Enlarging minibuffer prompt

Enlarging minibuffer prompt

[Jean Louis]

I would like minibuffer to be significantly larger.

There is face `minibuffer-prompt' which I could customize:

[X] Height: Value Menu Scale: 1.5

So that gives me more readable, visible prompt.

But then the text in the prompt, the actual text I am entering is
`default' face. 

And I was thinking that text I am entering in the minibuffer prompt
should be something like `minibuffer-default-face', some face that is
customized especially for minibuffer.

Is there a way that I can customize the `default' face but only within
the minibuffer?

My final goal would be to enlarge the minibuffer only from my program,
based on variables that user customizes within my software. 


Jean

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Re: Enlarging minibuffer prompt

[Stephen Berman]

On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 09:11:33 +0300 Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:

> I would like minibuffer to be significantly larger.
>
> There is face `minibuffer-prompt' which I could customize:
>
> [X] Height: Value Menu Scale: 1.5
>
> So that gives me more readable, visible prompt.
>
> But then the text in the prompt, the actual text I am entering is
> `default' face.
>
> And I was thinking that text I am entering in the minibuffer prompt
> should be something like `minibuffer-default-face', some face that is
> customized especially for minibuffer.
>
> Is there a way that I can customize the `default' face but only within
> the minibuffer?
>
> My final goal would be to enlarge the minibuffer only from my program,
> based on variables that user customizes within my software.

How about something like this:

(add-hook 'minibuffer-setup-hook (lambda () (text-scale-adjust 2)))

Steve Berman

Re: Enlarging minibuffer prompt

[Jean Louis]

* Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net> [2024-10-24 10:36]:
> > Is there a way that I can customize the `default' face but only within
> > the minibuffer?
> >
> > My final goal would be to enlarge the minibuffer only from my program,
> > based on variables that user customizes within my software.
> 
> How about something like this:
> 
> (add-hook 'minibuffer-setup-hook (lambda () (text-scale-adjust 2)))

That is very good option, I will start using it as single user. 

Though it is very general for whole Emacs. 

I would like that users can set up the text-scale-adjust by variable,
and that minibuffer enlarges only when invoked through my
functions. Adding and removing hook during the function does not sound
nice to me. But is good for time being.

-- 
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Re: Enlarging minibuffer prompt

[Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

> Adding and removing hook during the function does not sound
> nice to me. But is good for time being.

There's `minibuffer-with-setup-hook` (which will add+remove for you).


        Stefan

Re: Enlarging minibuffer prompt

[Jean Louis]

* Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> [2024-10-24 15:28]:
> > Adding and removing hook during the function does not sound
> > nice to me. But is good for time being.
> 
> There's `minibuffer-with-setup-hook` (which will add+remove for you).

Thanks, and wow, that is now perfect solution that will work in my programs.

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RE: [External] : Enlarging minibuffer prompt

[Drew Adams]

> I would like minibuffer to be significantly larger.
> ...the text in the prompt, the actual text I am entering
> is `default' face.
> ... text I am entering in the minibuffer prompt should be
> ... some face ... customized especially for minibuffer.

FWIW, I did this long ago for my own use.  But I use a
standalone minibuffer frame, which likely isn't what you
have in mind.

My `foreground-color' value of `minibuffer-frame-alist'
is different ("Red") from that of `default-frame-alist'
("Black"): frame parameter `foreground-color'.

You can also make the font larger or smaller, using
frame parameter `font'.

My minibuffer frame also extends across the bottom of
the display.  (There are no minibuffers in other frames,
which saves space and gives me a single place to look.)

Re: [External] : Enlarging minibuffer prompt

[Jean Louis]

* Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> [2024-10-24 19:17]:
> > I would like minibuffer to be significantly larger.
> > ...the text in the prompt, the actual text I am entering
> > is `default' face.
> > ... text I am entering in the minibuffer prompt should be
> > ... some face ... customized especially for minibuffer.
> 
> FWIW, I did this long ago for my own use.  But I use a
> standalone minibuffer frame, which likely isn't what you
> have in mind.

I would like to try that idea. How to do that?

> My `foreground-color' value of `minibuffer-frame-alist'
> is different ("Red") from that of `default-frame-alist'
> ("Black"): frame parameter `foreground-color'.
> 
> You can also make the font larger or smaller, using
> frame parameter `font'.
> 
> My minibuffer frame also extends across the bottom of
> the display.  (There are no minibuffers in other frames,
> which saves space and gives me a single place to look.)

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Re: [External] : Enlarging minibuffer prompt

[Jean Louis]

Sorry, I tried oneonone.el as if that is what you mean with dedicated buffer.

Nothing worked.

Dedicated buffer was showing like full screen, and it blocked me, I could not do much, and it was switching from one screen to other screen, dedicated, but there was no "mini" buffer, that was full screen buffer with only minibuffer shown on the top.

