide
  2018-05-03 14:29 ` Bastien
  2018-05-11 20:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Arne Babenhauserheide @ 2018-05-03 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Dear Org Hackers,

When I use org-capture to capture a new task, the next headline
sometimes ends up being prefixed by the last line of the new task.

Example:

Begin:

* Foo
** old task

* Bar

After capture:

* Foo
** old task
** ❢ new task
   :LOGBOOK:
   CLOCK: [2018-05-03 Do 14:05]--[2018-05-03 Do 15:24] =>  1:19
   :END:

https://some.url/foo* Bar


Best wishes,
Arne Babenhauserheide



Emacs  : GNU Emacs 25.2.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.21)
 of 2017-09-22, modified by Debian
Package: Org mode version 9.1.7 (9.1.7-12-g74f6ed-elpa @ /home/babenhauserheide/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20180305/)

current state:
==============
(setq
 org-tab-first-hook '(org-babel-hide-result-toggle-maybe org-babel-header-arg-expand)
 org-habit-show-all-today t
 org-speed-command-hook '(org-speed-command-activate org-babel-speed-command-activate)
 org-clock-history-length 35
 org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
 org-metaup-hook '(org-babel-load-in-session-maybe)
 org-clock-mode-line-total 'today
 org-duration-format '((special . h:mm))
 org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-columns-default-format "%25ITEM %TODO %3PRIORITY %TAGS %17Effort(Estimated Effort){:} %CLOCKSUM"
 org-jira-done-states '("Closed" "Resolved" "Done" "Geschlossen" "Bearbeitet")
 org-agenda-custom-commands '(("o" "Agenda and TODOs"
			       ((agenda nil
				 ((org-agenda-compact-blocks nil) (org-agenda-block-separator 45)
				  (org-agenda-overriding-header ""))
				 )
				(tags-todo "-Arlaub-notodo" ((org-agenda-block-separator 45)))
				(tags "KANBAN"
				 ((org-agenda-block-separator 45) (org-agenda-compact-blocks nil)
				  (org-agenda-overriding-header ""))
				 )
				)
			       )
			      )
 org-default-notes-file "~/Plan/plan.org"
 org-capture-templates '(("l" "Task for later" entry (file+headline "~/Plan/plan.org" "Tasks") "** ❢ %?\n\n"
			  :empty-lines 1 :clock-in t :clock-resume t)
			 ("i" "Task to start immediately after filing" entry
			  (file+headline "~/Plan/plan.org" "Tasks") "** ☯ %?\n\n" :jump-to-captured t
			  :empty-lines 1 :clock-in t :clock-keep t)
			 ("w" "weekly schedule" entry (file+headline "~/Plan/schedule.org" "Regular Schedule")
			  "** %?\n   SCHEDULED: %^{Scheduled when?}T\n\n" :empty-lines 1 :clock-resume t)
			 )
 org-clock-out-when-done nil
 org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current kiwon/org-agenda-redo-in-other-window)
 org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-babel-configure-edit-buffer org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
 org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
 org-agenda-clock-consistency-checks '(:max-duration "10:00" :min-duration 0 :max-gap "0:05" :gap-ok-around
				       ("4:00" "12:30") :default-face
				       ((:background "DarkRed") (:foreground "white")) :overlap-face nil
				       :gap-face nil :no-end-time-face nil :long-face nil :short-face nil)
 org-babel-pre-tangle-hook '(save-buffer)
 org-global-properties '(("Effort_ALL" . "0:30 1:00 2:00 3:00 6:00 8:00 16:00 40:00"))
 org-mode-hook '(#[0 "\b\205\x1c\0\301 \205\x1c\0\302\303\301 !\304P!\305\x01!\205\x1a\0\306\x01!\262\x01\207"
