From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: uzibalqa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Running emacs without any customisation Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 11:54:43 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27394"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Thibaut Verron Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 10 13:55:47 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ohrNq-0006t4-4B for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 13:55:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54784 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohrNo-0003Ra-LF for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 07:55:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47870) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohrN5-0003RL-1G for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 07:55:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4325.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.25]:36089) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ohrN2-0004Bt-5N for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Oct 2022 07:54:58 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=proton.me; s=protonmail; t=1665402892; x=1665662092; bh=/YaB+wj4aVviaQvxsiSW7Mat2Q5rCO77bRKccvyYOpU=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=L4LypLAo08jpS41O0Roq9UDRUM1BLEKswpxf59uTM7bbedKG0yJuhc6geN5kslZGo hRzblxWjwKsehqFN6V6oaekUyOwBY2p5XoKjnHU9c/IGUPdxfndHyW+CDN0OdNROVY rHpaz+ewW88mkvyu3nIuGqo6tUyLL8X8Pi5vWy6lVM+pXcW4zRbrMSnCRjlZynSXSQ B5Rg1MFwg2mUpO5+CSbWzbM3DfJfAhgBlbRnWreEbFJ9RY14TdKcRv559MLWkrvKJx yWux3ODBshcoK+MTmhAQqfKkIYhHAUCYXHuv7nVbm0H+O2bHczzi3p1r+3dTILPYnf F49XHChV3KK6A== In-Reply-To: Feedback-ID: 52887082:user:proton Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.43.25; envelope-from=uzibalqa@proton.me; helo=mail-4325.protonmail.ch X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:139786 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Monday, October 10th, 2022 at 11:46 AM, Thibaut Verron wrote: > Hi, >=20 > So I see two things here. >=20 > First, even with an empty .emacs, just running emacs might not the > equivalent of "emacs -Q", as it will still load the system-wide > configuration files (the "site-elisp"). >=20 > Second, running emacs with an empty .emacs should not result in a black > background. The cause is almost certainly in the xepty.el file where all > the functions and variables used here are (I hope) defined. (xepty 'nogo) should not even load "xepty.el". Hom can one figure out=20 what "site-elisp" could be doing? =20 > On 10/10/2022 13:36, uzibalqa wrote: >=20 > > I have the following in my .emacs file. Calling (xepty 'nogo) should > > not execute anything. But when I run emacs, I get a black background. > >=20 > > I thought I would get the equivalent of "emacs -Q". > >=20 > > (defun xepty (&optional statck) > > "Launch xepty tools for Emacs." > >=20 > > (unless (equal statck 'nogo) > > (add-to-list 'load-path "${HOME}/xepty/") > > (load "xepty") > > (xepty-tools))) > >=20 > > (xepty 'nogo) > >=20 > > (custom-set-variables > > '(savehist-additional-variables '(xepty-frame-pos)) > > '(xepty-frame-pos '(34 . 34)))