From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Stallman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound.. Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:34:03 -0400 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20020903130247.GA6318@gnu.org> <20020903173120.GA29981@gnu.org> <87ptvttnyo.fsf@emacswiki.org> <200209061736.g86HaDi00352@rum.cs.yale.edu> <20020906222113.GC7270@gnu.org> <5xelc662nj.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200209091335.g89DZEO18130@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: rms@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031614985 12290 127.0.0.1 (9 Sep 2002 23:43:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 23:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: storm@cua.dk, miles@gnu.org, monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu, abraham@dina.kvl.dk, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17oYBJ-0003C1-00 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 01:43:01 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17oYlT-0000ir-00 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 02:20:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17oYBO-0005eZ-00; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:43:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17oY2h-0003Qm-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:34:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17oY2e-0003OL-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:34:06 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17oY2e-0003OF-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:34:04 -0400 Original-Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.10) id 17oY2d-00060c-00; Mon, 09 Sep 2002 19:34:03 -0400 Original-To: monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu In-reply-to: <200209091335.g89DZEO18130@rum.cs.yale.edu> (monnier+gnu/emacs@rum.cs.yale.edu) Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7780 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7780 > But what's does it mean to delete a key binding? Right now, I think we can assume it's "defined" by the definition of global-unset-key (which indeed binds the key to nil). > Or should it restore a default key binding from bindings.el ? I am afraid that the confusion I tried to clear up last weekend is striking again. We need to distinguish between (1) deleting a key binding customization, and (2) deleting a binding in a keymap. Telling Custom that you want to do delete a global binding (if we provide a way to do this) is actually adding a customization. Deleting a customization is (1); it may or may not be (2).