		   [org-ctags-enabled-p buffer-file-name expand-file-name file-name-directory "/TAGS"
		    file-exists-p visit-tags-table]
		   3]
		 #[0 "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
		   [add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all append local] 5]
		 #[0 "\300\301\302\303\304$\207"
		   [add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-babel-show-result-all append local] 5]
		 org-babel-result-hide-spec org-babel-hide-all-hashes)
 org-bibtex-headline-format-function #[257 "\300\x01\236A\207" [:title] 3 "\n\n(fn ENTRY)"]
 org-archive-hook '(org-attach-archive-delete-maybe)
 org-directory "~/Plan"
 org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines
		  org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
 org-agenda-start-with-clockreport-mode t
 org-agenda-finalize-hook '((lambda nil (org-agenda-to-appt t)))
 org-modules '(org-bbdb org-bibtex org-crypt org-ctags org-docview org-eww org-gnus org-habit org-info org-irc
	       org-mhe org-rmail org-w3m)
 org-clock-report-include-clocking-task t
 org-timer-default-timer "\"0:00:30\""
 org-babel-tangle-lang-exts '(("python" . "py") ("emacs-lisp" . "el") ("elisp" . "el"))
 org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-edit-src-content-indentation 0
 org-metadown-hook '(org-babel-pop-to-session-maybe)
 org-clock-string-limit 16
 org-clock-budget-intervals '(("BUDGET_YEAR" ignore) ("BUDGET_MONTH" ignore)
			      ("BUDGET_WEEK" org-clock-budget-interval-this-week))
 org-link-parameters '(("id" :follow org-id-open) ("jira" :follow org-jira-open :export nil)
		       ("w3m" :store org-w3m-store-link)
		       ("rmail" :follow org-rmail-open :store org-rmail-store-link)
		       ("mhe" :follow org-mhe-open :store org-mhe-store-link)
		       ("irc" :follow org-irc-visit :store org-irc-store-link)
		       ("info" :follow org-info-open :export org-info-export :store org-info-store-link)
		       ("gnus" :follow org-gnus-open :store org-gnus-store-link)
		       ("eww" :follow eww :store org-eww-store-link)
		       ("docview" :follow org-docview-open :export org-docview-export :store
			org-docview-store-link)
		       ("bibtex" :follow org-bibtex-open :store org-bibtex-store-link)
		       ("bbdb" :follow org-bbdb-open :export org-bbdb-export :complete org-bbdb-complete-link
			:store org-bbdb-store-link)
		       ("file+sys") ("file+emacs") ("doi" :follow org--open-doi-link)
		       ("elisp" :follow org--open-elisp-link) ("file" :complete org-file-complete-link)
		       ("ftp" :follow (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "ftp:" path))))
		       ("help" :follow org--open-help-link)
		       ("http" :follow (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "http:" path))))
		       ("https" :follow (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "https:" path))))
		       ("mailto" :follow (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "mailto:" path))))
		       ("news" :follow (lambda (path) (browse-url (concat "news:" path))))
		       ("shell" :follow org--open-shell-link))
 org-babel-load-languages '((emacs-lisp . t) (shell . t) (python . t) (dot . t) (scheme . t))
 org-clock-sound t
 org-clock-in-hook '(kiwon/org-agenda-redo-in-other-window)
 org-reveal-start-hook '(org-decrypt-entry)
 org-agenda-files '("~/Plan/plan.org" "~/Plan/reviews.org" "~/Plan/standups.org" "~/Plan/schedule.org")
 org-clock-out-hook '(org-clock-remove-empty-clock-drawer kiwon/org-agenda-redo-in-other-window)
 )


