From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Customizing key bindings (was: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound..) Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:34:05 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87ofbji88u.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87sn0scb0b.fsf@emacswiki.org> <200209061728.g86HSVp32767@rum.cs.yale.edu> <20020906220339.GA7270@gnu.org> <200209091353.g89DrVE18279@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031615104 12549 127.0.0.1 (9 Sep 2002 23:45:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: abraham@dina.kvl.dk, miles@gnu.org, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17oYDH-0003GD-00 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 01:45:03 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17oYnR-0000kt-00 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 02:22:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17oYDL-0005xM-00; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:45:07 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17oY2j-0003RL-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:34:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17oY2f-0003PH-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:34:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17oY2f-0003Oc-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:34:05 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 17oY2f-000610-00; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:34:05 -0400 Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu In-reply-to: <200209091353.g89DrVE18279@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7782 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7782 > If you want to make configuration easy to the end-users, you need to > start with their needs, and not with the old textual configuration > files. It is one area where MS Windows and Mac programmers tend to be > better than Unix programmers. But I (as a programmer-style user) simply hate those interfaces because I have no way to relate them to the real underlying concepts so that I end up forced to use the "user-friendly" interface all the time, with all its limitations. Could you move this theoretical abstract discussion off of emacs-devel?