From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: RE: My emacs was upgraded and I am a novice again Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:10:07 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190825020 10006 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2007 16:43:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:43:40 +0000 (UTC) To: "Eli Zaretskii" , Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 26 18:43:35 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IaZyl-0002sz-RK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:43:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IaZyi-0007bz-KC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:43:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IaZyS-0007aF-Ay for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:42:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IaZyQ-0007Yw-Lr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:42:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IaZyQ-0007Yt-Dp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:42:54 -0400 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IaZTc-0006kY-Hc; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:11:05 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id l8QGAuaU019054; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:10:56 -0600 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id l8Q6x5wv013312; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:10:55 -0600 Original-Received: from dhcp-4op11-4op12-west-130-35-178-158.us.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3245942021190823007; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:10:07 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 In-reply-to: X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:47882 Archived-At: > > Vanilla Emacs help is very good; no question about it. That > > does not mean that it is always easy to find everything, or > > that improvements cannot be made. > > It is my firm belief that any significant improvements to Emacs help > system should be part of Emacs. If you don't think so, we will have > to agree to disagree. I agree, they should.