-- 
unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein, 
ohne es zu merken. 
- ArneBab

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* Re: (no subject)
  2018-05-03 13:44 Arne Babenhauserheide
@ 2018-05-03 14:29 ` Bastien
  2018-05-03 21:02   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
  2018-05-04  5:38   ` Michael Welle
  2018-05-11 20:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2018-05-03 14:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arne Babenhauserheide; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Dear Arne,

there was a temporary glitch in earlier version of Org about this,
please upgrade Org to 9.1.12 through the package system and let us
know if you still have this issue.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien

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* Re: (no subject)
  2018-05-03 14:29 ` Bastien
@ 2018-05-03 21:02   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
  2018-05-04  1:02     ` steen
  2018-05-04  5:38   ` Michael Welle
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Arne Babenhauserheide @ 2018-05-03 21:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

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Dear Bastien,

Thank you for your answer! I’ll check whether the update resolves this.


(and I’m sorry for the empty subject, I copied the email from Emacs,
since I do not have mail sending from emacs configured at work, and I
forgot to copy the subject).

Best wishes,
Arne

Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

> Dear Arne,
>
> there was a temporary glitch in earlier version of Org about this,
> please upgrade Org to 9.1.12 through the package system and let us
> know if you still have this issue.
>
> Thanks!


--
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein
ohne es zu merken

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* Re: (no subject)
  2018-05-03 21:02   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
@ 2018-05-04  1:02     ` steen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: steen @ 2018-05-04  1:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: arne_bab; +Cc: bzg, org-mode-email

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FYI I am on org 9.1.4 and am still seeing this issue.

-- Steen


On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 2:26 PM Arne Babenhauserheide <arne_bab@web.de>
wrote:

> Dear Bastien,
>
> Thank you for your answer! I’ll check whether the update resolves this.
>
>
> (and I’m sorry for the empty subject, I copied the email from Emacs,
> since I do not have mail sending from emacs configured at work, and I
> forgot to copy the subject).
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne
>
> Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > Dear Arne,
> >
> > there was a temporary glitch in earlier version of Org about this,
> > please upgrade Org to 9.1.12 through the package system and let us
> > know if you still have this issue.
> >
> > Thanks!
>
>
> --
> Unpolitisch sein
> heißt politisch sein
> ohne es zu merken
>

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* Re: (no subject)
  2018-05-03 14:29 ` Bastien
  2018-05-03 21:02   ` Arne Babenhauserheide
@ 2018-05-04  5:38   ` Michael Welle
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Michael Welle @ 2018-05-04  5:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:

> Dear Arne,
>
> there was a temporary glitch in earlier version of Org about this,
> please upgrade Org to 9.1.12 through the package system and let us
> know if you still have this issue.
oh, i thought that is a feature of some kind. Let me upgrade... Hm, the
feature|issue still exist in 9.1.12.

The issue occurs if the capture buffer isn't finished with a newline. My
workaround:

;;
;; Since some time Org does not prepend a \n after inserting
;; a capture template. We fix this ;).
;;
(defun hmw/org-insert-newline-after-template ()
  (goto-char (point-max))
  (if (not (re-search-backward "\\(^$\\)" (point-at-bol) t))
      (progn
        (goto-char (point-max))
        (insert "\n"))))

(setq org-capture-prepare-finalize-hook
      'hmw/org-insert-newline-after-template)

Regards
hmw

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* Re: (no subject)
  2018-05-03 13:44 Arne Babenhauserheide
  2018-05-03 14:29 ` Bastien
@ 2018-05-11 20:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2018-05-11 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arne Babenhauserheide; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

"Arne Babenhauserheide" <Arne_Bab@web.de> writes:

> Dear Org Hackers,
>
> When I use org-capture to capture a new task, the next headline
> sometimes ends up being prefixed by the last line of the new task.
>
> Example:
>
> Begin:
>
> * Foo
> ** old task
>
> * Bar
>
> After capture:
>
> * Foo
> ** old task
> ** ❢ new task
>    :LOGBOOK:
>    CLOCK: [2018-05-03 Do 14:05]--[2018-05-03 Do 15:24] =>  1:19
>    :END:
>
> https://some.url/foo* Bar
>
>
> Best wishes,
> Arne Babenhauserheide
>
>
>
> Emacs  : GNU Emacs 25.2.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.21)
>  of 2017-09-22, modified by Debian
> Package: Org mode version 9.1.7 (9.1.7-12-g74f6ed-elpa @
>  /home/babenhauserheide/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20180305/)

Could you update Org mode and see if problem persists?

Thank you.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* (no subject)
@ 2018-10-15  8:04 Nik Clayton
  2018-10-17 13:20 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2019-09-15 21:06 ` Matt Price
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Nik Clayton @ 2018-10-15  8:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode


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Hi,

I'd like to propose a couple of changes / enhancements to how org-export
exports some data in to HTML files to make it slightly easier to style
those files.

The first is re line-numbers.

At the moment those get exported as content in the HTML, although they're
really additional metadata. Amongst other things, this means that if you
copy/paste from the output you get the line numbers included in the text
that's copied.

CSS supports arbitrary counters that can be associated with content,
starting from an arbitrary value. My current hack that sort of works is the
following CSS:

/* Hide the current line numbers */
span.linenr {
  display: none;
}

/* Style each line. Maintain a counter for each line, increment
   by one for each <code>...</code> element.
.reveal pre.src code {
  display: inline;
  font-size: 125%;
  line-height: 1.2;
  counter-increment: line;
}

/* Show a line number before each line. */
.reveal pre.src code:before {
  content: counter(line);
  border-right: 1px solid #ddd;
  padding: 0 0.5em;
  margin-right: 0.5em;
  width: 1em;
  display: inline-block;
  text-align: right;
}

and a change to org-html-do-format-code to wrap each line in its own
<code>...</code> element:

...
          ;; Transcoded src line.
          (format "<code>%s</code>" loc)
...

