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From: Joseph Turner <joseph@breatheoutbreathe.in>
To: rms@gnu.org, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, mail+gh@daniel-mendler.de
Subject: Re: [IDEA] Add function clean-buffer
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2023 17:59:53 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E0D1F436-1674-4F12-BD30-F59FEF74F229@breatheoutbreathe.in> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1qelzq-0003m4-IU@fencepost.gnu.org>



On September 8, 2023 5:38:46 PM PDT, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
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>
>Why make this command kill local variables?
>Most buffer-local variables come from the major mode.
>Is it really desirable to reliminate the major mode?
>
>Eliminating the major mode is what `fundamental-mode' does.
>Text properties are usually related to the major mode,
>often due to Font Lock mode.
>
>Should `fundamental-mode' eliminate text properties?  Or perhaps only
>some text properties?
>
>Should `clean-buffer' eliminate only the text properties and overlays
>that do NOT come from the major mode?

I'm also concerned that clean-buffer is too vague a function name, and so the scope of its behavior is not clear. I can see that some programs may want to "clean a buffer" by eliminating text properties and overlays but not killing local variables, whereas others may want to do all three and potentially something else.

At this point, I'm open to letting this patch go ignored.

Thank you for considering this idea with me!

Joseph



  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-09  0:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-03 22:18 [IDEA] Add function clean-buffer Joseph Turner
2023-09-04 16:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2023-09-05 19:37   ` Joseph Turner
2023-09-06 11:59     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-08  4:55       ` Joseph Turner
2023-09-08  9:13         ` David Ponce
2023-09-08 17:21           ` Joseph Turner
2023-09-09  0:38       ` Richard Stallman
2023-09-09  0:59         ` Joseph Turner [this message]
2023-09-09  7:00           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-10  8:19             ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-12  0:29               ` Richard Stallman

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