So library as such does not work, it requires some adjustments probably.

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RE: [External] : Enlarging minibuffer prompt

[Drew Adams]

> Sorry, I tried oneonone.el as if that is what you mean with dedicated
> buffer.

To be clear, I said you might not want a
standalone minibuffer (and I didn't even
mention oneonone.el).  My msg was not to
than you alone, and it wasn't about oneonone.el.

All I said was that it's possible to use a
standalone minibuffer frame, and use frame
parameters to get larger text, differently
colored etc. for the minibuffer.

> Nothing worked.

Everything I suggested works.

And everything in oneonone.el works.  I've
used it for 25 years, and others use it too.

> Dedicated buffer was showing like full screen, and it blocked me, I
> could not do much, and it was switching from one screen to other screen,
> dedicated, but there was no "mini" buffer, that was full screen buffer
> with only minibuffer shown on the top.

Nothing you describe there makes any sense
to me.  Nothing in oneonone.el does anything
like that.

> So library as such does not work, it requires some adjustments probably.

The library as such works fine, OOTB.  Pilot
error, maybe?  I suggest you don't try to use
it, Jean. ;-)

RE: [External] : Enlarging minibuffer prompt

[Drew Adams]

> > > I would like minibuffer to be significantly larger.
> > > ...the text in the prompt, the actual text I am entering
> > > is `default' face.
> > > ... text I am entering in the minibuffer prompt should be
> > > ... some face ... customized especially for minibuffer.
> >
> > FWIW, I did this long ago for my own use.  But I use a
> > standalone minibuffer frame, which likely isn't what you
> > have in mind.
> 
> I would like to try that idea. How to do that?

Just customize `minibuffer-frame-alist'.
 
> > My `foreground-color' value of `minibuffer-frame-alist'
> > is different ("Red") from that of `default-frame-alist'
> > ("Black"): frame parameter `foreground-color'.
> >
> > You can also make the font larger or smaller, using
> > frame parameter `font'.
> >
> > My minibuffer frame also extends across the bottom of
> > the display.  (There are no minibuffers in other frames,
> > which saves space and gives me a single place to look.)

Just customize `minibuffer-frame-alist'.

Re: [External] : Enlarging minibuffer prompt

[Jean Louis]

* Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> [2024-10-24 20:52]:
> > > > I would like minibuffer to be significantly larger.
> > > > ...the text in the prompt, the actual text I am entering
> > > > is `default' face.
> > > > ... text I am entering in the minibuffer prompt should be
> > > > ... some face ... customized especially for minibuffer.
> > >
> > > FWIW, I did this long ago for my own use.  But I use a
> > > standalone minibuffer frame, which likely isn't what you
> > > have in mind.
> > 
> > I would like to try that idea. How to do that?
> 
> Just customize `minibuffer-frame-alist'.

Perhaps you express that in an enigmatic manner.

There is nothing visible in that alist allowing me to experience what
you mentioned.

Hide Minibuffer Frame Alist:
Repeat:
INS DEL Parameter: width
            Value: 80
INS DEL Parameter: height
            Value: 2
INS
    State : STANDARD.
   Alist of parameters for the initial minibuffer frame. Hide
   This is the minibuffer frame created if ‘initial-frame-alist’
   calls for a frame without a minibuffer.  The parameters specified
   here supersede those given in ‘default-frame-alist’, for the
   initial minibuffer frame.
   
   You can set this in your init file; for example,
   
    (setq minibuffer-frame-alist
          '((top . 1) (left . 1) (width . 80) (height . 2)))
   
   It is not necessary to include (minibuffer . only); that is
   appended when the minibuffer frame is created.


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RE: [External] : Enlarging minibuffer prompt

[Drew Adams]

> > Just customize `minibuffer-frame-alist'.
> 
> Perhaps you express that in an enigmatic manner.
> 
> There is nothing visible in that alist allowing me to experience what
> you mentioned.
> 
> Hide Minibuffer Frame Alist:
> Repeat:
> INS DEL Parameter: width
>             Value: 80
> INS DEL Parameter: height
>             Value: 2
> INS
>     State : STANDARD.
>    Alist of parameters for the initial minibuffer frame. Hide
>    This is the minibuffer frame created if ‘initial-frame-alist’
>    calls for a frame without a minibuffer.  The parameters specified
>    here supersede those given in ‘default-frame-alist’, for the
>    initial minibuffer frame.
> 
>    You can set this in your init file; for example,
> 
>     (setq minibuffer-frame-alist
>           '((top . 1) (left . 1) (width . 80) (height . 2)))
> 
>    It is not necessary to include (minibuffer . only); that is
>    appended when the minibuffer frame is created.

Take a look at node "Font and Color Parameters" in
the Elisp manual:

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Font-and-Color-Parameters.html

For more info about frame parameters, start at
node "Frame Parameters":

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Frame-Parameters.html