But this adds line numbers to all code blocks, irrespective of the "-n"
option, and they all start from one.

What I'd like to do is change the output to:

1. Omit the <span class="linenr">...</span>" content.
2. Add an additional class to the pre element to indicate whether or not
this block should have line numbers.
3. Add a data-ox-starting-number (or similar) attribute to the pre element
that specifies what the starting line number for this block should be.

Couple of questions before I write a patch:

a) Does that sound reasonable?
b) Should this replace the current approach, or be an option that can be
toggled by a customisation?


And the second is re languages associated with exported SRC blocks.

At the moment the language is mentioned as src-... class (src-html,
src-javascript, etc).

I'd like to put the language in a data-ox-src-language attribute as well
(e.g., <pre class="src src-html" data-ox-src-language="HTML">...</pre>) so
that I can put use CSS to put badges indicating the language in the output.

Per
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/HTML/Howto/Use_data_attributes
that would look something like:

.src:after {
  content: attr(data-ox-src-language);
  position: absolute;
  top: -10px;
  right: -10px;
  font-size: 70%;
  background: green;
  color: white;
  text-align: center;
  line-height: 18px;
  border-radius: .25em;
  padding: 0 0.5em;
  box-shadow: 0 0 1px #333;
}

I see there's already some code that tries to show language badges on hover
(which doesn't work for me for some reason, I haven't dug in to why).

Does this change sound reasonable?

Here's a screenshot from an export showing early versions of these changes
in action. Notice how the selected text (the first function) doesn't
include the line numbers in the selection.

[image: image.png]

N

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* Re: (no subject)
  2018-10-15  8:04 Nik Clayton
@ 2018-10-17 13:20 ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2019-09-15 21:06 ` Matt Price
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2018-10-17 13:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nik Clayton; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

Hello,

Nik Clayton <nik@ngo.org.uk> writes:

> I'd like to propose a couple of changes / enhancements to how org-export
> exports some data in to HTML files to make it slightly easier to style
> those files.
>
> The first is re line-numbers.

[...]

> Couple of questions before I write a patch:
>
> a) Does that sound reasonable?
> b) Should this replace the current approach, or be an option that can be
> toggled by a customisation?

My HTML/CSS knowledge is feeble. But it does sound reasonable, if
there's no loss of feature and compatibility.

A patch would be nice for users exporting to HTML who want to test the
behaviour.

> And the second is re languages associated with exported SRC blocks.

[...]

> I see there's already some code that tries to show language badges on hover
> (which doesn't work for me for some reason, I haven't dug in to why).
>
> Does this change sound reasonable?

Ditto.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* (no subject)
@ 2018-10-20  9:02 stardiviner
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: stardiviner @ 2018-10-20  9:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: org-mode

Org source block header argument :var does not support quoted string with space separator like bellowing example:

For example

**** encrypt text -- ~<<< [TEXT]~

#+NAME: base64 encrypt text
#+begin_src sh
base64 <<< "stardiviner <numbchild@gmail.com>"
#+end_src

#+RESULTS: base64 encrypt text
: c3RhcmRpdmluZXIgPG51bWJjaGlsZEBnbWFpbC5jb20+Cg==

**** decrypt text -- ~-d~

#+begin_src sh :var encrypted="base64 encrypt text"
# base64 -d <<< c3RhcmRpdmluZXIgPG51bWJjaGlsZEBnbWFpbC5jb20+Cg==
base64 -d <<< $encrypted
#+end_src

If I use #+NAME: base64-encrypt-text and :var encrypted=base64-encrypt-text, then it works fine.

-- 
[ stardiviner ] don't need to convince with trends.
       Blog: https://stardiviner.github.io/
       IRC(freenode): stardiviner
       GPG: F09F650D7D674819892591401B5DF1C95AE89AC3
      

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* (no subject)
@ 2018-12-19 12:58 Emmanuel Charpentier
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Emmanuel Charpentier @ 2018-12-19 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode


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[ Fourth attempt to send this to emacs-orgmode ; the first three attempts
were made from an account using an SMTP server seemingly blacklisted, but
no error message was sent back. Apologies if this turns out to be a
duplicate ]

I wish to be able to reference (i. e cross-references, lists) both some
tables or figures AND the code producing the objects.

