From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: GNU Emacs raison d'etre Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 18:07:54 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5230692c-c665-a330-7a12-e59fa25d97dd@gmail.com> <871rnnvmdx.fsf@red-bean.com> <87pnb7sira.fsf@red-bean.com> <83zha8tluq.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9kwi6ta.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> <83wo5ccgg4.fsf@gnu.org> <87lflshxtq.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> <83mu68cbbb.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7wghxdz.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> <87eerkgey1.fsf@osv.gnss.ru> <112aecd7-8165-6cae-ef69-08d14d843841@yandex.ru> <5d158a63-7173-424c-9d9f-ce7856f1eae7@default> <4bb36686-34e7-4ac8-898c-74e254902349@default> <29f65907-affb-481e-82f3-62522a766f69@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="90369"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Richard Stallman , =?utf-8?Q?Andreas_R=C3=B6hler?= , Emacs developers , Karl Fogel , homeros.misasa@gmail.com, tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp, Sergey Organov , Stefan Kangas , Dmitry Gutov , Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 17 11:08:42 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jaFHm-000NQt-EY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 11:08:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45114 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaFHl-0000nK-H1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 05:08:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35602) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaFHH-000098-Rk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 05:08:11 -0400 Original-Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]:35605) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaFHG-0007ST-45; Sun, 17 May 2020 05:08:11 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 128.53.210.217 Original-Received: from [10.0.1.13] (pl6361.ag0304.nttpc.ne.jp [128.53.210.217]) (Authenticated sender: jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org) by relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E4A81240002; Sun, 17 May 2020 09:07:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <29f65907-affb-481e-82f3-62522a766f69@default> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.193; envelope-from=jean.christophe.helary@traduction-libre.org; helo=relay1-d.mail.gandi.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/17 05:08:06 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250575 Archived-At: > On May 17, 2020, at 16:11, Drew Adams wrote: >=20 >>> It may be less common to also have an input field there. >>=20 >> FWIW, the macos equivalent to the minibuffer is a "frame" that you = can >> move freely around the screen. >=20 > In Emacs too the minibuffer can be a frame > that you can move freely around the screen. I mean in macos it *is*. By default. I would love to have a similar = feature by default in emacs. Btw, I tried emacs-maple-minibuffer earlier today and there must be an = issue with my configuration because I had remnants of windows in the = desktop file that would float over my frames and just would not go away = even after a restart. I had to manually edit the desktop file to make = them go away, plus the echo area was not handled by the new windows so I = had a minibuffer floating window and the echo remained at the bottom of = the frame. It was confusing. But that's a different subject... Jean-Christophe Helary ----------------------------------------------- http://mac4translators.blogspot.com @brandelune