To this effect, I added (distinct) #+caption:s to the source blocks AND
to the results, adorned with (distinct) org-ref's labels. An example is
included in the enclosed file Min-Ref.org.

The comparison of this source, the LaTeX code obtained by org-latex
export-to latex (Min-Ref.tex) and the resultant PDF (Min-Ref exported
by org-latex-export-to-pdf.pdf) show that the labels attributed to
source blocks are mislabeled as figures. Furthermore, while the org
source requests a list of figure, a list of table and a list of
listings (in that order), the list of figures appears *after* the list
of tables.

I am tempted to conclude that there is some confusion between figures
and listings. Further attempts tend to show that the problem may live n
the core org's code, rather than any specific exporter :

The ODT "native" exporter (org-odt-export-to-odt) is much less capable,
as shown in Min-Ref exported by org-odt-export-to-odt.odt.

Attempts to export via Pandoc to PDF (Min-Ref exported by org-pandoc-
export-to-latex-pdf.pdf), ODT (Min-Ref exported by org-pandoc-export-
to-odt.odt) and DOCX (Min-Ref.docx) show that these exporters may need
some specific configurations in order to be even vaguely usable.

Previous trials, using #+names: rather than org-ref's labels, gave
similar failures. If needed, I can reproduce these trials.

So I have a couple questions :

1) Is the confusion of source blocks and figures a bug, or do I miss a
subtle point ?

2) Is there some introductory material to the care and feeding of ox-
pandoc demonstrating the use of this exporter's options to enable the
addition of the needed features (figure inclusion, tables of tables /
figures / listings, etc...) ? The "manual" available as a README is way
too terse to be usable without diving in the source code and pandoc's
documentation.

Sincerely,

--
Emmanuel Charpentier

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#+options: toc:nil
#+property: header-args:python :session
#+language: fr

#+title: What's up with references ?
#+author:
#+date: December 2018

#+toc: headlines
#+toc: figures
#+toc: tables
#+toc: listings

* Some reference samples

This is created using =org-ref= 's =label= 's and =ref= 's.

** A reference...

... to cite:gelmanBayesianDataAnalysis2013 ,a /good/ textbook.

** A table

A Python block producing a (silly) table.

#+caption: A (silly) Python block. label:lst:Python1
#+BEGIN_SRC python :results table :exports both
[[u+str(v) for v in range(1,4)] for u in ["a", "b"]]
#+END_SRC

#+caption: A (silly) Python table. label:tab:Python1
#+RESULTS:
| a1 | a2 | a3 |
| b1 | b2 | b3 |

The table ref:tab:Python1 is produced by the code ref:lst:Python1.

** A figure

A Python block producing a figure.

#+caption: A Python block producing a figure. label:lst:Python2
#+BEGIN_SRC python :results file :exports both
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt, numpy as np
from sympy import *
x=symbols("x")
f=lambda x:sin(x)/x
t=np.arange(-6*np.pi,6*np.pi, 0.1)
ft=[f(u) for u in t]
fig=plt.figure(figsize=(3,2))
plt.plot(t, ft, "b-")
fig.tight_layout()
plt.savefig("tstfig.pdf")
"tstfig.pdf"
#+END_SRC

#+caption: A (not so silly) figure produced by Python. label:fig:Python2
#+RESULTS:
[[file:tstfig.pdf]]

The figure ref:fig:Python2 is produced by the code ref:lst:Python2.

[[bibliographystyle:vancouver]]
[[bibliography:Minimal.bib]]

# Local Variables:
# org-latex-packages-alist: (("AUTO" "babel" t ("pdflatex")) ("AUTO" "polyglossia" t ("xelatex" "lualatex")))
# org-latex-pdf-process: ("latexmk -shell-escape -bibtex -f -pdf %f")
# End:

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% Created 2018-12-17 lun. 15:49
% Intended LaTeX compiler: pdflatex
\documentclass[11pt]{article}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{grffile}
\usepackage{longtable}
\usepackage{wrapfig}
\usepackage{rotating}
\usepackage[normalem]{ulem}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{textcomp}
\usepackage{amssymb}
\usepackage{capt-of}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\usepackage[frenchb]{babel}
\date{December 2018}
\title{What's up with references ?}
\hypersetup{
 pdfauthor={},
 pdftitle={What's up with references ?},
 pdfkeywords={},
 pdfsubject={},
 pdfcreator={Emacs 27.0.50 (Org mode 9.1.14)}, 
 pdflang={Frenchb}}
\begin{document}

\maketitle
\tableofcontents
\listoftables
\listoffigures

\section{Some reference samples}
\label{sec:orgfe4b8ad}

This is created using \texttt{org-ref} 's \texttt{label} 's and \texttt{ref} 's.

\subsection{A reference\ldots{}}
\label{sec:org22891f6}

\ldots{} to \cite{gelmanBayesianDataAnalysis2013} ,a \emph{good} textbook.

\subsection{A table}
\label{sec:org844d514}

A Python block producing a (silly) table.

\begin{verbatim}
[[u+str(v) for v in range(1,4)] for u in ["a", "b"]]
\end{verbatim}
\captionof{figure}{A (silly) Python block. \label{lst:Python1}}

\begin{table}[htbp]
\caption{A (silly) Python table. \label{tab:Python1}}
\centering
\begin{tabular}{lll}
a1 & a2 & a3\\
b1 & b2 & b3\\
\end{tabular}
\end{table}

The table \ref{tab:Python1} is produced by the code \ref{lst:Python1}.

\subsection{A figure}
\label{sec:orgf75a27d}

A Python block producing a figure.

\begin{verbatim}
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt, numpy as np
from sympy import *
x=symbols("x")
f=lambda x:sin(x)/x
t=np.arange(-6*np.pi,6*np.pi, 0.1)
ft=[f(u) for u in t]
fig=plt.figure(figsize=(3,2))
plt.plot(t, ft, "b-")
fig.tight_layout()
plt.savefig("tstfig.pdf")
"tstfig.pdf"
\end{verbatim}
\captionof{figure}{A Python block producing a figure. \label{lst:Python2}}

\begin{figure}[htbp]
\centering
\includegraphics[width=.9\linewidth]{tstfig.pdf}
\caption{A (not so silly) figure produced by Python. \label{fig:Python2}}
\end{figure}

The figure \ref{fig:Python2} is produced by the code \ref{lst:Python2}.

\bibliographystyle{vancouver}
\bibliography{Minimal}
\end{document}

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* (no subject)
@ 2019-02-04  3:40 Lawrence Bottorff
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Lawrence Bottorff @ 2019-02-04  3:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist

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At the bottom of this <https://orgmode.org/manual/Literal-examples.html> is
a description of adding a `org-store-link` inside of a babel code block
edit called with C-c ' , however, it doesn't seem to work with C-c l ,
although M-x org-store-line does work. Or am I seeing, doing this wrong?

LB

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* Re: (no subject)
  2018-10-15  8:04 Nik Clayton
  2018-10-17 13:20 ` Nicolas Goaziou
@ 2019-09-15 21:06 ` Matt Price
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Matt Price @ 2019-09-15 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Nik Clayton; +Cc: emacs-orgmode

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I'm replying a year late to this thread, post-merge, because I've
discovered it breaks interaction with the highlight.js library(
https://highlightjs.org/) and therefore my workflow, which depends on
highlightjs via reveal.js.

My difficulty is with the current version of ~org-html-do-format-code~,
which currently surrounds each loc with a ~<code>~ tag and potentially some
classes:

(format "<code%s>%s</code>"
                      (if num-start
                          (format " data-ox-html-linenr=\"%s\"" line-num)
                        "")
                      loc)



On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 4:07 AM Nik Clayton <nik@ngo.org.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to propose a couple of changes / enhancements to how org-export
> exports some data in to HTML files to make it slightly easier to style
> those files.
>
> The first is re line-numbers.
>
> At the moment those get exported as content in the HTML, although they're
> really additional metadata. Amongst other things, this means that if you
> copy/paste from the output you get the line numbers included in the text
> that's copied.
>
> CSS supports arbitrary counters that can be associated with content,
> starting from an arbitrary value. My current hack that sort of works is the
> following CSS:
>  .....
> and a change to org-html-do-format-code to wrap each line in its own
> <code>...</code> element:
>
> ...
>           ;; Transcoded src line.
>           (format "<code>%s</code>" loc)
> ...
>
> a) Does that sound reasonable?
> b) Should this replace the current approach, or be an option that can be
> toggled by a customisation?
>
> I agree that thisseems to make sense for many applications. But
highlight.js is a very widely-used highlighting library that expects
exactly one ~<code>~ tag inside a given ~<pre>~ block. The additional
~<code>~ tags  that org now generates on html export break highlight in
ways I don't believe can easily be fixed. I wonder if we could revisit the
idea of adding a user option that would allow this feature to be switched
off?  If this would be of general use I can prepare a patch.

Thanks,
Matt

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* (No subject)
@ 2020-05-22 10:45 slb zetrov
  2020-05-22 19:25 ` Yuan Fu
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: slb zetrov @ 2020-05-22 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vasilij Schneidermann, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca; +Cc: emacs-devel

Hi,

tl;dr: By actually trying to implement the idea, I just realized that the idea
is flawed, and ‘exec-path-from-shell’ is necessary.

---

Thanks for pointing out ‘exec-path-from-shell’ can work on other situations and
‘parsenv’ to sync two versions of paths.

Problem is that users might have a lot of staffs inside ‘.bashrc’
‘.bash_profile’ and ‘.zshrc’, as a result, an embedded script just cannot be
simply imported to a shell session to figure the PATH.

The only way to properly get the PATH is to let the shell print the PATH and
read the results which is exactly what ‘exec-path-from-shell’ do.

---

Technically, Emacs.app and command-line Emacs "lives" in two different worlds.
Command-line Emacs lives in at a Unix environment. Emacs.app lives in macOS's
‘launchd‘ environment which is part of the desktop environment and it has a
specific set of env variables.

I guess the reason why some Linux desktop environments didn't provide right
PATH is they override the env variables or use a different technique to launch
applications. It might not be a bug but a feature.

---

Thanks!



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* Re: (No subject)
  2020-05-22 10:45 (No subject) slb zetrov
@ 2020-05-22 19:25 ` Yuan Fu
  2020-05-23 10:54   ` Michael Albinus
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Yuan Fu @ 2020-05-22 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: slb zetrov; +Cc: emacs-devel, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Vasilij Schneidermann

Can we implement something built-in? So paths works out-of-the-box and new users doesn’t need to google why Emacs can’t find xxx.

Yuan


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* Re: (No subject)
  2020-05-22 19:25 ` Yuan Fu
@ 2020-05-23 10:54   ` Michael Albinus
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus @ 2020-05-23 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Yuan Fu
  Cc: slb zetrov, Vasilij Schneidermann, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,
	emacs-devel

Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:

> Can we implement something built-in? So paths works out-of-the-box and
> new users doesn’t need to google why Emacs can’t find xxx.

Can we use a proper subject in messages? So users doen’t need to google
what is meant?

> Yuan

Best regards, Michael.



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* (No Subject)
@ 2024-11-27 12:21 Mike via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
  2024-11-28  6:02 ` Tassilo Horn
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 450+ messages in thread
From: Mike via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor @ 2024-11-27 12:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

I am very newbie on emacs. How to learn and use emacs?

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* Re: (No Subject)
  2024-11-27 12:21 (No Subject) Mike via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
@ 2024-11-28  6:02 ` Tassilo Horn
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 450+ messages in thread
From: Tassilo Horn @ 2024-11-28  6:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mike via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor; +Cc: Mike

Mike via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:

> I am very newbie on emacs. How to learn and use emacs?

Start with the Emacs Tutor: type C-h t in Emacs, that is, press Ctrl+h
and then t.

HTH,
Tassilo



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2013-03-10 22:40                         ` T.F. Torrey
2013-03-03  0:55 Vikas Rawal
2013-01-29  9:43 Martin Beck
2013-01-30 12:12 ` Bernt Hansen
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2012-11-12  7:40   ` Fabrice Popineau
2012-11-07 18:50 Kevin Buchs
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2012-09-29  9:52 ` Achim Gratz
2012-08-24 16:21 Feiming Chen
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2012-05-26  6:48         ` Nicolas Goaziou
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2012-05-29 17:57             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2012-05-30  0:51               ` Mark E. Shoulson
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